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Is this a world gone health and safety mad?

 
 
Mr Messy
10:52 / 28.07.03
I was shocked and dismayed to read this story.

Surely hard hats protect you from small objects falling from above, rather than your head moving towards larger objects, like the ground for instance. And more importantly, its a trapeze act. Isn't that supposed to be about death defying feats to stun and amaze?

Who will be penalised next? Nelly the elephant; denied the heady pleasures of peanuts and sticky buns, just in case she should accidentily squirt one from her trunk at an allergic or, heaven forfend, obese member of the audience?
 
 
Hattie's Kitchen
10:57 / 28.07.03
It's Health & Safety gone MAAAADDD...

I read a story about some snack company in the US that made packets of peanuts, with the safety warning: "Warning: this product may contain nuts".
 
 
spidermonkey
11:18 / 28.07.03
Not quite health and safety but related madness nonetheless....

My American cousin and some friends were frolicking naked in their front garden through a sprinkler and had the police called on them for indecent exposure!

The madness being that my cousin and her friends were 2 years old at the time!
 
 
pomegranate
13:37 / 28.07.03
i don't think it's health and safety mad as much as it is litigation mad.
my hairdryer came w/instructions that read in part "do not use while sleeping."
 
 
Unencumbered
13:43 / 28.07.03
My motorcycle's manual warns that the bike contains no edible parts.

Tell that to that French guy who's eaten a light aircraft among other things.
 
 
that
14:22 / 28.07.03
People, people - where are your 'stories of ill-advised nail-biting spontaneous splendour'?

I ran down Ben Nevis once (well, about two thirds of the way down - the top portion was so treacherous, foggy and slippy, that we couldn't have started running at the summit. The day we were up there, two people fell off and died). In boots that were one and a half sizes too big. That was ill-advised, I suspect (though there is an official yearly race up and down), and should have been quite nail-biting, but it was one of the most truly fantastically amazing experiences of my life - better than skydiving, and I still get a rush thinking about it.
 
 
Mr Messy
15:24 / 28.07.03
Thank you Cholister for noticing the abstract, and providing such a fantastic story. People fell off and died!

Next....
 
 
spidermonkey
15:38 / 28.07.03
Ahhhhhh! The abstract.........
I had a nail-biting moment whilst in an open jeep in the middle of an Indian jungle. One of the young lads driving decided to test his elephant mating call, not realising that we had two elephants hidden in the undergrowth either side of us. It was a bit like that moment in Jurassic park.
Actually come to think of it someone died that time too. Crushed by an elephant.
 
 
w1rebaby
17:32 / 28.07.03
Above my computer is a sign which bears the legend "Electricity can KILL!", to which I say, "Well it can also boil a kettle, which do you prefer?"

Well, I like my kettles unboiled, personally. I prefer boiled water within an unboiled kettle.
 
 
mus
17:42 / 28.07.03
But surely you would still prefer a molten kettle to fatal electrocution??? I quite enjoy boiling up a few kettles.
 
 
Mr Messy
08:33 / 29.07.03
Grrr.

I've had a bit of an obsessive thing going on with kettles for many a year now. I'm always a bit anxious that I'll turn the kettle on and it will explode due to lack of water.
I think its the little water gauges. I can never put my trust in them.
 
 
Gary Lactus
10:28 / 29.07.03
Has anyone come accross accident logs in the workplace? They're hilarious. I used to work as a photocopy boy at a vitamin company. The accident log that hung in the kitchen providedc amusement, all these reports of people bumping their heads and cutting their fingers. Kind of like You've Been Framed. Entering fictional accidents such as ,"Incident: Fraely beheaded by nasty paper cut. Action taken: Plaster applied from first aid box." kept me from biting people's heads off too much. Why not try this in YOUR workplace.
 
 
alas
12:56 / 29.07.03
Okay, 2 things: 1) This is neither an antidote to safety madness nor exactly safety madness, but the whole boiling kettles thing brought this dadaist warning to mind. For some reason, my fridge came with a butter dish--flat, plastic, white--you know, for holding sticks of butter? On the bottom it says "DO NOT BOIL."

2) When I was about 12, my family went to Hawaii [Side note: We lived in a rented, run-down old house (my room would drop to 40 degrees farenheit at night in winter), drove used cars til they dropped, and listened to 8-tracks into the CD era, but my parents believed in travel.] and we went to a beach that was famous for surfing. The surf was high, and difficult to manage, especially for Iowans, who strangely lack experience with high surf (go figure). So we were out there trying to body surf, with no guides or help or anything of course, and a man came up to my dad, on shore, and said it was a very dangerous beach and that the surf that day was especially dangerous, some experienced surfers had died like the week before. Dad called us in and I broke my tailbone being slammed onto the sand, and felt a serious undertow for the first time in my life. I remember being trapped under the water, watching it all slide over me, and not being able to get up to the surface--being pinned down by the pull of the water. Luckily, I did eventually make it out. But it was rather harrowing. Moreso, in fact, than boiling kettles, I think.
 
 
ibis the being
13:23 / 29.07.03
alas - I grew up on an island & have had that experience of getting slammed by the surf... I remember being dragged across the sand, under all that water - my eyes were open. I was a little kid but knew (instinctively?) to just protect my face and wait until the wave subsided and jump out before the next one hit. Scary. Didn't scare me off swimming though.
 
 
A
14:17 / 29.07.03
Kids' Superman-type capes now often bear the legend "WARNING: Does not enable wearer to fly." I didn't make that up.
 
 
Hieronymus
14:51 / 29.07.03
My personal favorite: DO NOT STOP CHAINSAW WITH HAND OR GENITALS.

Which makes you wonder just how epidemic it was that they had to put a warning label up.
 
 
Linus Dunce
22:02 / 29.07.03
Not my line, but "they should take the safety stickers off everything and let the problem sort out itself."

Not really safety related again, but does anyone else find the content advisories that have recently appeared on movie posters in the UK really annoying? "Contains mild violence and language." Imagine that! Mild violence in a movie! And what the fuck is mild language? Is Hans Moleman the fucking lead? Jesus Christ, give me the strength not to hunt down the neurasthenic old harpies that suggested this bollocks and inflicting some serious action fantasy violence on their feeble-minded, illiterate, quivering arses.
 
 
Seth
22:19 / 29.07.03
An old colleague told me an absolutely hilarious story about the H & S rep where I used to work...

Apparently he was using a stanley knife (box cutter for the Yanks) to clean the fake cobwebs out of an office fan the day after the Halloween party last year. Something went wrong, and the fan turned on, making the blade slice up his forearm along the artery, spraying blood into another employee's face, which in turn made him vomit all over his PC!

Utter genius.
 
 
Mr Tricks
22:24 / 29.07.03
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
00:06 / 30.07.03
"An antidote to a world gone safety mad", eh? Okay, then, here's my story of ill-advised nail-biting splendour.

All my employment has been of a temporary or casual nature, mostly via agencies. Over the course of my working life, I can think of two, maybe three bookings where anyone in the client company gave a flying fuck about H&S. My favourite stories? All the times I worked in offices where they could afford monogrammed carpets and corporate screensavers but not adequate seating, so that I had to spend my working day either kneeling at my desk, bent over it, or squatting on a couple of crates. That's if I had a desk and not just one corner of an unfurnished office to curl up in. The really funny part about that story is, my right arm sustained permanent nerve damage from all this crap! I'm in near-constant pain and I'm never going to regain all the feeling in my hand! What a side-splitter, eh?

Then-- oh, and this one's really funny-- there was the electronics firm that had me soldering for eight hours a day plus overtime with no proper ventilation! I had my face in a cloud of lead and resin fumes all day! Some of the componants were covered in thick insulating varnish that got burned off during soldering, and the fumes were so toxic they made me puke!

Then there was the place where I had to work machines that drilled metal every day. I was surrounded by swarf and handling sharp metal items, but my supervisor made me take off my protective gloves so that I could work faster! And they didn't supply overalls so I got covered with coolant fluid every day! And it was an irritant, so I used to itch all over! And it's carcinogenic! I'm chuckling just to think of it, really.

The hilarious part of all this is that most of these employers had their contracts set up so that I was technically self-employed, and therefore responsible for providing my own protective crap and whatever. Plus I'd have a hell of a time sueing any one of these companies if my health fucks up-- they can just blame each other!

But if you want an antidote to this health-and-safetey mad world, here's a tale to tickle yer funnybone.

You'll laugh your head off.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
00:18 / 30.07.03
Sorry, that all came out a lot meaner than I meant. I don't like to delete it, but I should apologise. I'm not angry at the originator of the thread, rather at the perception that we in the West live in an ultrasafe, nanny-ish society, when the truth rather different. Companies are afraid of litigation by the wealthy few, while the vast majority can expect to risk their health and even their lives on a daily basis.

In one of the no-chair-having posts, I was employed to sift through old personnel files for some particular piece of info-- I don't reacll what. In one box, I found a letter from a former employee regarding a H&S concern that was preying on her mind. Squatting in the unfurnished basement, wearing my coat because there was no heat down there and wondering vaugely if my last booking had sorted out their asbestos problem yet, I read about how the doorknob in this woman's office was rather stiff and she feared getting RSI.

Says it all, really.
 
 
fluid_state
02:27 / 30.07.03
make your own labels:Something Awful is rarely "work-safe"

Thanks to Mordant for the other(value-added) side of the coin. Makes me wonder, though, if one isn't related to the other; that by being inundated with ridiculous warnings causes (in part) a compensation effect, to the tune of Mordant's hellish work experiences. When you can successfully sue a company because coffee is hot, cheap measures are taken to protect corporations from similar fiscally embarrassing occurences. But there seems to be no onus on a company to protect workers from damages caused by long-term strain, or from potential damages due to increased productivity(at the cost of safety). These things are moe difficult to prove in court, and can be guarded against through legal chicanery.

Anyway, the two seem at odds. Big difference between Mordant's experiences and a the aforementioned "this chainsaw is not a sex-toy" warning. Some things are plain as day, it's just damnned depressing when a culture tries to pretend day is night. In the case of the chainsaw, well, it's worth a laugh, problem solved. In the other, the problem sounds like an institutionalized procedure.
my apologies, Im not quite coherent today...
 
 
Saveloy
10:53 / 30.07.03
Ignatius_J:

"Not really safety related again, but does anyone else find the content advisories that have recently appeared on movie posters in the UK really annoying?"

I love the one for the new Rugrats vs. Wild Thornberrys movie: Contains scenes of mild peril

Where else would you see such a lovely old-fashioned word like 'peril'? "Quick, put the safety doily over Aunt Agatha's face, there's a scene of mild peril coming up."
 
 
Mr Messy
11:28 / 30.07.03
Yikes Mordant, I'm not surprised you're angry. And no need to apologise. Your experiences and the link you provided tell me everything I need to know.

What got me started was the article about the trapeze artists. To me, it seems that risk is inherent in what they do, perhaps part of the reason they do it is because of a death defying thrill. So to enforce hard hats, which seem so ineffectual anyway is just madness. I was trying to be clever and funny when posting, so expanded the thread to include safety in general. But there is nothing funny about the exploitation of workers and the negligance of employers.

It kind of reminds me of watching comedy on TV as a boy. If there was a joke about someone dying or whatever, I'd not get it. I'd think, well what about that person who died, or the people they left behind? It wasn't funny, just terrifying.

Just a thought, callous - a hardening of the skin/emotions.

So, that's my apology to you.
 
  
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