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Debt! How far can you go?

 
 
Strange Machine Vs The Virus with Shoes
23:13 / 12.07.03
How much debt can one accumulate before the net closes in. You know the saying “if you owe the bank £1,000 you are in trouble, if you owe them £1,000,000, they are in trouble”. When do the alarm bells in financial institutions start ringing? Can you borrow say, 15 thou, from every bank, get as many credit cards as possible and several overdrafts then leave the country, maybe flee to Russia and change your identity, or is the global financial security net too big. If you did attempt to get loans from every bank, are they all connected so they could see what you were doing?

If one was to spend, say a month, getting credit, maybe buying a property and getting more home owner loans, then channelling the surplus into Swiss bank accounts and disappearing. Or is your family liable if you do this? I don’t know much about this type of stuff, which is why these ideas may sound so outlandish. Advice appreciated.
 
 
Linus Dunce
00:23 / 13.07.03
Computers are powerful things. If you pay from a Joe-Blow account into a Swiss bank account, alarm bells will ring. If you draw off cash from a sizable loan account, while abroad, alarm bells will ring.

Every morning before breakfast and every evening before "lights out," alarm bells will ring.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:44 / 13.07.03
It's like a casino: the house always wins.

Unless you're Barings.
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
10:43 / 13.07.03
It's like a casino: the house always wins.

To a degree, yes. The age-old student art of fleecing financial institutions is, certainly in the UK, remarkably simple so long as you have at least a superficial knowledge of how they work. Keep any borrowing to under £2,500 from each institution (since, IIRC, the limit at which institutions can apply for greater powers to chase debtors starts at something like £2,500). Ensure any addresses you give when providing proof of your habitat are rented, and make sure you leave within 6 months (generally the overdue period when you start getting bailiff threats). And remember the golden rule that dominates lending in the UK; a debt can legally exist for only 6 years from the point of last contact with the debtor. If you owe a bank a couple of thousand which you never pay back, after 6 years the debt must legally be wiped (although you'll never get an account from them again). And if they do catch up with you, just declare yourself bankrupt. The bankruptcy register for personal (i.e. non-business) debtors is only 2 years in the UK, after which all your rights to earn money without declaration of being bankrupt are restored and your credit record is wiped clean of the debts owed (although that the fact that you were bankrupt will remain).

That said, whilst all of this is feasible, it’s probably not a good idea to knowing get yourself into the horribly spirit-crushing existence that is being a debtor. Whilst it’s easy to avoid repayment, knowingly screwing financial institutions just seems a little like burning your bridges unnecessarily, especially as many institutions just choose to go down the easier route of slapping CCJs against your name, which is infinitely cheaper than paying tracing agents, and, ultimately, more damaging against you.
 
 
w1rebaby
11:56 / 13.07.03
is the global financial security net too big

I know from personal experience that my UK credit record didn't mean shit in the US. As long as you were to get loans from lenders mostly limited to individual countries, you'd probably be okay.

How long this situation will last, I don't know. I wouldn't fuck around with the credit record of any identity that I was planning to ever use again, and a complete change of identity would probably cost you more than you could borrow, unless it was millions, in which case they'd probably try to track you down anyway. It would be a difficult and time-consuming thing to do and probably ultimately unrewarding - you'd have to have another motive apart from just money.

An easier method would be to scam other companies and individuals rather than banks, who are used to people trying to scam them.
 
 
Jub
07:47 / 14.07.03
erm, wait a sec...
are your family liable? how easy is it to fleece banks? when do alarm bells start ringing? is the global security network too big?

Are you planning on doing a bunk?!
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
12:18 / 14.07.03
And remember the golden rule that dominates lending in the UK; a debt can legally exist for only 6 years from the point of last contact with the debtor.

Show me the law that says that. I know that it's a popular misconception that debts evaporate in Australia after that period (and we're based, largely, on the UK laws) but they don't.
 
  
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