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that
23:45 / 02.09.03
Apologies to Persephone for stealing and warping her question to Duncan Falconer, but: If you could meet, say, 5 fictional characters (from literature, tv, film, myth, comics, etc.), which ones would you choose? How would you spend time with them? Would it be a one off meeting, or would you like to become friends/whatever with them (not that they'd necessarily feel the same way, of course. How crushing that would be?)? Would you want them to become real and hang around afterwards (whether or not you ever had any contact with them again), or would you want them to disappear back into the medium from whence they came after you'd had a chat/gone ice skating/played poker?

I'll answer at some point. Mine keeps turning into 'fictional characters I'd shag if I had the chance' (like any of them would have me, even if they *weren't* figments of someone else's imagination), which is fair enough, but I'd like to avoid making that the one theme of my list. I tend to get crushes on my favourite characters (or my favourite characters are ones I've got crushes on) though, so it might be unavoidable. Either way, Snape is on the list.

Anyway - away you go.
 
 
that
00:12 / 03.09.03
Oh yeah - and why those characters in particular, of course? And what do you think your time together/friendship (or whatever) would be like?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
09:05 / 03.09.03
Chrestomanci because he's so interesting, marvellous and clearly has impeccable dress sense. I'd also like to chat to him about his job which is clearly the most fascinating employment in the universe(s).

She Ra... what's it like to a woman in man's sword wielding world? Does it annoy her that she's being presented as a sex symbol and not a fighter?

G'Kar from Babylon 5. He's like everyone's favourite grandfather and I bet he'd buy me some Werther's Originals. I'd like to talk to him about his violent background and how it feels to come from a country that's been so suppressed. Plus he has a wicked sense of humour.

I'll add my other two in a while. I'm running out and I need to do some work!
 
 
Sax
09:15 / 03.09.03
Jenny Everywhere, of course. Yum.
 
 
Sax
09:37 / 03.09.03
In a non-sexual gender-of-creator-unrelated-to-gender-of-character sense, obviously.
 
 
Cat Chant
10:49 / 03.09.03
Cat Chant. I think Gair (Power of Three) is more the quintessence of DWJ Boy, but I don't need to meet him because he's a quintessence, if you see what I mean: and though I would love to be around Chrestomanci, he too is sort of complete in himself as a force of nature, so I'd rather spend the time talking to Cat about how he deals with his position in his family, how he's coming to terms with being a baby butch when his predecessor is such a femme, and how his relationship with Tonino is affecting the way he feels about Janet stealing his magic. (Basically, that is, his headfucks are really similar to mine: also, I worry about him and want to make sure he's okay). I see this as a continuing relationship - he can travel between worlds so the hows & whens are fairly easy to sort out. (Plus, of course, if I get invited to Chrestomanci Castle I might catch a glimpse of a certain person sweeping past in a dressing-gown...)

Deva, natch. After a bit of confusion over nomenclature, we'd get on like a house on fire, bonding over being a dull ginger bureaucrat for the revolution, bitching about Mr I'm-So-Pale-And-Interesting Kerr Avon (bignosebastard@knowitall.com), and perving over Blake. Plus he can tell me all the gossip about how the revolution's going and fill in some of the gaps that Terry Nation & Chris Boucher left in canon. We would drink beer in the barracks bar on Gauda Prime.

Still thinking about the other three. I'm quite tempted by the idea of meeting little Harry, but I'd have to work out whose version I'd want to spend time with: my instinct is to say "mine" but I think I'd just be daunted by his precocious coolness and insane rage and run away squeaking. JKR's is too boring, the film version, while terribly, terribly pretty, is even more boring, and a lot of the slash Harrys I've met are pretty sketchily characterized.

Ooh! Dennis Cooper - the one that appears as narrator in Guide & Frisk etc, that is. Though he seems to be really into music and I'm not at all, so that might be a difficult friendship to get going.

This is a really interesting question. A lot of my favourite fictional characters aren't coming up, either because they're already integrated into the borg collective that is my head (eg Jeff from Cynthia Voigt's A Solitary Blue), or because they're much more fun to watch than to interact with (Jareth from Labyrinth, Avon, etc). Will consider my last two carefully - Blake is a possibility because I'm currently trying to unleash my Inner Blake, so spending time around him would be helpful... Ooh, ooh, or maybe some people from the Marlow books. Mmmm. Jan Scott. Mmmmmmm. Rowan Marlow - she could lean against a wall and drawl at me - or Tim Keith who could, um, lean against a wall and say sarcastic things to me. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:03 / 03.09.03
(I love Jeff from Solitary Blue. I would like to see his eyes, they sound marvellous.)
 
 
Cat Chant
11:09 / 03.09.03
(Anna, are you me?)
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:17 / 03.09.03
(I don't think so.)
 
 
Ma'at
11:30 / 03.09.03
*Methos* from Highlander the TV Series. For many reasons some of which aren't actually of a carnal nature before Jack The Bodiless or Cass or C Elsewhere chime in with anything smart!

...actually all 4 HOrsemen of the Apocalypse form Highlander would be rather wonderful...

*Lyra* and *Will* from Philip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy because they are both so very real.

*Sebastian Flyte* from 'Brideshead Revisted' by Evelyn Waugh - he broke my heart!

*Silk* from 'The Belgariad' series by David Eddings - a childhood crush

*Lestat* from 'The Vampire Chronicles' by Anne Rice - yes I know what your all thinking but I'd still like to meet him, he sounds like a lot of fun and I could get him to show me and Cass round New Orleans!

*Qui Gon Jinn* and *Obi Wan Kenobi* - Jedi and very cute and like Duuuude!

*Jack Sparrow* - do I have to explain that one?

*Bud White* from 'LA Confidential' by James Ellroy - *whimper*

*Galadriel* from The Lord of the Rings by Tolkien - possibly one of the first fictional women I fell in love with.

*Rachel Summers* (Phoenix II), *Longshot*, *Nightcrawler*, *Gambit*, *Wolverine*, *Rogue*, *Storm* and *Lockheed* from The X-men - longstanding love affairs from childhood

*Morpheus*, *Death* *Desire* and *Goldie* from The Sandman - longstanding love affairs from adolescence

*John Constantine* - swoon, spangle, wibble. The Man. I love him.

*Nemesis The Warlock*, all the *ABC Warriors* but especially *Joe Pineapples*, *Slaine* and *Judge Dredd* from 2000 AD - again do I need to explain why? Although I'd have to fight Ms Spooky for Nemesis.

*Kai* and *Zev* from Lexx - because I fancy both of them something rotten!

*Misato Katsuragi*, *Kaji Ryoji* and *Asuka Langley Soryu* from Neon Genesis Evangelion - thanks to Set for the new obsession!



...and I'm going to stop now before this gets out of hand. Apologies for not being very highbrow or intellectual but I'm mostly ruled by my hormones.
 
 
Persephone
11:46 / 03.09.03
You know what I want? Not a person, but I want Xavier's telepathic conference room. Recently I've taken to visualizing myself in that room. Those comfy couches and all surrounded by blue and chalk writing. I think it would be cool in there, like night. It would be so great for meeting people and hanging out. And you could just talk. Or when you laughed, people would hear you & you wouldn't have to get up to type LOL. It's very slow to always have to put everything in writing.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:50 / 03.09.03
My fourth is Sayuri from Memoirs of a Geisha because I would love to talk about the strict rules that surrounded clothing in Japan over the length of the novel. I find this era remarkable and the character is absolutely lovely. It also seems to me that there are some remarkable similarities between British and Japanese culture that I'd like to discuss.
 
 
that
12:47 / 03.09.03
Yeah, it *is* an interesting question - because, do you choose someone who you admire? Someone you like and think would like you? Someone who'd teach you something? Or even just someone who'd teach you something about canon? Do you pick someone dangerous but interesting, or someone that you could safely let roam the world afterwards?

I think it'd be interesting to introduce the canon version and a good slash version of a character, and I was tempted to work that into my choices, but didn't in the end. There are certain slash versions of characters that I love, but they're almost certainly more interesting to watch in their natural environment. Though if they'd let me watch for real...well. (Or join in...)

I was quite convinced that most of my possible choices wouldn't like me at all...but, who knows? Also, I feel weird about mythological/legendary characters, because there's always the sense they might've existed in one way or another, so I've left them alone. There are lots of characters I'd like to say hi to (or huggle - there are an awful lot of characters I'd like to huggle, from the Iliad to Red Dwarf), but, like Deva says, some of them are much more interesting just to watch. Anyway...the ones in bold are my choices, the others are just thoughts.

Severus Snape. I'd like to give him a hug and tell him I think he's lovely, and a good person, whatever those little Gryffindor brats think. For a JKR character, he's quite human, but I'd like to get a better sense of him and how he feels about various things. Though I wouldn't pester him with it, I'd also try and find out some of the stuff that JKR is unlikely to ever tell us - like, Remus and Sirius = a couple, right? (though I still have some hope that she'll make that explicit - I think it's already clear enough from certain details in OotP, but hardly anyone else I know seems to have noticed). And, if he didn't mind the prying, I'd love to know about his own love life.

I dunno if he'd like me much though, which would be awfully upsetting. However, Snape is definitely on the shag list, so if he felt like it, he'd be more than welcome. (Quite a few other people on the shag list I think are far better off sleeping with their fellow characters, however.)

I'd like to give Sirius a hug, too.

Alec from Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner, possibly. It might be an odd reason to want to meet him, but Alec reminds me of me (only aristocratic, pretty, generally more appealing, and with a penis). He'd have to go back to Richard afterward, of course, but I think it might be interesting, for both of us, to spend a day together. I dunno what we'd do - I'd have to try and keep him out of trouble, but I think he might enjoy a walk around London.

The Fool from Robin Hobb's books. I think ze and I would get on well, but I'm still not fully reconciled to the direction it looks like Robin Hobb is taking with hir. But of my choices so far, ze and I would probably have the best rapport, and ze's interesting in all sorts of ways (even though I think, politically, Robin Hobb shouldn't do what I think she's going to). So yes, the Fool. Huggles also for the Fool. I like to think we could be friends.

I'm thinking about Glorfindel, because I'd like to know whether he was really reborn, and also it'd be quite cool to meet someone from Middle Earth and get the low-down on everything from a peripheral character, and I have some questions about elf physiology. I'd take him to do something he couldn't do in Middle Earth or Valinor - I'm tempted to say bowling, though I am shit at bowling, because I think he might appreciate the oddness of it.

Gollum is my favourite character from LotR, but I feel that might be a bit of a dead-end conversation - though I'd like to hug him, I'm not in any position to adopt him, and I feel like someone needs to.

Yoda is another possibility.

I'm also thinking Skaffen Amtiskaw, Diziet Sma's drone bodyguard from Use of Weapons. Though there are so many fantastic AIs to choose from in Banks' books... In fact, I'll just move to the Culture.

Huggles for Cheradanine Zakalwe.

I'd sort of like to meet Crowley and Aziraphale from Good Omens by Terry Pratchett (quick, find the holy water), and Neil Gaiman. And there are various other fictional pairs I'd like to meet to find out if they're actually shagging, or at least thinking about it.

Will make my last two choices concrete at some point.
 
 
that
12:58 / 03.09.03
Frigging hell. I do go on a bit. And the thing is, I could have gone on like that for at least another ten pages without any effort at all.

...and I'm going to stop now before this gets out of hand. Apologies for not being very highbrow or intellectual but I'm mostly ruled by my hormones.

Thank you, Ma'at. I was worried I was all alone.
 
 
Ma'at
13:56 / 03.09.03

Oooh! Oh! Oh! Cheradanine Zakalwe...how could I forget her. Bollox!

Okay she needs to be added to the list as well.

By the way if you like Good Omens, Cholister you must read this

Torch being an utter genius *again*...
 
 
that
14:03 / 03.09.03
I've read that fic before - it's lovely.

Zakalwe's a bloke though? Unless Banks pulled off another one of those eleventh hour revelations and I just missed it, which is possible.
 
 
Cat Chant
14:08 / 03.09.03
Torch has written one of the top six Harry/Snape stories of all time, as well. She was at the last Red Rose, but I hadn't read any of her stuff at that point, so I sort of didn't realize quite what genius I was in the presence of.

I think it'd be interesting to introduce the canon version and a good slash version of a character

Do you think they're always different? Maybe this is because I started out in such an old-skool fandom, but I do tend to think that the best slash is (quasi-)canonical - like, Avon really is shagging Blake, Harry and Snape really are going to end up together (the more I read of Order of the Penix the more obvious this is becoming: JKR, as someone put it, "knows more than she knows")... that's one of the reasons I'm not going to choose any HP characters, though, because I think the 'real' versions of them are slightly different from JKR's versions, the film versions and/or any of the slash writer's versions (including mine, obviously). Hmmm. I need to think about this more.
 
 
that
14:19 / 03.09.03
No, no, I don't think they're always different, of course...(and I very much agree about the (quasi-)canonical thing). But sometimes they are, especially in an ongoing canon like HP.

When I wrote that, about introducing slash/canon versions of a character, I was thinking about Sirius, and my favourite slash Siriuses are probably quite different from the canon Sirius in some ways, mostly because not that much was known about him when the fics were written. I think introducing the various versions of Sirius would be a bad idea though, because I think the canon version, for one, would find it very upsetting.

And also I read a fair bit of slash about peripheral characters, like Elladan and Elrohir, or Bill and Charlie Weasley, and in those instances it is up to the author of the fic to make them whole people, in one way or another.

And in other fandoms, like Red Dwarf, for instance, I think the slashers, in some ways, have to start the process of humanizing the characters, making them more than caricatures (that's a generalization, because the characters do have moments of well-developedness in canon, but you see what I am getting at).

Does that make sense?
 
 
Ma'at
14:23 / 03.09.03

He is. Oh hang on I'm thinking of Ulver Seich from 'Excession'. My abject apologies. Overexcited again heh!

Cheradanine Zakalwe's from Use of Weapons 'aint he, mind you he's very cool as well so perhaps him and Ulver then.

Then again now I'm thinking of Bank's Culture books I'd also have to add Sharrow from 'Against A Dark Background'.
 
 
that
14:32 / 03.09.03
I just read properly what you said about the real versions of the HP characters, Deva... I think that's very interesting, and I *think* I see what you're getting at. Connotation vs. denotation, and that comment about JKR knowing more than she knows, etc. Hm.
 
 
that
14:36 / 03.09.03
Ma'at - I love Zakalwe, but then I *do* tend to go for the dark and tortured type (hence the fact that Kennit from the Liveship trilogy is on my shag list). Other than him, I think it's mostly the AIs I'd like to meet. They're almost universally *so* damned cool.
 
 
Ma'at
14:36 / 03.09.03
Actually just de-railing the thread slightly but since HP slash keep scoming up I have to rec Resonant's 'Transfigurations. Read it here

Now I only occasionally read HP slash and up until now have steered well clear of Harry/Draco. I started reading this because a friend who helped beta it kept going on and on about how good it was...and...and then it ate an entire afternoon of my life.

Seriously brilliant, intelligent and innovative writing as well as damn hot sex. Its long but well worth it! Plus the *mighty* Theban Band did some illustrations for it
 
 
that
14:45 / 03.09.03
[off topic - slap wristies] I don't read Harry/Draco either, usually - but I'll give it a go, thanks, Ma'at.

I'd feel a bit weird about rec'ing people's work on an open board without permission, or I'd soooo link to the site of the person who is so totally one of my favourite slash writers. Her MWPP stuff is lovely, as is her Crowley/Aziraphale. As is almost all her stuff, actually.

[/off topic]
 
 
Cat Chant
14:45 / 03.09.03
Resonant's The Familiar is one of the other top six H/S stories ever, by the way. Resonant is a genius. We all bow to Resonant. If only I had ever seen Due South or Sentinel, then I could read her other stories.

(Cho, I see what you mean about Sirius, whose characterization has, as far as I can see, totally changed between 4 [where he is an adult] and 5 [where he is a teen] - or for an even more extreme example, Lexin wrote a bunch of stories with Mundungus Fletcher in before he was introduced as a character in Penix. Now that would be an interesting meeting...)
 
 
Ma'at
14:52 / 03.09.03
/Off topic

Deva: I think 'Transfigurations' is better then 'The Familar' and that's saying something.

Cholister: Don't worry about the permission thing. Resonant won't mind stuff being recc'd here. Seriously, this story is really well worth reading. I'm mainly involved in the Highlander and TPM fandoms these days and I still think its one of the best fics I've read for a long time.

/Off topic

Oh and I have to add another to my list:

*Cassidy* from The Preacher.
 
 
A
14:55 / 03.09.03
I am almost too tired to think at the moment, but I want to meet Superman.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:04 / 03.09.03
(I love Transfigurations. It's in my top 10 H/D's along with Mad Martha's The Lodger and Welcome to the Real World by IamtheLizardQueen. All 3 are basically classic futurefic's which I tend to find the best characterisation-wise.)

I would place Draco Malfoy as my number five but the same kind of qualms have stopped me. Which Draco would I choose? One of the above three? I couldn't stand source Draco because he's a 2 dimensional idiot, movie Draco's a little better but far too cliched and there are so many slash Draco's. There is a Pansy I'd like to meet... hmm, she's archived in Fanfiction.net and I know it's a H/D piece with 60 chapters. I'll look in to it.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
15:11 / 03.09.03
Oh...geez...

As a kid I wanted to be a member of Doc Savage's crew, as I read the books the day they would come out. Full of pulp adventure, funny arguments and male bonding that is almost impossible now. Who wouldn't want to spend their time with the Man of Bronze, righting wrongs and generally playing with the best tech toys possible?

Yeah. I am SUCH the geekboi.
 
 
that
15:31 / 03.09.03
Wasn't talking about Resonant - and totally wasn't saying that you all shouldn't rec stuff, not at all.

*Undoubtedly* I'm being too over-cautious - ultimately it's that I'm never really sure what the etiquette for this stuff is, so I just play it safe.
 
 
Axolotl
17:20 / 03.09.03
Hap and Leonard from Joe R. Lansdale's Hap and Leonard stories. They seem like pretty cool guys. Jeeves and Wooster, though undoubtedly after 5 minutes with Bertie I'd have to strangle him for being the apotheosis of the corrupt and decadent aristocratic class. If we're allowing film characters then Elwood P. Dowd from Harvey, just because. And the final fictional character I'd like to meet purely for sad and pathetic fanboy reasons, Peter Parker. (I know, I'm sorry)
 
 
Tryphena Absent
18:12 / 03.09.03
Chol, my favourite thing about your threads in conversation is that they always end up being slash discussions and we need more! More slash dicussions and more links!
 
 
that
18:26 / 03.09.03
Heh. Indeed.

Actually, we do have this underpopulated thread for slash recs. We should probably take the linkage over there, really. [/moderator hat]
 
 
Cat Chant
18:35 / 03.09.03
Elwood P. Dowd from Harvey, just because

Argh! That is pure genius! It's getting harder and harder to narrow down my last two options now that Jimmy Stewart has entered the equation...
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
20:39 / 03.09.03
Oh, God yes. Elwood P. Dowd, George Bailey, and Mike Connor. Want to meet all three of them. At once.

Simon Templar, the real one from Leslie Charteris' fiction, not the radio and screen pretenders. Quixotic, outrageously camp, devil-may-care, and hard as nails... The Holy Terror, indeed... And he's a pirate. Arrrr.

I'll second Methos, Ma'at...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:13 / 03.09.03
I've got it! Maria from the sound of Music so that she could sing to me and teach me to sing and take me on adventures while wearing a pair of curtains and we could visit the nunnery and be all jolly!!
 
  

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