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King Mob in new Matrix Revolutions trailer

 
 
rexpop
13:43 / 26.08.03
While checking out the new Matrix trailer, I noticed this frame around the 59 second mark.

King Mob

Nice and smooth.
 
 
Mr Tricks
15:33 / 26.08.03
He lost his piercings though...
 
 
PatrickMM
03:46 / 27.08.03
Do you have a seperate link to the picture, it doesn't seem to be loading.

And on another note, anyone else notice the "Mob" graphittied onto a fence during the Neo/Smiths fight scene in Reloaded? That's a pretty undeniable reference to the Invisibles.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
03:56 / 27.08.03
Why are we still shocked that there are no original ideas in the Matrix movies?
 
 
EvskiG
04:18 / 29.08.03
Why do we still assume there were original ideas in The Invisibles?
 
 
mixmage
08:16 / 29.08.03
... and the word DUEL written backwards... and a bindrune. This is while Neo and Oracle are still chatting and scarfing the "red pills in blue wrappers" .

Talk about telegraphing a fight scene!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:33 / 29.08.03
Why is this thread in the Comics forum? Can a Moderator move it to Film & TV, please?
 
 
PatrickMM
23:38 / 29.08.03
Why do we assume there are any original ideas left at all?

But actually, while some of the ideas in The Invisibles are taken from elsewhere, they were synthesized in a way that was completely new and tapped into that moment in time perfectly. I hadn't seen the leather/bald motif used that much yet before it, and it's the most original time travel story I've ever read. So, yes, some parts are derivative, but I think Invis is still a very original work.
 
 
--
03:11 / 30.08.03
Wouldn't it be cool if that were really Grant Morrison? They've ripped him off to the point that the man himself now appears in the movie...
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:19 / 30.08.03
And did anyone else notice the "smith copying himself" effect looked very simmilar to the "4d armour" effect in the invisibles? (The big black slippery changey slurpy thing.)

The point is that while the matrix can be all "philosophical" it is actually not a rebellious film. We can watch the matrix and think, "ah good, its in a film, in the future. We're safe here now, in our arm chairs." Theres nothing in that film to promote actual rebellion in todays world- whereas in the invisibles washington gets nuked.

Does anyone know if the W brothers have ever read any morrison?
 
 
bjacques
14:14 / 30.08.03
The Matrix is about as rebellious as Harry Potter. Both feature "chosen" characters proceeding to take their rightful place at the top. Dane/Jack Frost is too, but almost all the other Invisibles characters are born more or less normal people--maybe a bit smarter or enterprising than most--but look for (King Mob, Ragged Robin, Jolly Roger) or are pushed into (Lord Fanny, Boy) the extraordinary. Mason Lang is a tourist, but a really cool one. But it's more of a team effort than the Matrix, which is God and two apostles who kick ass.

If the Stars My Destination were made into a movie it would be rebellious. Its hero is a nobody who finds the will to become great and ends up turning the solar system upside down. He literally becomes Prometheus, but doesn't lose his liver over it. (I haven't read the sequel The Deceivers, so I could be wrong.)

Also, the Invisibles change the world so that everyone can be their own superheor, if that's what they want (then Bicycle Repairman will be king!). I'll have to wait if Matrix Revolutions ends the same way or Neo is just a puppet who finally learns his lines and can help the Frankenstein Computer God (aka the Architect) fix the broken world so that everyone is actively happy (instead of passively sort of happy).

So on the above basis, I guess The Matrix owes a bit less to GM.
 
 
mixmage
23:54 / 31.08.03
*just an aside*

Did you notice that, when Neo makes his choice, he exits SCREEN RIGHT. Thus...

Neo takes "The Left Hand Path"

NB. the complete disregard for the trail of destruction he leaves while pursuing his "choice"

How many get "reset" that night?
 
 
PatrickMM
00:26 / 01.09.03
Does anyone know if the W brothers have ever read any morrison?

In Anarchy for the Masses, Grant mentions that The Invisibles was on set during the making of the first Matrix, so I'd assume the Wachowskis have read at least some of it.
 
 
A
00:44 / 01.09.03
This is from an online chat thing with the Wachowskis here.

ToiletCommando: Is it true that you got some of your ideas from the Vertigo comic The Invisibles?

WachowskiBros: We do enjoy that comic, but no.
 
  
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