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Matthew Fluxington
00:57 / 03.06.03
Ever since reading The Invisibles, nearly every other piece of fiction feels completely insignificant in comparison.

You poor, tragic man!
 
 
moriarty
04:20 / 03.06.03
Flux, I thought you had said quite awhile back that with one or two exceptions you did not enjoy, and never have enjoyed, the characters found in the DC universe. Blame it on my fuzzy memory.
 
 
some guy
15:09 / 03.06.03
Those comics sell very well, but only to existing comics specialty shop readers, and the sales figures at places like Walmart and bookshops aren't enough to mark a substantial change in readership.

What's your source for this? Tokyopop, Archie and Shonen Jump smash direct market sales figures. AFAIK the numbers for the Ultimate line at Wal-Mart etc. haven't ever been released.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:38 / 03.06.03
The DC/Marvel pendulum swing has always intruiged me, too. Like the Republican/Democrat swing, it comes and goes, back and forth, in a cycle that seems to be approximately 10-15 years on the average.

In terms of being the exciting, risk-taking, boundary-breaking, fresh idea company, Marvel has definitely been running with the torch for about 3 years now, whereas contemporary DC is, on the whole, pretty damn boring.

Joe Kelly's JLA scripts, which started out well with his Wonder Woman "Golden Perfect" story, are so wildly inconsistent (and lately, 80% bad) that I can't stomach them. That and the constant and poor guest artists (instead of the solid Mankhe & Ngyuen) render me unable to lay down cash for JLA ever since the very very beginning of Fall of Atlantis or whatever that God-awful storyline was. It seems like one in seven issues is good and worth buying.

DC is getting John Byrne to do a JLA story (present continuity in the regular JLA series; it's set to be a 5-parter) - Byrne will plot and pencil, with Chris Claremont dialoguing. (Sad news for those of us who feel Claremont's writing and yes, even his dialogue have gone down the toilet, as has Byrne's writing and art) That might get some fan attention, but if it's bad, it won't matter much.

Apparently Dan DiDio is trying to pull a Joey da Q in DC's offices, rallying the troops for fresh ideas and fresh blood. He's encountering some resistance, if you believe what you read in Rich Johnston's LYING IN THE GUTTERS column over at www.comicbookresources.com.
 
 
Professor Silly
05:13 / 06.06.03
One reason I don't buy as many DC books as compared to Marvel? The Time Warner power...to print any successful story in trade format. JLA: The Nail seems like a good example: great art and an exciting Elseworlds story that originally came out as a three-part prestige series...later collected as a handy trade. Also, the entire Invisibles story line has been reprinted in trade form. Here in Denver the public libraries buy insane amounts of trade paperbacks, so I read a lot of this stuff later for free.

Yes, DC and Marvel puts out a lot of material, all of it aimed in various directions. I could give two shits about most alternitive comics, and yet some people swear by Cerebus or what-not. Now some quickies:

Chuck Dixon: like his year one stories for Robin and now Batgirl...dislike his monthly titles.

Catwoman: series...and dug the Selina's Big Score HC

...isn't The Filth a Vertigo book???

Batman: loved the fight with Superman...and the romance with Catwoman...and I'm looking forward to the new Superman/Batman World's Finest series.

Dug Rucka's Detective Comics...don't like what I've seen with Wolverine so far.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:26 / 06.06.03
Rucka is about to write the WONDER WOMAN monthly, and to my mind he's the only writer I can think of who could really make WW a good book. He's got a new artist who seems extra-spiffy, too. I'm definitely gonna check that out.

And news flash -- www.comicscontinuum.com just reported that Warner Bros. animation is working on a brand-new Batman animated series, which will sort of 're-boot' the character to a slightly younger version (or, they said, younger than he is in the current Justice League animated series). Maybe a Year One kind of thing? This seems strange to me, given that the first year's worth of the Batman Animated Series were Year One-ish.

Oh, and dAb, Vertigo titles don't count for this thread, since the thread is about the Mainstream DCU.

I'm looking forward to the Loeb/McGuiness Batman/Supes as well -- which will likely see the unseating of Luthor as President, or so Loeb has hinted. (Loeb has said the series will "resolve" the Luthor-as-Prez storyline, as Bats and Supes team up to get dirt on President Luthor.)
 
  

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