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Christopher Hyatt: The Psychopath’s Bible

 
 
captain piss
13:43 / 29.07.03
Picked up a copy of this a while ago. It seems to be a kind of – I dunno, really – ½-satire, ½-genuine manual for manipulation and control of your fellow man – heheh.

There’s the odd bit that seems to proffer quite useful advice and sensible views. He says something about how people who suffer nervous breakdowns because of the feelings of pointlessness that plague their lives, for instance, are very rarely advised by their doctors stuff like “why don’t you go and climb Mount Everest?” Instead, they’re given drugs to get them stuck back into the very stultifying routines that have led to their problems in the first place. Stuff like that had me going “yeah – that’s a good point”. But then Hyatt seems to all too frequently fall into his whole [adopts scary Vincent Price voice] “you can control others very easily in this manner” type thing. (“Errr…yeah, alright mate”).

There’s also some amusing stuff like Hyatt’s top “psychopath films” – which showcase and celebrate the psychopath personality (“Point Break” and “Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid” come up for particular approval).

So anyway- just throwing this open to ask what others make of this, or perhaps what people make of this style of Hyatt’s. It seems to be kind of about fucking with the reader or coming at things from this angle where you’re never really sure whether he’s just taking the piss or genuinely telling you as it is.

I suppose there’s also the worry that some will pick up books like this and take its advice and worldview at face value. Anyway…
 
 
illmatic
14:15 / 29.07.03
You might find this essay of interest:

Romancing the Shadow - Psychopaths and the American Dream which is pretty much a direct critque of the that book.

Seems to be saying that psychopaths aren't as romantic as they seem - if we look closely at say, serial killers - they're normally people who were fucked up, tortured and abused by their parents/carers - hardly something to aspire toward, is it? I suppose these ideal is an extension of an ideal in our culture - the untouchable male who never cries, never shows any emotion. Actually, Reichian shrink Alexander Lowen characteristics the "psychopathic personality" as exactly this, someone so heavily armoured as to be completely out of touch with their emotions and body, prone to halluncinations etc.

The little I've read of Hyatt, I always think, "hmmm.. doens't like people very much, does he"? You can do all the magick or therapy in the world, but it won't necessarily make you a nice bloke. Then again, I love "Undoing Yourself With Energised Mediation" soley for the exercises. I can take or leave the rest of the book but those exercises are solid gold. Reichian stuff, via Israel Regardie (and if anyone ever find out what the connection between these two men was, tell me! It's been bugging me for ages).
 
 
Quantum
14:57 / 29.07.03
[rot] I've not read Hyatt, sorry, but Illmatic; Regardie & Reich-
(from http://www.golden-dawn.com/temple/index.jsp?s=articles&p=initiation)
"Regardie later moved to the U.S., where he became familiar with the ideas of Wilhelm Reich and entered into Reichian therapy. He also began to correspond with Reich's daughter Eva, which stimulated him to take a serious interest in the mind-body connection and at length to train as a chiropractor."

"He ultimately concluded that verbal therapy of any orientation paled in the light of Reich's bodywork, and that the techniques of ceremonial magic would one day become a powerful adjunct to psychotherapy.

As a therapist and a bodyworker, Regardie combined Reich's approach with minor chiropractic adjustments, basic magical techniques, and hatha yoga. "

"Regardie often related Reichian ideas to the magic of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. He was particularly fond of one magical exercise called the Middle Pillar Ritual. In this technique the magician visualizes successive spheres of light at various points above, below, and along the spinal column while vibrating certain words. This generates a certain kind of energy, which, according to Regardie, is identical to Reich's orgone. This energy is then circulated around and through the entire body by means of further visualization."

Both Golden Dawners, Regardie built on Reichian ideas. Thanks for making me look! [/rot]
 
 
illmatic
15:17 / 29.07.03
(Continuing rot)Cheers, Quants, I've been wondering about that for years - always wondered if they met, because I'd wondered where Regardie picked up his Reichian training. he alludes to it in the interview published in the New Falcon Anthology. (/rot).
 
 
Lionheart
16:35 / 29.07.03
No topic summary/abstract!!!

Which means I'll add one after 24 - 48 hours unless somebody objects (and gives reason for his/hers objection).

What does Hyatt mean by "psychopath"?
 
 
The Knights Templar Boogie Machine
17:28 / 29.07.03
I dunno, its kind of bollocks...The book starts off on one footing and then seems to go off on another then just gets a bit silly...I think the intensity of psychopathic behaviour is the main point, and as with tantra and other forms of magick, intensity and pushing beyond limits is what its all about. Rather than be a mass murderer go and try and channel the same intensity into creativity and self development etc...See? I've summed it up in about two sentences without you having to fork out £9.95!
As for the name toxic(k) magick, it just sounds like bad eighties heavy metal tracks! W hich reminds me, True metal - a beginners guide to the magickal systems of Manowar is out next month from all good bookstores...
 
 
Salamander
18:14 / 29.07.03
What I get from Hyatt, (I have psychopaths bible on order, haven't read it yet), is that he finds the average guys tendancy to do nothing but complain until a father/guru, mother/priestess figure steps in and forces them to take control of whatever is bothering them, typically for the price of 50$ an hour, or completely slavish loyalty, or both, to be completely contemptable. He deffinatley likes pointing out that our nonaverage people can be harmful to society, but more often can be benificial to the whole. Basically what he seems like to me is a guy thats not happy because everyone else is miserable and doing nothing about it.
 
 
Aethelwine Jedi
21:13 / 29.07.03
T'would be much appreciated if someone could tell me where to get this book from. I'm curious, but I can't seem to find it. Plus, I'm most likely impressionable enough to fork out £9.95 for the bloody thing.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
08:08 / 30.07.03
As for the name toxic(k) magick...

Many of the ideas in The Psychopath's Bible were 'previewed' in a small chapbook by Hyatt called The Toxick Magician (released in a limited edn by Asafoedita/Dagon Productions). There was supposed to be a follow-up to TPB from Falcon called - wait for it - The Psychopath's Workbook though there's no mention of it on their website, so I presume it's been dropped.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
09:47 / 30.07.03
Is it called toxick to differentiate it from stage toxicity?
 
 
trouser the trouserian
10:43 / 30.07.03
I presume that it got called 'toxick' to give it a magick-y flavour.

I've just been and had a peep at New Falcon's website and it seems that TPB has been 'updated' with "almost 80 pages of new 'workbook' material including exercises, 'tests' and techniques." A Psychopath's CD is in the works, and apparently the new version is co-written by one Dr. Jack Willis who apparently holds that:
"Those who engage in self-sacrifice deserve to be sacrificed; man is the measure of all things (take that you ecology-freaks); unhappiness is an accident; and productivity, creativity, and pleasure are the metaphysical essentials of life." Again, according to New Falcon, Willis was a patient & student of Israel Regardie, and Regardie turned his practice over to Willis when he retired. Natch', Hyatt reccomends Willis as a reichian therapist.

Is Regardie's shade being invoked here in order to cast a warm glow over TPB?
 
 
Quantum
10:46 / 30.07.03
"Is it called toxick to differentiate it from stage toxicity?" GL
ROFL!
 
 
trouser the trouserian
10:52 / 30.07.03
toxick - 'stage toxicity'

The penny's just dropped on that one (Duh....)
LOL
 
 
illmatic
12:11 / 30.07.03
I certainly wouldn't want to engage in therapy with someone who holds that "unhappiness is an accident", and that anybody who holds that man is not the be all and end all is an "ecology freak". Sounds really warm and symphathetic doesn't he?

Also "productivity, creativity, and pleasure are the metaphysical essentials of life" sounds like a rip off of Reich's epigraph - "love, work and knowledge and the wellsprings of our life - they should also govern it". Would be interested to see the book though, but more in a "flick through for 10mins in a bookshop" kind of way than an "actually exchange money for it" kind of way.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
15:29 / 30.07.03
I did some digging on Jack Willis

from an orgone therapists's page:
Entry for Jack Willis:
Trained for 9 years by Francis Regardie. Doing limited Reich type therapy with some patients since mid 1971.
He does not believe in orgone energy and feels Reich was all wrong about orgone but he does agree with the parts of Reich's therapy process and is convinced through therapuetic experience of its effectiveness.


Hyatt has recently produced a profile of George Bush and Saddam Hussein. Quite what Hyatt hopes to achieve by publishing this sort of stuff escapes me.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
16:23 / 30.07.03
It's this bit from his profile that gets me (bold type mine)

Christopher S. Hyatt, Ph.D. has advanced degrees in experimental psychology, education, human behavior and criminal justice. He has published articles in peer reviewed journals on person perception. He was licensed as a clinical psychologist, in addition to being a marriage and family therapist.

Imagine getting Hyatt in as your marraige guidance counsellor...

It reminds me of filmmaker Allesandro Jodorowsky who also worked for many years as a family counsellor in Paris. I mean, did someone watch 'El Topo' and 'The Holy Mountain' and think, hmmm, that guy would make a great family counsellor.

"What you need to do is strip your son naked and take him out into the desert. Then get him to bury a photo of his mother and a favourite toy in the sand and walk away without looking back."
 
 
Salamander
21:50 / 30.07.03
I was going to write a defense of the man, but other than a few books, I can't defend most of his shameless profiteering. What I can say is that if you don't like his material, at least try the exercises, they're entertaining.
 
 
captain piss
10:43 / 31.07.03
Got any info about him at all? I haven't been able to trace a single thing about him...
I certainly find him interesting to read. From what I remember of The Psychopath's Bible, it is quite compelling – just getting your head round this particular way of looking at the world. Partly, it seems, the whole ethos is “help people get what they want, thereby destroying themselves”. Interesting to think that maybe some people do look at things that way…I can imagine it being quite useful material if you were researching to write a story that involved predatory figures in high level corporate/government positions or whatever…
I’d quite like to read this again, in fact…

A lot of interesting ideas in that essay from Phil Hine, I thought - the idea that traits normally associated with this ideal personality type of the “psychopath” – autonomy, detachment, control of others etc – are all promoted greatly in American culture and the modern milieu of self-help, win-at-all-costs business manuals and so on.

Have just started re-reading Undoing Yourself with Energised Meditation and other devices. Previously found the exercises useful up to a point...not sure if I entirely got it, to be honest...it does seem sketchy on the precise details of things, making it difficult to really extract the useful stuff from it, I thought...

A friend of mine thought it seemed like it was designed for people with attention deficit disorder (or maybe frequent cannabis users) - he certainly seems to make an effort to reach out to people with low attention span - the big writing and funny, incongruent pictures.
There’s a new edition out, with a few extra chapters- including one by that Jack Willis bloke. It seems to deal with more of the “mental” aspects of undoing yourself – stuff to do with attitudes and personality traits and so on – as opposed to the body of the book which deals mainly with the physical side, and the mind/body connection.
 
 
_Boboss
12:51 / 31.07.03
He arguably has bigger balls than regardie, but is not so good a writer. I like him because he seems to want people to stop fucking the world up and has strategies whereby they might. He edited an anthology of stuff called Rebels and Devils which a load of folk here must have read, lots of good stuff by good people that you can probly all now find on tinternet. He's just a bit fifties i suppose, too much jimmy dean...
 
 
Bastard Shit Man
14:37 / 31.07.03
You can do all the magick or therapy in the world, but it won't necessarily make you a nice bloke.

I think maybe Hyatt would agree with you. He might say “Making oneself a nice bloke isn’t the purpose of magick – and it shouldn’t be the purpose of psychotherapy.” He might then add “The ability to be a nice bloke when it suits your objectives is a valuable skill.” And “If you are unable to be a nice bloke when it suits your objectives, then certain magical or psychotherapeutic techniques may help you to develop the necessary flexibility.”

Also "productivity, creativity, and pleasure are the metaphysical essentials of life" sounds like a rip off of Reich's epigraph - "love, work and knowledge and the wellsprings of our life - they should also govern it".

Sounds like Reich via Objectivism?

I certainly wouldn't want to engage in therapy with someone who holds that "unhappiness is an accident"

??? Me, I’d rather see a therapist who believes that unhappiness is an accident, than a therapist who believes that unhappiness is an inevitable condition of life, and that psychological maturity means giving up expectations of fun, excitement and ecstasy (these expectations being childish and unrealistic).

I suspect I’m misunderstanding you here, Illmatic. Apologies if I’m setting up a straw man. You don’t believe life is supposed to be a “vale of tears”, do you?

Hyatt often comes across like a former student of engineering. Like Elfayed in The Invisibles -- (paraphrasing here) “I am not interested in your Messianic delusions, my young friend, nor am I interested in your fantastic hallucinations. I am a practical man.” Do you want to be (*cough*, *spit*) an Illuminated Master -- or do you want to learn how to fly the plane?

That psychological profile of George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein really cheered me up when I read it – I think it was partly the way they were referred to as “George” and “Saddam” the whole way through. The essay left me feeling relieved somehow. I’m not sure this is a good thing.

[rot] According to one of the forewords to RAW’s Wilhelm Reich In Hell, Israel Regardie had some friendly correspondence with Wilhelm Reich himself. The only correspondence with Eva Reich that the foreword refers to is a letter from her asking that Regardie refrain from publishing anything to do with Orgone while her Dad was in jail.[/rot]
 
 
Bastard Shit Man
14:42 / 31.07.03
Speaking of Grant Morrison comics, I wouldn’t be surprised if The Psychopath’s Bible and Christopher Hyatt were significant influences on Morrison’s recent stuff. The Filth, New X-Men, the FF mini-series – and maybe going back to Volume 3 of Invisibles, I suppose. What do you think?
 
 
illmatic
10:10 / 01.08.03
BSM (curious name, BTW ) – I think my comments above aren’t that great, pretty dismissive and flippant really - after all, they’re based on slagging off a book I haven’t read, and someone I’m prejudging from a few sentences about (Jack Willis, I mean). I just read his statement as being a little bit grandiose, that’s all - and the comments about man being the centre of everything and concern with ecology being for freaks really got up my nose.

With the “happiness” thing – yep, I pretty much agree with all your comments. Maturity certainly shouldn’t be equated with giving up happiness and playfulness, not at all. It’s just the context of statement - If I’d read someone like, say, Carl Rogers say “unhappiness is an accident”, I’d be inclined to be a lot more sympathetic toward it. It’s the fact it’s part of a (IMO) quite an aggressive and annoying statement which is part of the blurb for The friggin’ Psychopath’s Bible, that made me turn my nose up at it.

Having said that - I still think you can critique that notion. I’m going to generalise hugely here from his original 4 words, and probably go a million miles away from what he originally meant - but it reminded me of some NLP/self-help stuff I’ve read which seems to push “happiness” as kind of permanent state, with the implication that you’re failing if you’re not happy and positive all the time. Doesn’t seem a very subtle view of the psyche to me. I mean, would you feel happy making this statement to a manic depressive? Surely melancholy, depression, unhappiness all have a part to play and can be educative experiences in their own right? Any thoughts?
 
 
Bastard Shit Man
12:05 / 02.08.03
“The Empire of Chairs” makes me blub whenever I read it. A couple of times I’ve deliberately taken Raymond Briggs’s “Ethel and Ernest” from the shelf just to skip to the last, heart-breaking, few pages of the book – Sob! blub! And – Kate Bush’s – “Moments of Pleasure”, mwahh! Boo- hoo! And – the last scene of “Meet John Doe” – with – mnuh ahuh- ahuh – yer man standing on the edge of the building and – and the snow coming down and – nuhh ahuh bhwah !

…That kind of thing aside, though – “Cry when you have to, laugh when you can,” strikes me as sane advice. (Mad Tom being the other cameo role for Doctor H in The Invisibles?)

When it comes down to it, I like crying sometimes because it makes me feel good.

A Chris Ware comic, on the other hand, just leaves me feeling depressed. I’ve had enough (*gag*, *retch*) melancholy for one life, thank you. (*spit*)

I appreciate where you’re coming from, Illmatic. But subtlety can be overrated, for me. There’s a time and a place for it.

Getting back to The Psychopath’s Bible and Christopher Hyatt’s writing style, etc. – I came across this line while browsing through it today:

“But under no circumstances should you undervalue the power of knowing how to evaluate the power of food-chain consciousness.”

WTF? “Under no circumstances under-value…the power of knowing…how to evaluate…the power…” ?!? Is this some kind of Eriksonian thing?

Lionheart: What does Hyatt mean by "psychopath"?

Well, it seems that “everyone is a psychopath”, according to Nicholas Tharcher’s foreword.

But (pace Phil Hine) the barmy “Satan tells me to dismember prostitutes” type of psychopath isn’t what they have mind. While “Red Dragon” and “Silence of the Lambs” are on the recommended reading list, they seem to have aspects of the character of Hannibal Lecter M.D. in mind rather than the Tooth Fairy or Buffalo Bill.

We’re assured that neither the publisher nor the author wish to condone the initiation of any kind of violence at all, at all.

inanimate voyeur mentioned the movies “Point Break” and “Butch Cassidy”. Others they liked a lot include “Point of No Return” (that’s “The Assassin” to those of us in the UK and Ireland), the Charles Bronson movie “The Mechanic”, and “The Thomas Crown Affair”. The books “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountainhead” are also recommended (but I’m pretty sure Ayn Rand would have been…um… uncomfortable with Hyatt’s moral stanceJ).

By psychopath they mean “the rare individual who writes his own song, plays his own tune and lives his own life”. Sounds nice! But wait… they specifically mean to refer to the kind of individual who “encourages the human race to the precipice”. Oo-er! The kind of person who [sinister music begins to rise in background] “does what he can to help the species destroy itself and let nature get on with something(s) different.” Gulp. Ha-ha! That Dr. Hyatt, eh? What a kidder! Ha-ha! No, you really love everyone, don’t you, Doc? Don’t you?

…Well, you at least love me, don’t you?

Doc?

Alex Burns, I think, did a disinfo.com piece on the book. You should be able to find it in the old disinfo archives. And there was some discussion of the book a year or so ago on the taciturn “quant-psych” yahoo-group. Search the group archive. (The most recent posts on quant-psych have concerned The Psychopath’s Bible too. Synchronicity? Or are agents of New Falcon attempting to drum up interest in the book as the new edition is about to hit the shelves? inanimate voyeur, j’accuse!)
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
13:02 / 02.08.03
WTF? “Under no circumstances under-value…the power of knowing…how to evaluate…the power…” ?!? Is this some kind of Eriksonian thing?

I'd put my money on poor sentence construction.

By psychopath they mean “the rare individual who writes his own song, plays his own tune and lives his own life”.

funny, my dictionary says "a person afflicted with a personality disorder which causes him or her to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts"
 
 
Ria
16:47 / 02.08.03
you all may moralize about Hyatt ripping people off. however he does make his living off those books.

that said, wow, the ad copy of that "Chaochamber" CD on the site... depressing. though I don't that Hyatt runs New Falcon it seems like total new age-ism to me.

as for this "unhappiness is an accident" the first alternative to leapt to my mind had to do with unhappiness as caused by the person. part of the difficulty in talking about happiness and unhappiness has to do with the vagueness of the words. does "happy" mean feeling more good than bad or does it mean elated and does that mean for an afternoon or a lifetime. for example.
 
 
Ria
16:48 / 02.08.03
new age-ism: pop the CD in the player and leave the magic to us. do not create, buy.
 
 
Ria
16:59 / 02.08.03
Saddam Hussein an "anti-social paranoid schizophrenic"? oh geez..
 
 
The Knights Templar Boogie Machine
01:37 / 03.08.03
Who'd trust a man with a beard like that anyway?
 
 
Bastard Shit Man
00:02 / 07.08.03
By psychopath they mean “the rare individual who writes his own song, plays his own tune and lives his own life”.

GL: funny, my dictionary says "a person afflicted with a personality disorder which causes him or her to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts"


I think they’re maybe trying to claim the word for themselves and re-define it, a bit like others have done with the words “bitch” and “queer”.

Tharcher quotes the dictionary too, and then the DSMV-IV, and W.H.O. material. Raising his eyebrow at various bits. “Psychopaths disregard the wishes and feelings of others…fail to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviour.”

The toxick magic they go on about in the book is a kind of a martial art where you defeat your enemy through “non-resistance” – you destroy them by helping them get what they want. And the title of the book could be seen as an example of that strategy: Society tries to enforce conformity by suggesting that those who go against society – or even those who just ignore it – are “psychopaths”; but rather than arguing with this, or protesting the injustice of it, Hyatt and Tharcher say “alright so, let’s call ourselves psychopaths”. Toxick effects ensue?

...I’ve heard psychiatrists refer to “Mach types” (Mach as in Machiavelli)… I haven’t read any Machiavelli, but I feel a little bit uncomfortable with the implication that a particular philosophical position is evidence of pathology. I don’t know, I suppose I’m being all PC about it…
 
  
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