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Tranquility Bay, 'behaviour-modification centre'.

 
  

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illmatic
07:18 / 18.07.03
Heres a link to the No more Prisions.

A review of Upski's book here. They might be a useful organisation to build some links with.

Here's an article by him: The Fear Economy
 
 
grant
15:38 / 11.11.03
A comment on my blog entry on Tranquility Bay today:

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Comments:

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:37 / 05.04.04
Just bumping this cos it's been brought up in the Convo...

and reading all that shit again makes me fucking sick.

Especially the part where the "independent" psychologist brought in to validate kids' incarceration goes on about how the adopted kid has to realise it's partly their fault...

You don't smuggle in weapons. You get yourself a fucking Apache and plough in there with Hellfires and shit, get the kids out, and don't rest until the place is razed to the fucking ground. (Partially joking.)
 
 
The Prince of All Lies
14:29 / 06.04.04
Illmatic, for another view on prisons you should check out some of Foucault's works on the subject, they're quite good...

I just wanted to say this makes me feel really sick. If there was one of those centres near where I live (luckily there aren't, or at least I don't know about them) I would seriously fuck with them. I'd go to the house of the company owner and kidnap him, then brainwash him with their same methods. Then I'd look for the parents and kick their asses or plant dope on them so they get caught by the police and raped by prison inmates, see how they like it.
I'm not really joking that much, I'd really fucking do it, I fucking hate those simple-minded, "holier than thou" cocksuckers, pardon my french.
 
 
Nobody's girl
14:38 / 06.04.04
Threadrot, please excuse me people-

Wasn't Foucault really into S&M? Not that there's anything wrong with that. I got the impression from my mum (she teaches psych and sociology) that Foucault was a touch biased on crime and punishment due to his proclivities.
 
 
Ex
16:53 / 06.04.04
[threadrot]
Actually, I think Foucault was kinky because of his critical theory. Rather than vice versa. To put it horrendously simplistically.
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Ganesh
23:26 / 06.04.04
Interesting to read this thread in conjunction with the Brat Camp one. Although the latter seems, on the face of it, a less overtly brutal regime (and is, I'll readily admit, must-see entertainment), the techniques are not dissimilar.

I've not been that aware of behaviour-modification centres in the UK. There is, however, a growing push (on the part of parents, schools and certain sectors of the media) to frame adult/child abrasion in terms of psychiatric illness, and demand a psychiatric remedy. British psychiatrists, on the whole, do their best to resist the constant pressure to prescribe (mostly Ritalin) but I suspect this is a feature of our healthcare structure - and if we operated within a private system, that particular 'gap in the market' would quickly be filled. There's certainly no shortage of parents willing to devolve the problem onto someone else...
 
 
Sobek
00:33 / 07.04.04

At the *VERY LEAST*, please see Hakim Bey's "Black Magic as Revolutionary Action" immediately.
 
 
grant
13:55 / 07.04.04
Why?
 
 
Jester
15:20 / 20.04.04
Jesus, that place is unbelievably creepy and scary. Kidnapping your kids. Fuck. Especially the description in the Observer article, about how the kids turn on each other, and the 'independent' psychologist talking about girls 'dressing provocatively' etc.

Sorry, not adding much I know, just venting.

Did anyone see the documentary on British TV a couple of years ago about reshaping your kids personalities at home, to get them to behave? It featured younger kids, I think, and involved things like removing everything that your kid had chosen from their environment/doors/privacy, and, again, 'physically restraining' them when they rebel from that. Not as creepy as the Tranquility Bay thing, just because it's not actually a prison, but along the same lines...
 
 
bjacques
14:04 / 21.04.04
My mom had (but thankfully, never used) a 1960s paperback called Miracles for Breakfast, which turned out to be by a Scientology housewife with 2 young kids. It was all "thetan" this and "reactive mind" that and ended with a rambling plea for the world to leave poor old L. Ron alone. It was just goofy.
 
 
black mask
14:26 / 21.04.04
Is it a coincidence that this thread reappeared as I posted my Martin Bryant thread? There's a sinister link, the Tavistock Institute. They've been developing mind control techniques since WWII.
 
 
grant
16:53 / 21.04.04
You have any links to resources on them?
 
 
black mask
21:17 / 21.04.04
Tavistock 1

Tavistock 2

Tavistock 3
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
06:50 / 22.04.04
Now, didn't you like it a whole lot better before, when you were just a little paranoid but the rest of the world was alright?

It's definately a blue pill moment. I can't believe this is really going on. I feel like I need to do something and for the life of me I can't think of a single goddam thing.
 
 
illmatic
08:19 / 22.04.04
I have some material at home which is critical of the role the Tavistock Institute is said to have played. They cite an alleged Playboy interview with John Lennon where he revealed the terrible truth about the TI - this never took place. Will post more when I have a chance. Not saying the material on your links is untrue, just that's it worth applying a critical eye.
 
 
the Fool
03:35 / 23.04.04
I'd just like to add my voice to the chorus of disgust and horror at the existence of these places. That parents pay large sums of money to have their spirits destroyed is abominable.
 
 
black mask
07:41 / 23.04.04
Could this be a 'mismanaged' example of attempted trauma-induced mind-control?
 
 
grant
19:39 / 07.09.07
These guys have surfaced again into the public consciousness - because one of the higher-ups has had to resign from the Romney presidential campaign amid child abuse allegations.

Lest we forget how powerful these guys can be.
 
 
diz
17:24 / 08.09.07
First Romney says:

"Some people say that we should close Guantanamo. My view is: We ought to double Guantanamo."

Now his big backers are tied to TB. There's a pattern here, and it's totally horrifying.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:20 / 10.09.07
Are a lot of these parents very rich?

If so, it makes me think very rich parents out making masses of money = can't have real relationships with their kids/put ridiculous pressure on kids to make masses of money = kids go, to some extent, delinquent (understandably, and mere "delinquency" doesn't justify prison) = market for TB opens up. Is that a workable model for how this flows?

Really horrible.
 
 
diz
20:35 / 10.09.07
Well, the school's relatively expensive. I don't know which would be more heartbreaking/infuriating/nauseating: the scenario you describe, or one in which parents are scrimping and saving and going into debt to send their kids off to be tortured "for their own good."
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:34 / 11.09.07
If it's one of these programmes or US prison, with all that implies for the child's immediate future, never mind the long-term, it's not hard to see why some of the parents involved might be prepared to take whatever measures were necessary, be it a loan, a sacrifice of the college fund, sale of a few choice shares or whatever, to avoid a jail term for the kid. Especially if work, and the relationship, weren't going too well for Mom or Dad; it must seem easier, and actually better, to pay for at least one of the problems to go away, for his or her own good.

There's been a lot in this thread about the criminilisation of adolescence, all of it right, I think. But another way of looking at this might be that responsible parenting is also being undermined, as an idea. If Junior is caught smoking, and drinking, and taking hard drugs like cannabis, there seems to be an implication that the parents involved have basically failed, and aren't up to the job. And so need to hand things over to the professionals, who really understand about what it takes to raise a child. The hard choices, etc.

What I find very difficult to understand is how the baby boomer types, presumably, who are sending their kids to these terrible places square it with their own experiences of adolescence? Fair enough 'don't get caught', but even if you are, you shouldn't be sent to a prison camp, surely? And especially not one that costs seventy grand a year.
 
  

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