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Nemesis

Spyder Todd 2008

00:37 / 23.09.03

I happen to be a fan of Nemesis. And since I work with a lot of Greek deities (mostly Aphridite and Hermes) I figure I might start setting up relations with Nemesis as well. So, who has advice, who thinks I'm stupid and who wants to be my new best friend?

Shanghai Quasar

01:25 / 23.09.03

If you want to be quashed for arrogantly going against the natural order of things, Nemesis would be the way to go.

That is to say, I would hope that you're certain that Mademoiselle Vengeance doesn't think a haughty magic(k)ian contacting her, for assistance or otherwise, could be seen as somehow insolent and against the natural order of things.

Quantum

09:04 / 23.09.03

So not the alien freedom fighter from 2000AD then?

Seriously, invoking your own nemesis has got to be a little foolish don't you think? I mean, good luck and all, but won't you just end up with an archvillain pestering you? Or worse, an heroic do-gooder denouncing your evil ways...

Less searchable M0rd4nt

09:43 / 23.09.03

It would depend, I suppose, on what you planned to do. If you intend to petition Nemesis for aid in getting some kind of revenge against a person or persons, then you'd be well-advised to make damn sure you've got a watertight case. This sort of thing has a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the the arse.

Tryphena Absent

11:57 / 23.09.03

You could just say hi but make sure you've got someone else to pull you out who's equally as strong and remember there aren't many.

illmatic

12:23 / 23.09.03

Goddamn, I was reading something about Nemesis last week and I can;t remember what it was. If I find it, I'll post it. Sister of Hubris, (waiting for Haus to come and correct my classical errors) anyhow - I think whatever-it-was-I-was-reading indicated she was worshipped by Roman soliders as a Goddess of Just Causes.

Ah, I've remembered!!

Nemesis and Other Essays by Stephen Mace.

The West is old, doddering, burdened with karma and
yet smugly self-satisfied, even arrogant. Where else
could Nemesis be, but right behind its back? This
essay examines Nemesis' mythic origin and relates
her special impetus to the historical morphology
Oswald Spengler offers in his Decline of the West.
Not being a conservative German patriot writing
between the years 1911 and 1922, I need not be
such a pessimist as he, but once you remove the
bitter seasoning, his predictions are uncanny,
enlightening, and contain heavy sorcerous implications

Spyder Todd 2008

12:28 / 23.09.03

No, no, I'm not trying to summon my nemesis. Sort of what Anna said is whatI'm going for; I want to say hi to Nemesis, let her know I'm on her side, and apease her. I'm not trying to get back at someone, I justwant to make a new celestial friend. And I'd much rather have Nemesis like me then dislike me.

illmatic

14:03 / 23.09.03

Perhaps the best thing you could do is keep an eye for hubris then? I dunno - I was wondering some sort of Nemesis work might be interesting, kind of like Jung's idea of "the shadow". You'd have to look into her cult and see how she was worshipped and what meanings she held for her worshippers I suppose.

Anyway this essay gives another angle and makes some links between between the Cthulhu Mythos entity Nyarlothep and Nemesis.

cusm

14:16 / 23.09.03

In other words, give her an offering.

Note here that in doing so, you attract her attention. Gods don't just sit around having tea, they want to fulfill their station. So, an active Nemesis on your side means something is likely to happen which will require her to be on your side so she can fulfill the debt owed you from the offering. Even if you offer to her for the purpose of being on your side in a hypothetical future dispute, you in effect are magicking that future dispute into happening in the first place.

You've gotta be careful with the dark ones. Its not like asking for love or good fortune. Nemesis is a reactive force. If there's nothing for her to react to, something will come along to rectify that.

It might just be better to research what she would like as an offering, just in case you ever have need to give one. That way, you are prepared, like a good magickian should be

Tryphena Absent

14:29 / 23.09.03

I know it's a personal question but I'm wondering how long you've been practising and more specifically if you've asked down one of the old, dark ladies before? The first time you do it it's very intense and it might be better to start with someone else- Kali because she'll give you what you need rather than seek (she was my first

). Hecate if you need some direction. The thing about Nemesis is that she's so in to what other people do to you and your reaction that you can't help but effect other people by calling on her. She doesn't care if it's to your advantage or not. So even when saying hello you're taking a risk that might be needless.

Spyder Todd 2008

15:19 / 23.09.03

Hmm.... good thoughts, all of you. Well, I've been being talked to by gods and goddess for over a year now. I used to work with Kali all the time, but we have a more passive relationship these days. I've talked with the Ladies, however. Back during the 3/3/3 thing in March. Not fun, but neccisary. I think I'll go with cusm for the moment, always being prepared and such. So, if anyone else has ideas, feel free to post them. I could always use more info.

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