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Thoughts on Raising the Caliber of Discussion in the Headshop

 
 
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20:35 / 11.06.03
Now, this might simply be a result of my participation and/or reading of some threads (not all), but I think that this might be typically the case: the process of dialogue often seems one-sided. What I mean is that it often seems that someone will start a thread with a certain idea in mind, and then others will either support the idea or attempt to undermine the idea.

Certainly one of the great things about discussion is the opportunity to have an idea critiqued—put through its paces to reveal flaws and weaknesses. However, it often seems that some will offer negative thesis after negative thesis and spend little or no time offering a positive thesis. Thus, I think it would be additionally helpful when critiquing an idea to also make the attempt to say something positive—either about the original idea or on a variation of the idea that can be seen as making a positive contribution to the thread. Put differently, anyone with a bit of sense and a modicum of intelligence can tear an idea down and expose its weaknesses and hidden assumption—and yes, this is certainly helpful; however, it takes a little more thought, care, and sincerity to not only critique but provide alternate approaches or ideas with respect to the topic of any specific thread.

I generally feel that the level of discussion in the Headshop is great and that there are many active contributors who make dialogue beneficial. However, I also feel that we can do more to raise the bar even higher—and why shouldn’t it be—this would include also taking the time to offer positive theses and not merely negative ones.

Again, these are simply some thoughts that I’ve had about this matter, and, due to my lack of omniscience, do not entirely represent the whole of every thread that has ever been in the Headshop. Thank-you.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:15 / 11.06.03
Keeping it on-topic and reasonably intelligent would be a good start...

Could you give some examples of what you feel are high or low-quality Head Shop posts, >0
 
 
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07:23 / 12.06.03
No. I don't think examples are necessary, and I'm certainly not thinking of anyone in particular. I simply get a general sense, when I read some threads in the Headshop, that the trend is sometimes to attack and undermine ideas without offering an alternate view that would deal positively with, say, an issue that was being addressed by such and such an idea. Get it?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:49 / 12.06.03
I get it, I think, but I'm not sure what is to be done about it, or even if it is the case. Although I think that "positively" is a bit of a movable feast in general - a decent critical examination can usually shake out all sorts of ideas.
 
 
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16:18 / 12.06.03
Well, like I said above, I don't know if it is always the case and generally the level of discussion is of a decent caliber. I'm not complaining about the way we dialogue (because I quite enjoy it!), but merely suggesting that we could, if we try, make our discussions even better than they currently are. I don't think there is a methodical way to do this; rather, I thought I'd merely suggest one way of increasing the caliber of discussion, but it is entirely dependent on personal initiative. No one really has to try to offer a positive thesis on such and such, but it would raise the already reasonable standard of discussion.

And I agree: critical discussion is important and necessary in assessing ideas and pushing them to a greater depth-range; however, I also think that offering positive theses coupled with critique is even better--again, not forcing anyone or demanding here, merely a suggestion that some can choose to think about / act upon or not. In some ways I get the feeling that perhaps this is what the "non-debate rules" that were experimented with might have been trying to accomplish--of course presuming "non-debate rules" sacrifices critical discussion for positive theses: both in combination are clearly better.
 
  
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