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Finally finished the Invisibles

 
 
Krug
03:26 / 21.09.03
Thank God for that.

It's a first read and I wish I had the time to give it a second read and then jump into "Anarchy for the Masses" but I'll jump into that tomorrow.

It's definitely the most ambitious and inventive comic book series of all time and the most refreshing and intellectually stimulating and challenging work that comics can ever hope to have.

But I'm a bit disappointed.
I'm sure a second reading will make me like the series a lot more but I personally feel that Grant's best work is in Volume 1. I'd been told that he "dumbed" the series down in Volume 2 and then returned to form in 3 but as mad and crammed Volume 3 seems, it has none of the charm and magic of the stories in Say you want a revolution and Apocalipstick.

Say you want a revolution would tower above all the rest of the trades if not for Best Man Fall, Royal Monsters in book 2 and Entropy in the UK in Entropy in the UK.

For me, Best Man Fall is right up there with St. Swithin's Day and the last animal man story as Grant's best. Why doesn't he concentrate on characters this often? Sure we love him for his ideas but I wish he'd create a better balance. I'm pleased to hear he's going the "heartbreaking route" now.

Volume 2 felt lethargic compared to Volume 1 and Grant was being a little to careful not to lose the reader or maybe that's an excuse I'm making up after hearing what happened to the readership after Arcadia.

The ending was great but all of that was spoiled for me much like Animal Man. I'm pretty sure I'd be less disappointed if a bunch of fuckers hadn't spoiled so much.

My favourite character was Mad Tom.
As brilliant as blurring the lines between good guys and bad guys was, I started caring less and less for the Invisibles during Counting to None.

And let's admit it, Jolly Roger is the worst single character in the series and it's only then Morrison really jumped the shark.

King Mob was the only one who I began to care for more near the end and finally started liking while I couldn't care for the rest of the cast as the story drew to a close.

I really want to read Doom Patrol right now.

Am too poor to buy the singles and I hear the entire series has been scanned but I didn't want to read scans of Invisibles and Doom Patrol seems to be nearly as good so I'd rather read it in print.

What changes exactly have been made to the first trade?
I've read the first four issues and around five random issues in the series from a friend a year ago and liked them very much.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
06:12 / 21.09.03
Although he did admit that 'Arcadia' was a mistake that almost killed the book, I don't think it's true to say that he dumbed down for volume 2, after all, that was over a year later. However, the style he close for volume 2, the 'Hollywood' all guns and glamour, was supposed to look like it was dumbed down, to contrast with what happens about 8 months in, when it starts getting really dense. In volume 3 they move back to England and the style returns to that Wicker Man/Sweeny/Edge of Darkness riff. I would have preferred it if they'd moved to India and the last volume was done Bollywood style, but that's just me...

As for Jolly Roger, the justification used round here is usually that all the characters are stereotypes, the supercool assassin, the tearaway with the heart of gold, the superglam tranny tart and the ballbreaking dyke is just an addition to that. It's not a justification I go along with as everyone but her (and Jim Crow) do get to break out of their roles here and there but then at least she wasn't in because the story had to be wrapped up some 14 issues earlier than first intended.

It was a remarkable achievement, it doesn't read like a team book (a la X-Men or Doom Patrol), but as though there was one central character around who the rest revolve, you can read it as Fanny's Story, Gideon's Tale, Robin: From Here to Eternity... Not quite to the thirty-something characters promised in King Mob's Invisibles game in the last issue, but then the technology isn't there yet.

Doom Patrol, as I understand it it's only two or three pages taken from the last issue in the Trade that set things up for the next storyline, which has the first appearence of the Brotherhood of Dada.
 
 
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15:18 / 21.09.03
I always liked Jolly Roger, stereotype or not. She got some great lines and she just looked cool.
 
 
Krug
22:48 / 21.09.03
Jim Crow was just annoying until the "I am become death" scene in Volume 2.
Just when you think Morrison is going to shove a cliche in your face and then say "I'm sorry I know it's a cliche" he gives you a page like that.
So does Doom Patrol have similar themes? From what I've read it reads more like a team book.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
14:18 / 22.09.03
My webpage has the missing doom patrol pages, and also some Invisibles stuff.
 
 
eric minutes
22:46 / 22.09.03
You really should give it another go.....theres so much that starts to click when you read the series again....and so many brilliant bits that just make the whole thing shine!
 
 
bob
09:16 / 28.09.03
Yeah, I too was a bit let down. Big deal. It is a nice collage of many borrowed ideas put together in startling new ways, but the point of the end was a...erm.

If you already were Invisible it couldn't cum as any blank revelation. My dog Spot saw it coming becuase he fetches much slack.

But some of those Doom Patrols are pure genius. I wish I hadn't sold mine now. Shucks.
 
 
Krug
08:37 / 01.10.03
The real problem was that Morrison didn't write more one than one heartbreaking and deeply emotional story in the sixty something issues which miffed me.

There should've been more stuff like Best Man Fall. I was counting on it.
 
 
bob
09:36 / 01.10.03
Yeah. That issue does stand out. Hard for it not to. Brilliant use of the change-up cut-up story time line device.

A few more like that would have made the whole hyper-sigil story more inclusive to humans in general and not so focused on action heroes and villans.

But wait! Maybe there's something to this? Like, if you are just a "human in general" and not a "person in action" you are not Invisible...

What is difficult at moments like this is deciding whether Grant is a genius or we are, if you know what I mean?
 
 
Bastard Tweed
07:57 / 06.10.03
Personally, I was trying to decide if I was putting him on or he was putting me on.
 
  
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