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ftm arrested for using the men's bathroom at WEF

 
 
Disco is My Class War
09:19 / 05.02.02
I got this in an email today... The boy involved said to post it to bulletin boards, so I am...

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Friends and Allies,

I'm writing to update you on the events of this weekend involving my arrest (with two friends) for using the 'men's' restroom at Grand Central Station. I have received many concerned and supportive emails and calls, and I wanted to take a moment to give everyone the full story of what happened, and some thoughts about the significance of this experience.

On Saturday (2/2/02), I participated with my affinity group in the anti-WEF rally at 59th Street and the long march that followed curving around down toward the Waldorf Astoria. By 5pm, after 6 hours of being outside in the cold, we were all very tired and needed to use the bathrooms and get some food. We went to Grand Central station, and headed toward the bathrooms on the Dining Concourse level. I entered the "men's" room, as is my custom, and was followed in by a cop. As I was looking to see what stalls were open, he approached and asked for my ID. I explained that I was in the right bathroom, that I am transgender and I understood his confusion, but I was just going to use the bathroom and leave. Craig came in after the cop because he was worried about me, and as the cop forcefully asked for my ID over and over, Craig said "He's in the right bathroom, please just let him pee and we'll leave." Craig even volunteered to show his ID to the cop if it would help. When I realized that the cop wasn't going to leave us alone despite our explanations, I said "Let's just leave, I'll pee somewhere else." At that point, we tried to walk past the cop and he physically restrained us by pushing us up against the wall and blocking our exit while he radioed for back up. Ultimately, we were thrown to the floor and dragged (with me screaming "I was just trying to pee! Help me!" to the tourist and protester onlookers) through the station. Our other friend Ananda was also arrested while trying to advocate for us.

We were held for 23 hours at 3 different precincts. I was placed with Ananda with the "female" population. Craig was housed with the "male" population. It was a typical jail stay with the usual discomforts: lack of food and water, freezing cold, overcrowding, filth, and verbal harrassment. Also typically, most of the people we met inside had been arrested for crimes like being poor, being non-white, being homeless, etc. The most emotionally challenging part for me was the transphobia I encountered from the court attorney who represented me at my arraignment. He came to the cell around noon yesterday (2/3/02), read the police statement on my court documents, and asked why I was in the "men's" room. I explained that I am transgender and I customarily use "men's" rooms, go by a male name and pronoun. He wrinkled up his face, said with a very dismissive and disapproving attitude "That is your business. I don't care." and then asked me what my genitalia is. I asked "Why is do you need to know that?" Being unfamiliar with state court criminal proceedings, and having been told by the National Lawyer's Guild attorney who visited us in our cells at Grand Central that the arraignment was a formality that did not require his assistance, I was unclear as to how much detail about my situation would be required for this attorney to do his job at the arraignment. Also, having experienced on numerous occasions the inappropriately personal questions asked by some people who are hostile about my transgender identity, I was on guard to make sure that I would only have to engage in such a conversation if it was relevant to my legal case. The attorney took offense to my questioning the relevance of his inquiry about my genitalia, and communicated that if I would not cooperate with him, that was my problem. Because I was unsure about what would happen to me if he would not advocate for me vigorously, and because I feared being given a bail I could not meet, I ultimately suffered the indignity of having to satisfy his curiosity about my genitalia by explaining it. Even then, he said dismissively about my transgender "well, that is your personal business" and left without giving me any information about what would happen in the courtroom. For the next several hours, I was deeply concerned about the quality of representation I would get in the courtroom, and whether I would be released on my own recognizance. Having never been arrested in a situation in which I was not prepared for arrest before, having never been arraigned individually, and having never been represented by a court attorney rather than pro bono counsel before, I was very concerned that I might not be released.

Much to my relief, I discovered upon entering the courtroom that it was filled with friends and allies wearing "Living Trans is Not a Crime" stickers. Having them there, I knew that I would be safe. The prosecutor described my crime by saying "Defendant was asked for identification. Defendant responded, 'I am a man. I am a transvestite.'" If it wasn't so disturbing, it might have been funny. After that, the Judge released me on my own recognizance. Within the next half hour, Ananda and Craig were also released. All in all, we spent 23 hours in jail. I am being charged with two counts of Disorderly Conduct, one count of Trespassing, one count of Resisting Arrest, and one count of Obstruction of Government Administration. Ananda and Craig are being charged with Obstruction, Resisting, and Disorderly Conduct. Our next court date is March 6. I will continue to update all of you on the progress of our case and our organizing efforts.

As a final note, I will tell you a few of the things these arrests have made me think about. First, I am outraged, of course, by the double-bind in which gender segregation of bathrooms leaves transgender, transsexual, gender variant, and genderqueer people. Like many people, each time I use a public bathroom I face the fact that no matter what choice I make, I may encounter harassment and potential violence and arrest. My level of bathroom anxiety, of course, is increased by the weekend's events. However, I am hopeful that the increased visibility of this problem afforded by the media coverage of the arrests and the organizing we will continue will result in policy changes about bathroom segregation. I hope that this arrest will spark campaigns to provide safe, non-gendered bathroom options for all people in all public spaces. I intend to continue vigorously advocating on this issue.

Additionally, this arrest raises questions about the practice of indicating "legal gender" on state identification cards. It is my belief that just as "race" has been eliminated as a category on state identification (in most states, to my knowledge) gender should similarly be eliminated. Had I had "M" on my ID in this situation, I could have shown it to the officer. However, I might still be arrested, and then I would have faced the possibility of being housed with a male population in jail. Would this have been safe? I tend to think it would not. However, with "F" on my identification I face the continual problem of having my preferred gender terms not aligned with what is on my ID. Either choice, for people like me who face the possibility of arrest in an increasingly aggressive police state and who are targeted for harassment due to gender identity, is unsafe.

Despite the discomforts of the weekends events, I have hope that much good will come from these arrests. We have been contacted by various legal organizations interested in our case. I hope that we can use legal and political means to change the police policies regarding bathroom enforcement and transgender arrests, increase awareness of bathroom gender enforcement issues amongst other organizations and institutions that have gender segregated bathrooms, and increase awareness of transgender experience generally. I was glad to hear from my sister in San Francisco that the arrests were announced at an anti-WEF rally she went to, and to see that they are being covered by the Independent Media Center and other groups focused on the WEF events. I think that it is a step forward to have anti-capitalist activists and movements considering transgender issues and participation. I was also overwhelmed by the response of our friends and other allies to our arrests. I am deeply grateful to everyone who advocated for us and who showed their support in court and by email and phone. I feel like I am an incredibly lucky person to have so many trans and non-trans friends up in arms over trans politics.

As you may know, I am currently working to start up a new law project focusing on the needs of low-income transgender, transsexual, genderqueer, and gender variant folks in NYC. It was funny to spend a week writing a grant about issues such as the discriminatory treatment of this population in criminal justice contexts, as well as the inadequacy of many lawyers to provide sensitive and appropriate services to us, and then to experience these very problems myself on the weekend. The experience has reinforced my commitment to this work.

Thanks for reading this long email. Feel free to pass it on to anyone who might be interested. I will continue to update you on the progress of our case and any other events we plan. Please contact me if you have ideas for strategy or resources that may be helpful.

Dean

P.S. Here's a photo of riot cops fretting over the sweet people who were advocating for us when we were still being held at Grand Central. As I'm writing this, the photo is mis-captioned, identifying me as a "transgender woman." We've asked them to correct that. http://nyc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=18556&group=webcast
 
 
Molly Shortcake
09:40 / 05.02.02
Shit, I never let those gender signs stop me. If the men's room is full I take a dump in the womens. You should see the utter terror on their face as I exit the stall.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:40 / 05.02.02
This makes me teeth-grindingly angry. Still, if it brings trans issues to the attention of the anti-capitalist/anti-globalisation lobby, that could well be a good thing. I'll be interested to see what kind of reaction/coverage this gets...
 
 
Shortfatdyke
09:40 / 05.02.02
difficult to articulate how i feel here - too busy trying not to throw things around the office in anger and frustration.

the law is an ass, the cop (amongst others) was an asshole. not very snappy, but as i say, i don't really know what else to say.

i have had 'wrong bathroom' shit, as have other dykes - all female identified - and it has been either funny or embarrassing. it's never got to that stage, thankfully.

as flyboy says, i do wonder how the issue will be perceived by the anti-capitalist etc community. i said in the angry brigade thread, i have seen trade union/left wingers walk away from a may day rally when lesbian and gay rights were mentioned, so i hope the reaction and understanding in this case is rather better.

rosa - is it possible to send supportive vibes to the boy involved? and thanks for posting this.
 
 
that
09:40 / 05.02.02
quote:Originally posted by shortfatdyke:
difficult to articulate how i feel here - too busy trying not to throw things around the office in anger and frustration...

the law is an ass, the cop (amongst others) was an asshole. not very snappy, but as i say, i don't really know what else to say.

rosa - is it possible to send supportive vibes to the boy involved? and thanks for posting this.


I'd just like to second all that, really...
 
 
Jackie Susann
09:40 / 05.02.02
Dean is one of the Makezine kids (as is Craig), you can reach them there.

I'm more interested in how queer/trans organisations and press will respond - are the liberals going to write him off as an anarchist vandal, or will they be forced to articulate positions on protest, globalisation, capital, etc? Will their positions be any good?

I know Dean's lurked here at least a little, so on the off chance he's reading this, take care matey.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
09:40 / 05.02.02
Yep, Dean lurks here, I think, and do send him good vibes via Makezine. I am also interested to see how the various queer legal advocacy groups handle it.
 
 
craig
14:05 / 05.02.02
hey all, this is craig of what i like to call "the bathroom 3." though obviously it's insane this whole situation went down, we are excited to mobilize anti-capitalist activists around trans issues. it was an amazing feeling to enter the courtroom and find a huge group of trans and non-trans activists wearing stickers reading "Living trans is not a crime" and connecting issues of capitalism, public space, and gender identity. some good discussion has been taking place on indymedia, and our crew is ready to fight not only our charges but the illegal harassment that lead to them.

as a white non-trans guy, this whole situation has made me consider how in mobilizations like those in New York this weekend, we should strategize carefully to protect our allies who are most vulnerable in the presence of such terrorizing and massive police forces. we need to creatively address ways of guaranteeing the safe participation of everyone in public protest--people of color, people with disabilities, trans people, youth.

we have a nasty battle ahead, but we're all eager for the opportunity to push some conversations along. thank you all for your support and kind words!
 
 
Re-Set
15:12 / 05.02.02
Kinda makes you want to just go in the woods. It's safer these days.
 
 
bitchiekittie
15:29 / 05.02.02
jesus this pisses me off. I cannot tell you how many times Ive gone into a mans bathroom when a line is too long, or taken a guy in the womens bathroom with me when the mens bathroom has an issue

a single bathroom, with everything behind doors for privacy, would solve this issue as well as the long lines for chicks one

(Im pissed but have nothing to say, sorry)
 
 
Sauron
15:31 / 05.02.02
Good Luck Guys.
 
 
Ganesh
15:39 / 05.02.02
It makes me wonder whether some people become unreasonably angry with transpeople because they feel they're being wilfully "deceived" (as in WoI's hypothetical come-on scenario) for nefarious purposes (ie. to "spy" on others in the toilets) or whether it's down to anxiety at the thought of "mutilated genitalia" or what.

Whatever, good karma to the guys concerned.
 
 
Ierne
15:40 / 05.02.02
...this whole situation has made me consider how in mobilizations like those in New York this weekend, we should strategize carefully to protect our allies who are most vulnerable in the presence of such terrorizing and massive police forces. – craig

This is indeed a crucial point. Many large, prominent organizations didn't come to New York this weekend because they could not guarantee their consituency safety from the NYPD. In order to ensure larger turnouts for these events despite the very real threat of police brutality, ideas need to be formalized concerning how we protect ourselves and others not as able to protect themselves.

Floats: go in the woods, eh? The closest thing we have here in NYC is Central Park...or Port Authority...
 
 
Sauron
15:46 / 05.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh v4.2:
It makes me wonder whether some people become unreasonably angry with transpeople because they feel they're being wilfully "deceived" (as in WoI's hypothetical come-on scenario) for nefarious purposes (ie. to "spy" on others in the toilets) or whether it's down to anxiety at the thought of "mutilated genitalia" or what.

Whatever, good karma to the guys concerned.


Isn't it just a base logic thing?

Heterosexual men and women computes.

Gay men and women does not compute.

Transgender men and women -system overload.

People's brain's cannot understand why or how so their ignorance takes over. I don't think they're thinking as far as changed genetalia. Their brains do not work in that much depth. If you were born with a penis you must be a man, what's wrong with you?.
 
 
Ganesh
15:51 / 05.02.02
Yeah, but why get so angry with trans people for no good reason at all? I think it's an unconscious fear/phobia/anxiety about (what they perceive as) genital mutilation coupled with - in some, anyway - a misplaced sense of having been unjustly "deceived". I guess this is one of the reasons the previous hypothetical situation got me so antsy...
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
15:55 / 05.02.02
This opinion is probably worth nothing by I've thought that gendered facilities are something of a relic of a bygone age where the concerns of propriety ran far further and far deeper.

If I were asked to predict the result, I would imagine that this would include a vague apology by people who haven't taken the time to understand the issues at hand and some loosely enforced sensitivity training for the officer involved.

Still a complete shitfest though. it shouldn't have happened and after the final verdict gets handed down there isn't goingto be any real difference in the way this sort of situation is handled in the future.
 
 
Ria
15:55 / 05.02.02
would like to point out that this time of thing happens all the time and you never hear about it.

I cannot think of much more humiliating (or scary) for me than cops putting me in a men's jail.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:03 / 05.02.02
WTF? I'm speechless. What the hell was wrong with these people (the cops & that lot, not the folk that got arrested)? I mean, anxiety, disapproval- these reactions are bad enough, but as far as I can make out the autorities were basically trying to bully the transexualism out of these people.

I feel sick.

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
16:05 / 05.02.02
Sorry for asking if this is an inappropriate question but why scary?

Having no real experience with mens jails, I was under the impression that the stereotype of a continous buggery party was something of a media cliche.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:12 / 05.02.02
Edited to avoid yet another shitstorm.

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
16:15 / 05.02.02
also here.

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Wisdom of idiots ]
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:22 / 05.02.02
...and again.

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
16:25 / 05.02.02
also here

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Wisdom of idiots ]
 
 
bitchiekittie
16:30 / 05.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Wisdom of idiots:
Sorry for asking if this is an inappropriate question but why scary?

Having no real experience with mens jails, I was under the impression that the stereotype of a continous buggery party was something of a media cliche.


as a woman, Id be damned scared to be locked up with a roomful of unhappy men. add to that the stupidly absurd anger people towards anything they dont understand and I would think the fear would be unbearable
 
 
Ganesh
16:33 / 05.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Wisdom of idiots:
Having no real experience with mens jails, I was under the impression that the stereotype of a continous buggery party was something of a media cliche.


Not sure quite how "horse's mouth" I am on this one; while I'm not transgender and I've never been imprisoned, forensic psychiatric work's taken me inside all-male prisons on several occasions, and I've treated a few ex-prisoners.

The media portrayal may or may not be overstated but it's essentially based in fact. Male rape does go on and it's generally "explained" as the effect of the prolonged absence of women.

In those circumstances, I would ima-a-agine the fear of being a woman (transgender or birth) in a male prison stems from the awareness that one is hugely vulnerable to physical or sexual indignity, harm and assault.

Oddly enough.

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Ganesh v4.2 ]
 
 
Ierne
16:36 / 05.02.02
...but as far as I can make out the authorities were basically trying to bully the transexualism out of these people. – Mordant C@rnival

The NYPD and other security forces were gearing up for last weekend's protests for weeks beforehand, going so far as to have a press conference to show off all the ways in which they could "deal" with protestors. Since the actual turnout was lower than expected, the heavy police presence had to be justified somehow. So perhaps they desperately swooped down on anyone they could get.

(1500 posts...oh my! )

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
Ria
16:48 / 05.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Wisdom of idiots:
Sorry for asking if this is an inappropriate question but why scary.


because while I don't look like a woman I also don't look like a man and I happen to have breasts.

(BTW Wisdom of Fools did not nessecarily know my gender status when he asked the question, only the part where I said that I might possibly have gone to a men's jail.)

[ 05-02-2002: Message edited by: Ria ]
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
16:58 / 05.02.02
Thank you an no, I had no idea.

It may be bad policy but I haven't kept track of everyone's sex/sexuality/gender/etc since I've started here.
 
 
Ria
18:38 / 05.02.02
I would also like to say that Ganesh made some excellent points. aside from well-connected gangsters I think everyone in jail has reason to fear. and not just from other prisoners.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
18:41 / 05.02.02
Yes and it's a response with some reasoning behind.

"My what big facts you have"

"All the better to inform you with WoI"
 
 
Shortfatdyke
05:41 / 06.02.02
for information - rainbow network want to do a piece on this. i have sent a copy of the email (hope that was okay) but don't have any press reports - anyone has a link, please post it here and i will pass it on.
 
 
craig
16:15 / 06.02.02
hey, anyone wanting to stay in touch with us regarding future actions & organizing in response to our arrests, please email us at:
LetUsPee@yahoo.com
and we'll put you on our list. thanks!

ps this contact info could be passed on to the rainbow network ppl too
 
 
Shortfatdyke
04:17 / 07.02.02
craig - it is done!
 
  
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