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DMT and Sigil Magick

17:37 / 14.08.03

I am planning to experiment with sigils in combination with DMT.
Who has experience / suggestions I can draw from?

Any shamans out there who have insights that might be of relevance?

I have done some sigil experiments with loud guitar feedbacks and effect laden vocal chanting, but I have not really been able to reach the desired state of "gnosis". So I decide to take it a step further. Any ideas?

17:52 / 14.08.03

You know, there are easier ways...

18:15 / 14.08.03

i'm sure there are easier ways

the planned experiments are mostly intended to further my hyperspace meditations and exploration of parallel universes.

I just thought I might as well combine it with sigils rituals

cusm, care to elaborate on your ideas of "easier ways"?

18:42 / 14.08.03

Just to go over a few common ways to gnosis:

Orgasm, holding your breath, spinning around until you fall over, that sort of thing. Even a shot of NO2 will do the trick. Its that moment before you pass out, or the moment where your brain shuts off and blanks out, that gnosis can be found.

I wouldn't use DMT to achieve gnosis for sigilization, but use of sigils with DMT could potentially guide the trip signifigantly, so is certainly something worth investigating. If you have any results with it, do post it if you can.

07:02 / 15.08.03

DMT is pretty f*king full on. The one time I did it I had major problems with slipping into a trance of wonderment/terror and difficulties with things like understanding time and language so recalling a sigil might be a bit dificult. I'd say draw it out at least, rather than attempting to visualise. This is not to discourage you from experiemnting however - go for it, and please post your results.

There's an interesting "chemognostic banishing" in Dave Lee's book "Chaotopia" - seems perhaps more orietated towards acid, but that might be useful before your trip.

16:11 / 17.08.03

so I did my ittle experiment yesterday.
my "babysitter" held up the visual sigil in front of my eyes when i took the hit, and it was the last thing I can remember before really spacing out.
from then on, the sigil did not seem to have an effect on the trip. i made contact with the primpordeal force, lots of lava, everything was very "fire" oriented.
I do feel (despite talking about it here for "scientific" reasons) that I have completely let loose of the goal and intent of the sigil, the trip has put it into some perspective, and I am not concerned or thinking about an outcome (it must seem like a paradox since I am obviously reflecting on it in some way right now). the experiment has allowed me to really separate the sigil/ritual from the intended outcome, so even while reflecting on the ritual, the intent has been fired off and it beyond my thoughts now.

I intend to do some further research. Still would like to hear other peoples related experiences to psychadelic drug use in combination with rituals.