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Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle - SPOILERS

 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
09:18 / 06.07.03
What a weird film. [This post is SPOILER CITY.]

Not that it wasn't high octane - but several things stood out for me...

The domestic violence plot with Drew Barrymore is very dark, and never really resolved. A man who can walk through fire without burning and kills the Creepy Thin Man without breaking a sweat falls from a high building after a brief, unclimactic fight with Dylan which he basically wins. She kills him - maybe - but all the same, she never beats him.

The rules of physics were bent in the first film, but they're just plain absent in this one, to the point where I kept getting thrown out of the story by the fact that the Angels and their adversary's periodically seem to be able to fly and dodge bullets in a Matrix-ish way.

What the Hell was going on with Crispin Glover's Creepy Thin Man? First he turns out to be a haircut fetishist, and then it transpires that he's in love with Dylan (or her hair) and that he only really communicates by squealing. He crops up a couple of times almost at random, apparently seeking to protect Dylan and her friends, and then gets impaled by Sean O'Grady. Here today, and gone tomorrow - what a waste.

The Heaven/Hell theme goes deep into the plot - the climax is positively Biblical. Old Angels crop up out of nowhere - first Demi Moore and then, um, whoever that other woman is - to give advice or question the Angelic ethic. Now, that's quite interesting, but remains largely unexplored and in any case, that kind of heritage/lineage notion seems a bit out of place in a turbo-hyped, stunt-driven candyfest like this one.

Just struck me as a very, very strange film.
 
 
Warewullf
12:43 / 06.07.03
Killing the Thin Man was abit of a waste. He was a cool visual.
This movie was all about the eye-candy. I loved it.
 
 
The Puck
22:25 / 09.07.03
just a few thoughts, there may be slighty crypitic SPIOLERS but if your anything like me youll read it anyway

a movie well worth seeing, i was confused that demi is reveled to be the villian in most of the english trailers but the film is shot and edited for this to be a big shock near the end.

i particularly enjoined the mish mash of film and pop culture referances, the blues brothers with blue nuns being my favourite.


and the irish accents got close to making me want to stuff popcorn in my ears. obivously from the dick van dyke school of accents.
 
 
_pin
22:36 / 09.07.03
Two questions:

ONE- do all Irish men really button their denm jackets right up to the top? Really? They seem to do this a lot (OK, the guy fomr Cold Feet, and the fake one in this film, but whatever). Why the hell is that?

TWO- where was William Orbit's cameo? Pink was the race starter, and Beck's hair seems to have grown a 15 year old and got called Leo to get the hell away from the man...
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
22:55 / 09.07.03
I agree with Nick's observation that this film is really very odd. It's like an action film made by an alien being whose only experience of human culture is through American film and television. 100% recycled cultural materials slapped together with no real understanding of the significance of anything, putting in abusive psychosexual content without any understanding of it's impact. The whole thing was so loud and distorted it seemed like a feature length version of the 'Last Day' sequence at the end of Goodfellas, right down to overlapping classic songs. The strange thing is that I'd rather something was totally derivative and quite strange than in love with it's own percieved skill and originality yet deeply banal, like Swordfish.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
14:28 / 12.07.03
It is fucking weird. The Creepy Thin Man strain was just a waste - it's like they had a cool character from the first and they wanted to use him again... but didn't know what to do with him. It's like Groundskeeper Willie's ineffectual lifesaving in that Simpsons halloween special where they rip off The Shining, really...

Nick: wasn't the woman in the bar Jaclyn Smith from the original show? I could be wrong - and haven't checked IMDB for sure - but think that's it.

Also: John Cleese? Why? For the love of fuck, why?

I was quite taken with some of the other references through the film: the continual Cape Fear gagging being the most obvious, but there were enough to keep me happy. Actually, I was pretty impressed with the fact that it's a totally empty film, really... there's nothing of substance really goes on, but it's undeniably big, dumb fun, in the same way that the TV series was: lots of costume changes and unbreakable angels, really. Except for the aforementioned violent ex-boyfriend bit... that was really uncomfortable at times. Hmn. I guess it did all the blow-shit-up-stupidity that I was expecting (and didn't get) from Reloaded.

However: glam-costumed wrestling Drew. Oho yes.
 
 
Tom Coates
16:00 / 12.07.03
Very weird film. But you're leaving out the important bit - the really mean domestic violence bastard was so hot:

 
 
Tom Coates
16:01 / 12.07.03
Shit - that's embarrassing. Er - this is Tom, everyone. Hi. Was just logging in on my alternative suit in order to check that the site's revisions worked if you were a moderator.
 
 
000
17:09 / 12.07.03
I quite agree, Tom, Theroux is gonner have my babies someday.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
18:56 / 12.07.03
Why not John Cleese? I thought it was excellent and thought they were trying to suggest he was Lucy Liu's biological father. The only times it dragged was when it got all serious at the end, all about friendship and loyalty and shit. It's like Scrubs and "here comes the moral bit, concentrate!"
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:42 / 13.07.03
Yeah, but aside for the shitty dancing in the credit roll and the "ooh! She might be a hooker!" jokes, was there any need? Just seemed a bit wank, frankly.
 
 
Lionheart
01:19 / 13.07.03
Really, totally, fucking far out weird ass movie. Something that a martian monkey might pull out of its ass.

Wasn't John Clesse's character named "Mundi"? As in "world" in Latin? Also I don't think that the Creepy Thin Man is dead. That's just my opinio though.

Oh, btw, my mom pointed out that one of the Irish henchmen is Party Boy from Jackass the movie. I checked on IMDB and she's right. I need glasses.
 
 
Jackie Susann
01:43 / 13.07.03
I don't think it's weird, really, I think it's pretty sophisticated in that it's followed the logical evolution of action blockbusters further than anyone, i.e. it's basically a string of set pieces and what used to be called a plot only connects them in the most arbitrary and irrelevant way. Like it's impossible to follow what's happening. It's fucking brilliant. Everything about it is brilliant.

And I reckon it's a stretch to say Drew doesn't beat the guy - he's stronger than her so she beats him with her brains and athletic ability. It would have been nice to see him die more violently, but I figure they're holding onto him for the next sequel.

Anyway, you are all forgetting the most important part: How good was Pink!!!
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
20:18 / 13.07.03
It would have been cool if Pink's role was somehow connected to the video for the theme. Otherwise, yes John Cleese's role was largely superfluous, but so was Matt Le Blanc, Natalie's boyfriend and Bosley's Mum.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:43 / 14.07.03
Actually, I'd argue that's wrong: the relationships of both Natalie's bf and LeBlanc had been brought up in the first one - they were already part of the scenery and served as commentary on the whole keeping relationships/being a blow-shit-up agent-thing dichotomy. Bosley's mum I could handle as she's a conduit for providing Charlie with the Bosleys that run the show - hence the picture of Bill Murray on the wall, the taking in of Leo, etc - Bosley mkIII?

More than any other character, Cleese's father figure served as a joke lever, and the jokes he was involved in were some of the weaker ones of the film. Ooh! Gangbanging!

Sigh.
 
 
Jackie Susann
03:58 / 14.07.03
Surely half the appeal is that absolutely everything in the film is completely superfluous - you could take out anything you wanted and it would still work just as well.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
12:08 / 14.07.03
Well, not entirely. You structure a film like that and you get Caligula. There's a difference between embracing pisstaking and rejecting structure. Cleese didn't, in my view, fit into it very well. At least the jokes elsewhere are a little more structured than the "Dad, you think I like a lot of cock, don't you?" type.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
12:12 / 14.07.03
There is, of course, the Helen Zass scene, which has brought me as close as I have ever come to literally getting up out of my seat and tearing the cinema screen to pieces with my teeth.
 
 
cusm
19:05 / 16.07.03
I think the bit from the MTV movie awards, which I REALLY hope makes the DVD, really says all you need to about this film.

'In making the sequal to Charlie's Angels, we wanted to do something special, something that had never been done, something that would really stand the test of time and challenge us as artists.'

'We wanted to add more ass.'

Fucking brilliant bit with their working with a Hollywood Ass Coordinator in the making of the film. How can you argue with that?
 
 
DaveBCooper
14:51 / 21.07.03
Saw it yesterday and for my money John Cleese’s role was a bit of a mini-version of the whole film : relied on pre-existing goodwill to generate tolerance, really.

Tomb Raider 2 trailer looked more like what I was after, really…
 
  
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