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Ariadne
13:01 / 02.10.03
Does anyone here buy glossy magazines aimed at women?

I used to like them when I was a teenager but now they just frustrate/ bore/ infuriate me AND make me feel fat, ill-dressed and weird, while feeling annoyed at myself for falling for their nonsense. All that in one visit to a hairdressers*.

So, do you read them? Which ones? Why?

*cause that's where I usually see them
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
13:20 / 02.10.03
I like the odd crap magazine. I usually buy Elle, just because I think if I'm going to read a crap magazine about clothes I might as well buy the most vapid, fashion-oriented periodical on the market (and it's not quite as full of ghastly people as Vogue). But I am starting to find it too vapid (if such a thing is possible). I sometimes buy Glamour but the fashion doesn't look as good in the handbag format, and it's full of irritating advice on what to do with 'your man' (my least favourite phrase of all time, second only to 'hearts and minds').

I used to buy The Face all the time but started to find that it wasn't carrying many features that I wanted to read.

Apart from that, Private Eye, and occasionally the TLS.

There have been, have there not, a couple of women's magazines which attempted to up their intellectual content - Frank was one, and I think the relaunched Nova wasn't too bad either. But none of them lasted very long - perhaps there just isn't a market for a more intelligent glossy, because people get their intellectual kicks elsewhere.
 
 
suds
13:22 / 02.10.03
i am addicted to teen magazines, especially elle girl (us edition) & seventeen. however, lately i have been buying vogue.

before, i was always kind of against vogue because it was filled with very thin models & also contained articles on stuff i just wasn't interested in such as style. but more recently (since i stopped being a student & started earning money!) i started becoming interested in fashion.

i bought vogue for the first time in april this year, because i had to work a long saturday and wanted to read something. i really enjoyed the beautiful pictures and how elegant all the models are. & it's just escapism for when i am bored at work. my friends at work also like vogue because of all the beautiful pictures. i also like the layout and the books section.

one magazine i really hate is cosmopolitan. my friend gets it & just flicking through it makes me feel just like you said, ariadne, "fat, ill-dressed and weird". the thing that *really* bothers me about cosmopolitan is that it's all about how to please your man, and what men think of different body shapes and i couldn't care less about a man's approval and it's just dumb.
 
 
suds
13:24 / 02.10.03
oh yeah, i should say that my very favourite womens magazine which happens to be run by very cool feminists is BUST. even though it was better a couple of years ago, it's really good!
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:26 / 02.10.03
I usually buy Vogue's International Collections Issue and occasionally The Face. Mostly I do so to keep up with the clothes but I also like the style of interview in both magazines. Vogue really is the best fashion magazine, I know a lot of people who whine incessantly about the amount of adverts but frankly that's toss because they tell you as much about fashion as the rest of the magazine's content. If I feel a bit ill I go all out and pop in to Heat land because sick as it may be it's very entertaining.
 
 
Sax
13:34 / 02.10.03
One of the major differences between men's and women's mags is that while women's mags promote an unattainable female ideal of comfortably fitting into size eight dresses, men's mags celebrate beer bellies and slobbiness, to some extent.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:43 / 02.10.03
note Sax isn't telling us whether he's a Cosmo girl or a Vogue princess.

Only tend to read womens' mags in waiting rooms/hairdressers.... There's hardly ever anything I'm interested in in them, and i find them pretty infuriating. Throughout my teens was an addict: the J17/More>>>Cosmo/Elle/Marie-Claire progression.

Have read the odd Nova, (is it still going) which seemed much better than most...

Don't really buy mags...If I'm going to buy 'womens' mags it's Bust, or Bitch if i can get it, which rool. Otherwise, very occasionally D&C, Elle Deco, The Wire...
 
 
Sax
13:47 / 02.10.03
Marie Claire definitely. Cosmo makes me blush.
 
 
Cat Chant
13:58 / 02.10.03
I don't read the glossies, I read the stapled-together weeklies (Chat, Take a Break and that's life!). I've been reading them regularly for about ten years now. Partly, I think, because I enjoy reading as an 'eavesdropper' - I like reading stuff that's aimed at people-not-like-me, because stuff that's aimed at people-like-me just makes furious with its misaddress. And partly because I love true-life stories. I love seeing people who have the ability to narrativize their lives, because God knows I can't do it.
 
 
pomegranate
14:15 / 02.10.03
the lamest thing about cosmo is the sex tips. they're "great" "ideas" like: 43. leave the lights on sometime when you're having sex! 68. stroke his balls while you go down on him!
thanks, i hadn't figured that stuff out by the time i was 18 or anything.
british cosmo is way more *naughty*, just like you brits.
and bust is good but bitch is excellent!!
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:18 / 02.10.03
well well, just popped back as i'd remembered Take a Break,which i will buy for a journey. okay, if i had more disposable cash i'd get a subscription(which i bet is impossible.)

I'm addicted to the handy hints.
 
 
Sax
14:23 / 02.10.03
And partly because I love true-life stories. I love seeing people who have the ability to narrativize their lives, because God knows I can't do it.

Although of course it won't be actually done by Maureen who has had eight children all by different sailors in Hull. Maureen will have spoken to a journalist, usually from an agency, who will have been paid about £750 for turning her ramblings into heart-wrenching copy, while Maureen herself will get about £250 for baring her soul.
 
 
MissLenore
15:32 / 02.10.03
I'm an absolute addict when it comes to fashion magazines. I will read any of them, but my favourites tend to be Elle, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, and Cosmo. I'm not entirely sure WHY I love to read those types of magazines, since most of the time the articles aren't all that interesting, or just outright offensive (as in how EVERY article in Cosmo is about "how to please your man"). Nonetheless, I love the fashion, and I love makeup. It's a very guilty pleasure of mine.
 
 
Saveloy
15:40 / 02.10.03
Sax:

"while Maureen herself will get about £250 for baring her soul."

It's true. I had a mate who was actually in one of those stories (in Take a Break, I think): "He Left His Wife - For Another Man!" I don't think he even got that much. I'm a Titbits man, myself.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
16:36 / 02.10.03
I've always been far more interested in the girly magazines than the gentlemen's magazines--I'd rather eavesdrop on the women than read about stereotypically male interests that I don't have. Bust and Jane are the ones I flip through whenever I see them, but I'm not above looking at the more vanilla ones when there's a long line at the checkout.
 
 
Catjerome
17:02 / 02.10.03
I used to be more interested in them than I currently am. I'm always on the lookout for general fashion advice, but the current crop of fashion advice is usually just advertising disguised as tips: "For brightening up your look, we recommend plum eyeshadow: L'OREAL REAL EGGPLANT $20."

Plus I wish they'd shake things up a bit! There are only so many times that I can read combinations of the same set of "5 Sex Tips to Drive Him Wild", "3 Things to Do With Your Hair", and "4 Things You Should Know about Your Health". I'd love to read something new. This is part of why I gave up on them. I just get bored.

That being said, I still do like to read them occasionally, especially for mindless escapism stress relief like on airplanes.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
20:06 / 02.10.03
Owning a salon, I do buy a fair few mags. I never have time to read them other than over the shoulders of my engrossed clients. It`s weird to me that although I buy beautiful mags like Fashionline and Vougue and Harper`s and Vanity Fair, the ones the clients bring in themselves are always Hello or Goodbye or whatever the tabloids are called. I cannot understand the British thing of loving to read all about the boring lives of tv presenters and soccer stars. I think I will take the ridiculously stunning fashion victims every time. Even if it is brain rot tat, at least the pretty mags are visually gratifying.
 
 
Cat Chant
20:46 / 02.10.03
Saveloy - your mate wuz robbed! Chat pays up to five hundred quid (though that fee is usually for two-page stories involving a death, actually: He Left His Wife For Another Man sounds more like a one-third-of-a-page story to me, so maybe he wasn't robbed after all. Just ignore me.)
 
 
mondo a-go-go
21:17 / 02.10.03
I used to like Jane, which I only read occasionally, since it's not available in the UK, at least until one of their summer issues this year where they advocated not telling your lover if you'd contracted an STD, because, like, the mystery is cooool, man. Which is annoying, because of the mainstream women's magazines I've come across, they had much sassier journalists than any of the British ones, and they were culturally much more where I was at than any of the British ones, in terms of music and films etc.

Bust and Bitch tend to be good, but not what I consider glossy women's magazines.

Laurenn McCubbin (who does porn comics, if you're wondering) recently said on another message board I hang out at that she wants a women's version of Adbusters. That's what I want to see, too.

In the meantime, I'll probably just read New Scientist and comics when I'm travelling.
 
 
telyn
21:24 / 02.10.03
I occasionally buy fashion mags, and would gravitate towards Vogue because I like reading about high fashion/couture. Unfortunately the magazine I have probably read most (because it was lying around) is Prima. mmmm. Perhaps the most formulaic mag in the world? My ma used to buy it (perhaps as a verbal comfort blanket. It's the literary equivalent of a cup of horlicks) and I would flick through to see if there was anything interesting. A similar format to cosmo / marie claire except minus the sex, added stuff for being a good housewife / mum / saving all the time in the world and not doing the dishes at midnight. I don't think I've ever read anything less controversial. eurgh. not recommended, unless you really like horlicks.
 
 
Persephone
01:16 / 03.10.03
Jane bugged me. I kind of thought that it reeked of false consciousness --i.e., all the same old "women's issues" were moving their slow thighs behind the curtain. Please, I read women's magazines to tell me that I'm fat and to tell it to me straight.

But then I subscribe to Real Simple... have I ever told you my Real Simple story? It's a good story, I'll tell it again: because, you know, Real Simple is the anti-guilt, anti-Martha magazine? So at Christmas, they run an article about how sugar cookies that you can make from those pop-open cans are just as good as made from scratch. Followed by five pages of instructions of how to cut out little cookie men and women, and frost on little red pants and skirts.

When I have to fly places, I get In Style People, Vogue, or Bazaar... this is kind of a new thing, this little place in my head just opened up for fashion.

I grew up reading Ladies' Home Journal.
 
 
pomegranate
15:08 / 03.10.03
there's something about flying or going on a long train trip that makes me compelled to buy a shitty women's mag. it just works. i buy glamour, marie claire, or cosmo, sometimes jane but i hate how fake it is, yeah the others suck but they don't front like they're 'real' or whatev. nor do they do as much over the top celebrity ass kissing.
 
 
Saveloy
15:41 / 06.10.03
Deva:
"Saveloy - your mate wuz robbed! Chat pays up to five hundred quid (though that fee is usually for two-page stories involving a death, actually: He Left His Wife For Another Man sounds more like a one-third-of-a-page story to me, so maybe he wasn't robbed after all. Just ignore me.)"

Man, I'm pretty sure it was a three page story! But now I think about it, my mate wasn't the main player. The actual story was 'My Husband Left Me - For ANOTHER MAN!' and he was the OTHER MAN. So the ex-wife was the teller (and seller) of the story, which means he was lucky to get anything at all, I suppose.
 
 
Cat Chant
15:55 / 06.10.03
Having said which, a friend's relatives recently sold "My Husband Left Me - For My Twin Sister!" and both I and the twin sister got five hundred quid (each)...

but anyway, that wasn't quite what I meant when I said I liked seeing people narrativize their lives. I do know that the true-life protagonist doesn't write the copy (otherwise it would be terrifying that every single person in Britain has the same prose style), but you have to be able to fill in a form showing that your story has a beginning, a middle and an end in order to apply to sell your story. And you have to be able to think of your life as a story that makes sense to other people before you can sell it. I like that. It makes a change from the nebulous, unintelligible symptoms - or stories understood from so many points of view that they explode into meaninglessness - that characterize my life. (My Best Friend Hates Me Because I'm A Lesbian - or does she? Is that really why? Isn't it more complicated than that? Maybe her take on the situation is more valid than mine... etc etc. I wish I had my own Chat journalist to follow me round and force my experiences into the very limited forms available in the true-life story genre...)
 
 
Sax
08:28 / 07.10.03
Perhaps we should all keep a Chat Diary - at the end of every day write up your experiences in the magazine format and give it an appropriate headline: "I was late for work - because THE BUS FAILED TO COME."
 
 
Scrubb is on a downward spiral
08:46 / 07.10.03
I adore Take a Break and that's life. A girl from my home town got into one of them because she had terrible period pains; that was in the health pages though which don't have the glamour and cash of the main "Love Rat of Lancaster" story section. I think it is the uniform prose style as much as anything else: betrayed women "roar", lying husbands "flinch", and "time passes".

The Australian Women's Weekly rocks too. Loads of recipes, amusing stories, mentalist middle age woman fashion spreads and interviews with Australian demi-celebrities.
 
 
Cat Chant
09:23 / 07.10.03
Actually, the health pages are pretty cool - I seem to know more about a wider variety of illnesses/operations than most of my friends (unperforated hymen, anyone?). And the Australian that's life! is an excellent magazine, though it doesn't replicate its UK sister's bold use of two-word sentences with striking verbs ("I had slept with my sister's husband. Guilt throbbed." "My son was dead. Grief gnawed.")

I once had 'letter of the week' in that's life. And a letter in Chat. Which reminds me I must send in a photo to the TaB 'Boot Sale Tales', which strike me as money for old rope: you send in a picture of something and claim you bought it at a boot sale, make up an amusing anecdote about it, and they give you fifty quid!
 
 
Scrubb is on a downward spiral
10:23 / 07.10.03
Deva, what was your letter of the week about? I am struck dumb with envy.

The Boot Sale Tale sounds like easy cash, but I'm saving my efforts for my genius "Thrifty Tips" (£50 with photo) which I am keeping top secret until I get published and TaB pay up.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
14:46 / 07.10.03
I am absolutely ADDICTED to magazines and have been since I learned how to read basically (when I would steal mom's). When I was growing up U.S. edition of Glamour was EXCELLENT - really thought-provoking articles, I'm not kidding! But then the old editor retired, and they brought in Bonnie Fuller (she of Marie Claire, then Cosmo) and it's never been the same.

When we're talking any women's mags, they must have at least a few articles, otherwise I'm really not interested. Vogue and Elle and the like bore me because they're basically all fashion, which just isn't interesting enough for me (no offense at all to the fashionistas out there!). In the states now I like Marie-Claire and possibly Cosmo (but actually I usually end up getting angry at Cosmo) and of course the Weekly World News and Entertainment Weekly.

I've never really liked Jane, though their articles are good, mainly because they seem so look at us we live in New York pretentious.

Here in the UK I LOVE Chat and Take A Break! Love!

Anyway must go have just gotten yelled at for internet usage...
 
 
Cat Chant
18:34 / 07.10.03
My letter of the week claimed that both myself and my boyfriend had unusual first names (I chose "Aneurin" for him, and used my own for me [I have a bizarre, slightly-Polish-but-not-really first name). It went, in part:

"While we are both proud of our heritage, blank looks and requests for spelling make introductions an ordeal. Our first child is due next month. We're calling her Jane!"

Someone had to draw a cartoon based on that. I felt very powerful, somehow. I didn't keep it, though.
 
 
gravitybitch
05:06 / 08.10.03
I get tons of guilty pleasure from Elle and Vogue and W.... I'll pick up an issue of each a couple of times a year just to look at the clothes, then drop them off in the lunch-room at work and eavesdrop on the conversations that are sure to follow.

Bust and Bitch are both wonderful, and I tend to keep them rather than donating them to work... (can't stand Claire or Jane or Seventeen or Cosmo... they all make my skin crawl!)
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
06:12 / 08.10.03
And the Australian that's life! is an excellent magazine, though it doesn't replicate its UK sister's bold use of two-word sentences with striking verbs ("I had slept with my sister's husband. Guilt throbbed." "My son was dead. Grief gnawed.")

It's an odd thing - so much of that magazine is imported from the UK (the staff, largely, up until a while ago) - but some stuff, like that form of headline writing, just doesn't work. Don't know why. I recall some of the launch issues (my family was very involved in the launch/running of the mag) may've had some of that, but it's a very customer-driven kinda thing - if something doesn't work, it's yanked, sharpish. Although come to think of it, I have seen the strong verb/two word thing used as a bold lead which then tapers into a headline in a much smaller font...

I've worked around magazines for years, and my family has worked around them for years, so I've always read them. Anything. Had steady diet of Cosmo, Cleo, Dolly, Girlfriend, Woman's Day, New Idea, whatever you like. They're all enjoyable in certain ways - though it's not 'til you work at them that you realise exactly how targeted they are, how much of an exact science providing what the reader wants is.

After a stint of answering mail for a teen girls' magazine, I can tell you the top two questions that pop up, at least via e-mail:

1) How do I give a blow-job?
2) I recently [describe unsafe sex]. Now, I've missed [insert number] period(s). Could I be pregnant?

Overwhelmingly. And are either of those ever going to be answered?

Not on your fucking life.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
09:30 / 08.10.03
When I was reading teenage girl's magazines, the best problem page EVER had the question, "I've never kissed a boy, how do I do that?". The answer? "Practise on the back of your hand, dear, it feels about the same." I always wondered whether it was that journalist's last day at their job...

I hardly ever read women's magazines now, although when I do it's either Marie Claire or Cosmopolitan -more out of habit than anything else, but there's normally something interesting in one of them.
 
 
Ariadne
09:56 / 08.10.03
I remember reading the 'kiss your hand' thing too! What silly advice. Though I don't know what else you could suggest. "Ask your Dad to show you".
Usually I think they just wimped out and said it would come naturally when the time came. Which is no blooming use at all when you're 13 and puzzled.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:09 / 08.10.03
I don't understand why the teen mags always have a "most embarrassing moments" page. What's up with that?
 
  

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