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BATMAN: DEAD END...(spoilers)

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Mr Tricks

22:15 / 23.07.03

Well this may be mentioned over in the comics forum but I did a search here and I figured if you haven't heard about it and are curious, you should go here and check it out while it's still available!!!

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I thought it was pretty great, especially considering the "do-it-yourself" mentality that drove this project...
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Axel Lambert

09:43 / 24.07.03

That was weird. Batman & The joker looked really good, but the dialogue was indeed pepsi-ad quality. And the twist... My god.

deja_vroom

12:30 / 24.07.03

What's the story? How come no one is talking about it? How was it made? who made it? Oh, wait, is that a link?

Foust is SO authentic

12:44 / 24.07.03

Batman looks kind of... pudgy?

deja_vroom

13:19 / 24.07.03

No, he looks great (I tell right out that the scene where he kneels, then slowly stands up, his cape receding closer to his body is probably the BEST scene with the Batman in the screen I've EVER seen. With the classical soundtrack, it was just CREEPY!). But... what the heck? Alien? Predator? Bleh...

Sax

14:00 / 24.07.03

I think maybe someone should put "spoilers" in the title of this thread now...

videodrome

15:34 / 24.07.03

Nah. If anyone really cares that the 'surprise' of having the Joker inexplicably pulled out of frame by an Alien is blown, well...

It's like claiming 'spoilers' for a commercial, since this is nothing but an ad for the filmmakers.

Visually, it's a great Bats. Physically the actor is perfect, and the suit is nice. Some wonderfully iconic moments in there, too. But the dialogue? Asinine. I was hoping that the only spoken noise would be the Joker's cackling.

Matthew Fluxington

16:09 / 24.07.03

Oh my god. That film is HIDEOUS.

Ugh.

Who the hell gave these hacks the money to make this fanboy wank fantasy?

deja_vroom

16:25 / 24.07.03

I think it was self-produced... kind of like and ad for their work. Even though it looks great, you notice there were severe budget restrictions, which makes you think they probably could pull off some great eye-candy with more time & money... someone pass Alan Moore's number to them, quick! If someone can make a super-hero flick as short as this really interesting, it's him...

videodrome

16:33 / 24.07.03

which makes you think they probably could pull off some great eye-candy with more time & money...

Who couldn't? Go see LXG,for chrissake. Eye-candy is easy. An interesting script, on the other hand...

deja_vroom

16:46 / 24.07.03

No no no. Great eye candy, not mere eye candy. Joel Schumacher's Batman flicks had biiig budget eye-candy, neon stuff, shiny metal thingys, carefully crafted weapons... and it looked shit, shit, shit. These guys, on the other hand, seem to have good taste, and are digging the right sources - Alex Ross etc...

Incidentally, I know a word that can help you better understand my point: NIPPLES!

Matthew Fluxington

16:59 / 24.07.03

Are you guys out of yr minds? These guys would make AWFUL movies. It seems pretty obvious that they've been raised on a diet of nothing but crappy event movies and shitty comics, and want to make movies that pander to the Wizard/Ain't It Cool News crowd.

I don't trust any filmmaker who would allow such pathetic dialogue to make it to the screen. The people who made this are clearly rich fanboys with too much free time. I've got no respect for these people.

deja_vroom

17:07 / 24.07.03

Good for them, then, that they don't need it.

deja_vroom

17:20 / 24.07.03

But, ok, no one is saying that these people are the smartest writers to ever tackle the super-hero subject. It's just that, hey, they fucking captured perfectly how fucking batman fucking should fucking look in any fucking decent movie trying to fucking take itself fucking seryously, fuck. Film directors don't necessarily WRITE scripts!

I know I would not trust them enough to give them a typewriter, but when it comes to production, I would consider them first that any of the self-absorbed idiots that have been doing shitty super-hero movies like The Hulk.

(btw, Ang Lee, if you're reading this: YOU CAN EAT MY PURPLE PANTS, you fucking moron!)

videodrome

17:24 / 24.07.03

Well, I'm certainly looking at this differently now.

Hieronymus

18:09 / 24.07.03

Bwa ha ha ha ha!! That's the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. The Alien snatching Joker bit had me on the floor.

Other than the Eliot Goldenthal and Alan Silvestri score thefts, lots of shadows and a little rain fighting, there's nothing at all worthwhile about this thing. Except its snicker value.

They loved this thing at ComicCon?

CameronStewart

18:36 / 24.07.03

Yeah, the San Diego crowd apparently went nuts, but of course they would. It's nerd central.

There's one or two nice shots in it, but on the whole it's pretty lame. TERRIBLE actors and dialogue.

I find it funny that they spent so much money making a film to use as a demo reel/calling card, and there's not a single original idea in the entire thing....

videodrome

19:09 / 24.07.03

That's Hollywood for you.

bio k9

20:49 / 24.07.03

At least the Batman costume looked nice.

Catjerome

23:34 / 24.07.03

*spoilerz*

it was pretty damned funny when the Alien grabbed the Joker.

And then it just kept going.

After Predator took out the Alien, I kept expecting more and more weird shit to show up and take each other out.

It looked great, but was there a point to it? Why did they make it?

Red Cross Iodized Salt

01:54 / 25.07.03

It's basically a showreel for Sandy Collora (the guy who directed it). I IMDB'd him and it looks like he's been involved in creature design for sci-fi / horror films for a few years. I thought the screenshots above looked great but the film itself was pretty bad. Fanboy wank indeed.

Oh yeah, it looks like the guy who played the joker is Walter Koenig's son.

ONLY NICE THINGS

09:05 / 26.07.03

After Predator took out the Alien, I kept expecting more and more weird shit to show up and take each other out.

That would have been funny. I was thinking the same thing...
Cyberman kills Predator!

Dalek kills Cyberman!

Ulysses 31 kills Dalek!

Voldemort kills Ulysses 31!

Bear wrestles Shark!

GODZILLA DESTROYS GOTHAM!

That is entertainment. This is a series of people being thrown against the same stunt wall.

Mike-O

02:39 / 27.07.03

The Predator fight was mildly remenicent of that age-old series with Kubert and Dixon, if I remember correctly... make a movie out of THAT, and you'll have my money in spades.... Hahahah.... oh for the love of Christ,I know the short is utterly rediculous, but you can't help but admit that it kills "Batman and Robin". So in the end what's more disturbing??? What, I ask you?

Maddness!!!!!!

Foust is SO authentic

11:38 / 27.07.03

Good god, are you people utterly incapable of enjoying a Batman vs. Predator short for no other reason than it features Batman vs. a Predator?

Do any of you ever smile throughout your dreary days?

ONLY NICE THINGS

11:50 / 27.07.03

Because if we do not like things the way you like things, there is something wrong with us. Our lives must be empty and dreer.

Yes, dear. Funnily enough, many people here seem capable of discussing a film on its merits, rather than how people who didn't like it must just be grinches. Try.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

15:49 / 27.07.03

10 points from Barbelith house for upsetting Dr Jade Sharko and Foust.

Mike-O

03:00 / 28.07.03

No doubt, Ace... Hehhee.....

But could one truly ask for more than Predator and Batman sharing screentime? I wasn't kidding about wanting to see that Gibbons story made into a movie, either....

Matthew Fluxington

03:53 / 28.07.03

I truly resent the implication that some of us may be borecore because we don't like shitty, too-expensive fanfic movies which ammounts to little more than "What if ____ fought _____? That'd be COOL!"

Coming up with yr own damn characters = more joycore than making the expensive film version of a little kid playing with his action figures. Unless, that is, they really embraced that and had the Batman Vs. Predator fight in a giant bathroom sink.

deja_vroom

11:47 / 28.07.03

Dalek kills Cyberman!

Ulysses 31 kills Dalek!

Voldemort kills Ulysses 31!

Bear wrestles Shark!

GODZILLA DESTROYS GOTHAM!

Actually, I was expecting Terminator and Robocop to show up. Well, you can't have everything...

Matthew Fluxington

14:30 / 28.07.03

Actually, where the fuck were Darth Vader and Boba Fett?

Our Lady of The Two Towers

16:09 / 28.07.03

With Peter O'Hanra'hanrahan narrating the action in a Raymond Burr stylee from a nearby window?

deja_vroom

16:12 / 28.07.03

...And Aragorn and Samwise Gamgi?

Mister Six, whom all the girls

23:55 / 28.07.03

Daleks are in this???