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Sleep advice

 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
18:38 / 08.07.03
Annoyingly I tend to wake early in the morning, normally after whatever my body currently feels is the minimum amount of sleep it needs to do whatever it is bodies do when they're asleep. This is fine if it's a work or slob-at-home day but less brilliant if I'm planning on going out and don't want to dazzle people with my witty reparte and off-the-cuff snoring.

It's not so much 'trying to build up credit in the sleep bank' because I doubt that works, but more 'ensuring I'm into the black', unfortunately I tend to be a light sleeper so find it difficult to get back to sleep after being disturbed.

Has anyone got any tips? I mean, I'm often awake at 7:30 on a Sunday morning people, surely that ain't right?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
18:43 / 08.07.03
Well I can't say I've ever had that problem. I tend to have trouble getting to sleep but not getting back to sleep. So my advice, as someone who never voluntarily wakes up at such a ridiculous hour of the morning, is that you must not get out of bed at 7.30 unless there's something you absolutely must do. Lie there and shut your eyes until you sleep again and whatever you do don't think about time because that's a sure way of staying awake when you really don't have to.
 
 
*
18:52 / 08.07.03
I second the last. Don't even look at the clock, because making your brain read something will wake it up more. Just close your eyes and make up stories for yourself until they turn into hypnogogic imagery and finally into dreams.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:16 / 08.07.03
This is probably really obvious and no help at all but I have only recently worked out why people have curtains in their bedrooms. Unless shafts of very strong sunlight are doing a nosferatu on me, I usually sleep like a narcoleptic baby. This means that I usually rely on bright morning light awakening me or I'd sleep till the afternoon every day.

Not much use when I've worked night shifts or when a guilty conscience /excess of intoxicants disrupts this pattern. Staying in friend's beds with heavy drapes drawn against the light works wonders. Apparently you can even buy black out material to line your curtains and the complete and utter darkness will get you off again like a charm, honest.

Shame the sight of heavy drapes during the daytime gives me some uncomfortable, sad feeling or we'd have them at home.
 
 
Jub
04:47 / 09.07.03
10 mgs of Valium.

Failing that, learn to slow your heart rate as it automatically gets faster when you wake up in the morning, so being able to slow it again (with breathing exercises) may help you to drop off.
 
 
Bear
07:00 / 09.07.03
I've been having the same problem, I think it's due to the sun my room only has this weird pull down thing which is very thin and pink and when the sun rises my room turns bright pink, but I had a sickie yesterday and slept for about 14 hours which is possibly the longest I've slept in years if not ever.

I had a huge epic dream where I was a mutant and I called all the mutants (using an radio aerial) in the universe to a certain section of space (2435 I believe) for a huge battle, I woke up feeling very strange indeed and my neck problem didn't bother me the whole day, not really any help for you Flowers but I thought I'd share.

I'd suggest buying an eye mask it might help?
 
 
waxy dan
07:34 / 09.07.03
Have a gander over here:
http://www.barbelith.com/underground/topic.php?id=12837

I've had much the same problem for years now, but very much so since about Jan or so of this year.

I'd suggest eye-blinds and ear-plugs. You do feel a bit ridiculous in bed, but they're very effective. Boots (if you're living in the UK) sell two kinds of ear-plugs: wax and foam. If you find something in your ear uncomfortable, or least distracting as I do, I'd suggest going for the foam kind. They form into the shape of your ear and are relatively unobtrusive. They're also quite cheap (about two quid). They're disposable though, so if you do find them effective you might want to buy a proper pair for long term use.

Breathing excercises I've tried, and while I use them regularly to just relax, they haven't helped me much in getting a few extra hours of kip.

The black out blinds I'm sure are fantastic, but are surprisingly expensive. Though I'm sure buying the material and making them yourself would be a lot cheaper.

A very mild spliff (or even half a very mild spliff) I've found helpful sometimes as well. But this is only if I have the time to use it to destress with some music and a book. Anymore than a tiny amount and it disrupts my sleep patterns very badly.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
07:41 / 09.07.03
Mmm, a spliff knocks you out. I had three or four months of terrible insomnia and used to rely on them. It's a good way to develop an allergy.
 
 
Jub
07:50 / 09.07.03
An allergy to joints?! really?
 
 
illmatic
08:15 / 09.07.03
I don't want to wade in and give advice about a problem I don't suffer from, so a general question - has anyone tried yoga or somesuch? Any use? I would have thought some body based approach might have helped.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
08:25 / 09.07.03
Yes, I'd like to claim it was psychological but erm, I don't see what else an allergy to that once-was-lovely drug could be? I can't take more than three puffs before all depth perception leaves. At first everyone thought I was just whiting like a bitch but now general opinion leans towards the allergy frame of mind.

Anyway, yeah sleep, lovely stuff.
 
 
waxy dan
08:39 / 09.07.03
sleep, lovely stuff
It is... it reeeaaaally is.
 
 
grant
13:45 / 09.07.03
There's a laboratory thread on this.
 
 
waxy dan
13:50 / 09.07.03
Errr.. yeah... if you follow this link.

Sorry.. I'm being a smartass.
 
 
spidermonkey
14:56 / 09.07.03
Lavender oil, works every time.
Particularly if you can get someone to massage you with it!
 
 
Shrug
19:32 / 10.07.03
There's alot of things you could try... what you said about just getting the mininmum amount of sleep necessary happens to me alot too.... remove anything that you associate with activity from your room tv, posters, computer!, (isn't it obvious why). If you feel unable to sleep get up leave the room so you won't annoy yourself into endless hours of "why the fuck can't I get to sleep I'm so tired wah wah wah" etc and jog or run, something that empties your mind. If you smoke alot like me you'll just be be trying to make it home again/ up the stairs without coughing up a lung. You may then be ready for bed. Cut out cigarettes, caffeine (tea, fizzy drinks, coffee) completely or if you can't manage that after 7 o'clock or something.
 
 
Shrug
19:36 / 10.07.03
Oh and

Sleeping alone, except under doctor's orders, does much harm. Children will tell you how lonely it is sleeping alone. If possible, you should always sleep with someone you love. You both recharge your mutual batteries free of charge.
--Marlene Dietrich
 
 
Mourne Kransky
10:23 / 11.07.03
But then men (and women) fluttered to Her, like moths around a flame...

Might be interesting, popping in to see the GP:

"Can't sleep Doctor."
"Well, I've got just the thing. Take this prescription for a love object down the chemists and they'll sort you out."
"But I'd rather choose for myself..."
"Nonsense, like everybody else in the world you'll get to choose between:
a) looks like shit but heart of gold
b) Orlando Bloom on the outside but Cruella de Vil on the inside
or
c) will embarrass you in public but doesn't snore.
If that doesn't help, come back in a fortnight and we'll double the dose."
 
  
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