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The MI5 Insignia and Freemasonry

 
 
Spaniel
21:28 / 19.07.03
Not sure if this is the right forum, but...



Okay, all you occultists, can anyone deconstruct this little beauty?
 
 
Aethelwine Jedi
14:25 / 20.07.03
Oh yay! It's the Eye of Horus! Again.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:32 / 20.07.03
Cunning pun on eye and I, too...
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
19:24 / 20.07.03
Funny how that pops up everywhere, isn't it, Jedi?
Coincidentially, "m" is the 13th letter of the alphabet, "i" the 9th, 13+9=22, and the roman numeral "V" is the 22nd letter...
Either that, or my math's wrong.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
21:17 / 20.07.03
Because they chose to use v for five the MIV is a number in Roman Numerals: 1004.

What does EIIR mean? Exoterically and or esoterically
 
 
Aethelwine Jedi
21:37 / 20.07.03
Someone should make a library or something with pictures of all the places where the Eye has popped up. Maybe someone already has, I dunno. The closest thing I've seen so far is this.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
22:29 / 20.07.03
I don't know if it was a pisstaking question, but EIIR would presumably refer to Elizabeth Regina II - or the Queen.
 
 
doctorbeck
08:10 / 21.07.03
that would be the queen, the head of the british freemasons

andrew
 
 
Jub
08:17 / 21.07.03
Rothkoid - that would be the cheifest wisdom

BoBossboy - you didn't happen to stumble across this on bilderberg.org did you? The word spurious comes to mind.

MI5 have a completely different one on their website.
http://www.mi5.gov.uk/
 
 
Char Aina
11:36 / 21.07.03
i'm fairly sure that the symbol in the centre is supposed to be a crown.
 
 
The Fetch
22:32 / 22.07.03
This one is a classic piece of Isisian Encryptian and is a piece of cake to solve

To see my original posting on this seal, you can go to here.

The post will be number 8 of the thread. You can go their to get the full graphical representation including the cipher of Venus.

However, here is the post less the graphical representations..originally posted around 2/27/2002, and preserved in "The Fetch's Podium" at Circle of the Moon, a depository of early "Fetch" writings:

As originally posted:
_________________________________

MIV and the Word

Here is another concept, this one about Adam and Eve.

Within the Isisian Codes, and indeed within the Illuminatus equally, there is a concept known as 5=6.

The Illuminatus encodes the concept as such, seeking to off "The Master Number of 11"

1=10
2=9
3=8
4=7
5=6

You can find the above is some Illuminatus Sermons which are deceptively passed out to the Initiated "faithful", whom themselves really do not have the ability to pierce the deceptions. Indeed, even the priests who give these sermons may actually think they know what they are talking about.

Nice try, I always thought, but that is hardly the inspiration. The concept, as most of the ancient codes, is derived from Isis and the Isisian Codes.

(Insert picture of Isisian Code Matrix here)
123456789-1234567
ABCDEFGHI-JKLMNOP
QRSTUVWXY

1=J=10
2=K=11
3=L=12
4=M=13
5=N=14
6=O=15
7=P=16

The "7-Up" Letters is indeed the source behind the drink "7-up" and can be further seen encoded into the Seal of the British Intelligence Services, or MI-V, aka, MI-5.

(Insert Picture of MI-V as shown above here)

You will notice that there are 9 diadems on each side of the crown, representing the 9 Letters of A-I and Q-Y, conclusive. The "7-Up Letters" are the 7 diadems from the Center.

The first 5 from the bottom to the top are J,K,L,M,N. The Sixth is the large diadem, which is the Letter O, or the Egg, or the Goddess, and so the cross attached to the diadem is really a cipher for the Sign of Venus, or the Goddess of Love, Ishtar, Isis, etc.

(Insert inverted symbol of Venus here)

Then, the last diadem at the top, the SEVENTH DOT so to speak, is the cipher for the Letter P, with an I on the TOP, forming the word PI.

Then we see in the Center the Letters:

EIIR

The M in the Lower Left is raised to the right of the E, to form the EM IIR, and then the V in the lower right, symbolic of the Letter E (Roman Numeral V = 5 = E), is raised to the right of the R, to form the word

EM II RE

The Center is the GREEK LETTER PI, which then forms the word:

EM PI RE, or

EMPIRE.

The Letter U is the Sum of 6 (1+2+3+4+5+6=21=U), and is called a 6
The Letter K sums to 66, hence the UK is a cipher for 666.

This then shows the aspect of the Gods themselves, or

PI and 666.

.....end of part regarding the Seal of British Intelligence

The Fetch
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
08:06 / 23.07.03
Do bear in mind that this badge could also be a massive piece of misdirection. MI5 was founded in 1909, and occult symbolology was very much the thing. It's not unthinkable that the badge is fraught with meaning purely because it would keep people busily looking for occult significance when they were supposed to be doing less harmless things.
 
  
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