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KPMG can just fuck off - but you play nice.

 
 
Not Here Still
15:42 / 04.12.01
Righty-ho then.

I was reading the eminently perusable plasticbag.org, Tom's blog, the other day, when he linked to this e-mail by a guy who had linked to the KPMG corporation on his site.

(At the moment, the site is very difficult to get to - but here's a Metafilter thread on it all.)

Basically, the story goes that this guy put the link up, and KPMG sent him a worrying e-mail, the gist of which was: "Please be aware such links require that a formal Agreement exist between our two parties, as mandated by our organization's Web Link Policy."

Or, in other words, do not link to KPMG's website unless they say so.

Sorry, that is KPMG's website which you are not supposed to link to.

Wouldn't you say that for a company to have such a policy kind of goes against freedom of speech? Or indeed, for anyone who has that sort of policy.

I link all the time on here - because I want to show people what I'm talking about. So imagine if I had to ask people whether or not I could do anything first.

Wouldn't that kind of hamper my ability to discuss and comment on things online?

Well, balls to that.

[note: It's fair to bet that KPMG are going to be a bit sniffy about this - so try not to say anything libellous about them. But hell, link 'em - especially on your blogs. If you haven't already.]

Still timing out - he must be getting tons of hits at the moment. Or sued by KPMG
 
 
Fist Fun
16:57 / 04.12.01
I just think this is laughable. Whoever sent out the e-mail has a very tenuous grasp of PR, technology and modern communications. I would be very suprised if KPMG don't totally disown this and place the blame on a maverick individual or department. It is just comical, perhaps it was even a rival company that sent it. It just seems to lack any understanding of how the modern world works.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:13 / 05.12.01
So presumerably, if someone came to me in my library and asked for directions to a KMPG office, I wouldn't be able to give it to them, on exactly the same principle.
 
 
Not Here Still
16:45 / 05.12.01
Course you would - you'd just have to ask them first.

Do you think Google asked about all these?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
17:58 / 07.12.01
Tom's Blog get's a mention...
Wired Article

And it's all about...
 
 
Not Here Still
16:16 / 08.12.01
Bit more from the man who started the row...

What was the row all about again?

Oh yeah, someone wanting to try and stop people on-line linking to other web sites without agreement - which would fundamentally alter the nature of the internet

Which people don't seem that interested in talking about.

Ho hum.

-Which company was it again? Was it KPMG?

-Er - who? Did you say KPMG?

-Sorry, was that KPMG?

- Yes, that's right. We're talking about KPMG.
 
 
Tom Coates
17:17 / 08.12.01
Hey - I'm always interested in talking about this subject...

Basically the big fight is not that an individual company might have a legal right to ask people not to link to them, but that if they HAD that right then any organisation that didn't check every link they placed on a site would be in a legally dubious position.

This may sound trivial, but this would extend to fundamentals of the internet like search engines - which of course would not be able to run at all. Basically, the freedom to hyperlink without asking is fundamental to the internet working at all... If you wanted to institute a policy whereby you were legally required to remove a link when asked to... well that's another matter, and might even have some legal basis - particularly if a link (say from slashdot or similar) caused such a huge increase in traffic that high bandwidth bills could be seen to result from it...
 
  
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