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Spoken Word and Music

 
 
Jack Fear
17:30 / 29.05.03
Been listening to recordings of William S. Burroughs this week, and—reflecting on how the death of Burroughs meant, for me, less the loss of a writer than the loss of that voice—started thinking about how spoken word and music work with (and occasionally against) each other.

Burroughs recorded fairly prolifically. Call Me Burroughs, the earliest commercial recording, is also the sparsest—just the voice, with a border-radio slap-echo that makes the thing sound like an emergency broadcast from the Interzone. On Dead City Radio, producer Hal Willner's high concept was to pair Burroughs's texts with music from the NBC orchestral archives: on some tracks, it works—"Thanksgiving Prayer" and "Kill the Badger," especially, gain a demented-Americana effect from the treatment—but the disc falters badly in its second half (although some of that is down to the texts—Willner inexplicably has Burroughs read from the Bible, instead of his own work, deploying repurposed Ten Commandments-style music, giving the impression that suddenly this is a Hal Willner album, guest-starring Burroughs). I haven't heard the sequel, Spare Ass Annie and Other Tales, where Willner and Burroughs are joined by the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, but I can't say it sounds particularly promising.

Willner also worked with Beat poet Allen Ginsberg on The Lion For Real, and the results, again, did nothing for me. Ginsberg was never as commanding a voice as Burroughs, but he had a certain wry charm: the Steve Swallow lite-jazz backing did him no favors here, however.

Back to Burroughs, though: one project that works really well, IMHO, is one that sounds like a disaster on paper—the album Seven Souls, by Bill Laswell's funk band Material. Laswell's approach is to force the texts into a song format: that is, the band locks into a vamp as Burroughs intones a section of the text (the "verse," as it were), then moves into an instrumental refrain or bridge: Burroughs's voice returns when the vamp returns—just like the singer in a band. It's odd, but terrifically effective.

Laswell and members of Material worked with Hakim Bey, laying down soundscapes behind reading from T.A.Z. Did away with songforms entirely, here—it was mostly swooshes and rumbles, as I recall. Not terrible, but slightly pointless.

Then there's Ken Nordine, genius that he is: in his work, though, the music is part of the point...

What makes for good spoken-word-with-music? Are certain genres of music more conducive than others to this treatment? Is there a formula for the alchemy by which a text and a tune complement each other, creating a whole greater than the sum of the parts? Examples and analyses encouraged.
 
 
grant
18:32 / 29.05.03
Dude, you skipped King Missile. Which uses spoken word as verses to pop songs, basically. Free verse rock and roll, in a way.

John S. Hall definitely seems to start from the words, in a way, but plays back and forth with the musicians, and gives plenty of room for instrumental breaks. Which is key. Call and response.

As opposed to Ken Nordine, where the music is basically like stuff for a radio play... either soundtrack or sound effects. It defines the environment Nordine is crawling through, rather than being an equal partner.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:16 / 29.05.03
Well, yeah--and besides King Missile there's Soul Coughing/M.Doughty, and Nicole Blackman's work with the Golden Palominos, and and and and.

But all of those are quasi-musical from their very inception—that is, they're written specifically to be heard with music, whereas Burroughs, Ginsberg, Bey et al. were writing for the page: setting those texts to music is already a repurposing or detournement.
 
 
—| x |—
19:57 / 29.05.03
You know, Spare Ass Annie and Other Tales is all right. It's still got that fabulous voice of Burroughs, and the hip-hop is not bad (btw, the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy do a fab cover of "California Uberalis" (sp?) by DK). But yes, Seven Souls is better.

Have you heard Burroughs work with Gus Van Sant? Burroughs’ voice is very effective over the melodies of Van Sant's guitar. "Millions and millions of images, that's what I eat. I got orgasms. I got screams." Good stuff.

And, maybe it's me, but I think that the project that Burroughs and Cobain did, The "Priest" They Called Him, is also a good piece of spoken word / music. I mean, Cobain's noisy feedback guitar track matches quite well to the steady intonations of Burroughs voice, and seems to fit the mood of the text being read.

As for an “alchemical formula,” well I don’t know. I think that it might depend upon the speaker and the musician(s). I don’t think I could imagine Burroughs doing a voice over reading on a country music track, but if Johnny Cash was narrating a story over a certain style of country music, well, that would certainly be effective.
 
 
MojoJojo
22:43 / 29.05.03
I wouldn't mind hearing some minimal electronic blips and static noises lurking behind Burroughs' voice.

There are some great moments on his Break Through In Grey Room disc which featured some old radio news reports overlapped together into chaotic sound collages. I'm pretty sure that he didn't speak over these collages, though that would've probably worked really well.

With Seven Souls, I think the music/production felt too clean and structured to suit his voice.

So what would sound good with Alan Moore's voice?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
22:46 / 29.05.03
Alan Moore's already been put to music; Highbury Working is apparently the best, though I've not heard it. The name slips my mind at the moment, but his disc on Blake is pretty good; ranging from dodgy goth to OTT sturm-und-drang lockstep, which is more about the subject matter than the man. To be honest, he sounds nothing like I'd imagined he would. (Angel Mean? That could be the name of it. Will dig it out at home.)
 
 
_pin
22:57 / 29.05.03
Doesn't he sound like the guy who used to do the Dettol advert?
 
 
MojoJojo
23:18 / 29.05.03
Angel Passage. I actually have that one, but never gave it a good listen yet (using it more as background accompaniment for when I'm working). Sooner or later I'll force myself to leave some free time to listen to the disc in a more direct manner. Same with the more recent Snakes and Ladders disc.

I was just wondering what people here think would sound well with his voice. What strange combinations come out of it.
 
 
MojoJojo
23:20 / 29.05.03
*What strange combinations can be produced.
 
 
at the scarwash
19:11 / 30.05.03
Witchcraft and Magic: An Adventure in Demonology by Vincent Price is pretty rockin' spoken word. Although the music is definitely backseat atmospherics, Price's voice itself is musical enough to carry the disk. I'm also quite fond of The Janor Device by Janor Hypercleats, the noted subgenius electroshock-victim and artist. The music is pretty devo, when it's there, but it doesn't really need it.
 
 
Saint Keggers
01:06 / 31.05.03
The only Spoken Word I have is A William H Bourroughs I believe its called Wrinkled Earlobes. I copied it off my teacher in Cyberpunk English Lit.
I like Uncle Bill.
 
 
GogMickGog
19:21 / 10.05.06

Lord Buckley is some fantastic stuff. For those who've never had the pleasure, he's a crazed jazz scenester who put a jive-talking spin on various famous tales, be they mythical, biblical etc. Anyway, he's ace, and always sounds more than a little halfcut.

Naturally, though a song or two pops in to say hello, no mention of spoken word could ignore dear old Vivian Stanshall and the wonderful "Sir Henry at Rawlinson's End", an eccentric, surreal and profoundly eloquent parody of country house radio serials: it's deeply odd (Chris Morris is a big fan) and laugh out loud hilarious. The film's even odder..
 
 
Slate
04:18 / 11.05.06
One of my favourite albums of this genre would have to be Prison by Steven Jesse Bernstein recorded/produced by Steve Fisk from Sub Pop records. A good reveiw here. Most of the work to the score was done after Bernstein had committed suicide. The mixing/soundscapes done post humorously by Fisk fitted Bernsteins anguish like a glove. He uses samples from another fav grunge band of mine TAD to fill out the rougher parts and also street noises to give it that surreal edginess. I can connect with the prose written by Bernstein better than most beat poets or punk poets because it is ugly. Life is ugly most of the time really, and it hits you right between the eyes full of insecurity, writhing nervousness and total self loathing which we all feel from time to time right? He was a friend to Burroughs and a behind the scenes priest in the early Seattle grunge era. So if they were your weaning years do yourself a favour and go to a record store now and check out Steven Jesse Bernstein's Prison. Not for the squeamish.
 
 
rizla mission
10:40 / 11.05.06
Much respect is due for resurrecting this interesting thread, and furthermore for raising the names of Lord Buckley and Vivian Stanshall - both absolute heroes!

Lord Buckley is absolutely superb stuff... his "hipster-isations" of Shakespeare, Poe etc. are just unbeatable, and the way he transcended the gags and worked his jive-talk routines into some truly great n' crazy poetry is awe-inspiring - "DIG INFINITY!"

I'd dearly love to actually track down some albums by the guy..
 
 
Quantum
14:22 / 11.05.06
Check out the Hat, local brighton band that fuse poetry, storytelling and music to great effect. Like listening to Murray Lachlan-Young and Nizlopi at the same time.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:39 / 11.05.06
Like listening to Murray Lachlan-Young and Nizlopi at the same time

Are you quite sure that's how you want to pitch them, Q?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:27 / 11.05.06
I met that Murray Lachlan-Young once. Nice chap - for those for whom this issue probably still rankles a bit, he wasn't actually paid a million quid by MTV on that occasion, and seemed rather embarrassed to be reminded of the rumours that he had been. Anyway, we had a couple of beers.

As far as spoken word goes, I quite like '5ml Barrel' on Bomb The Bass' heroin concept album 'Clear,' which features Will Self reading from 'Scale' over a sort of hip-hop-ish, proto-grime backdrop. Will Self's material is arguably pitched at the precise point where Murray Lachlan-Young and William Burroughs would meet, and to a certain extent, he's, well, 'borrowed' his reading style from Burroughs pretty much wholesale, but in this context it works very well, and he should do a lot more of this kind of thing, in my humble, etc. There was a rumour that he was going to record an album with the Herbaliser, I think, but I don't know if it ever came to anything. Like Burroughs though (and as I'm sure he's fairly aware,) Will Self's writing makes a lot more sense once you've heard it out loud.
 
  
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