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Mac OS9/OSX networking help

  
 
some guy
19:29 / 27.05.03
I'm trying to network my old OS9 iMac to my glitzy new OSX flatscreen iMac via Ethernet crossover cable, but they're just not seeing each other. Any of the resident computer genii have any ideas?
 
 
sleazenation
22:00 / 27.05.03
As far as i'm aware you will need to have both macs operating on the same OS to connect them in the fashion you suggest - you should be able to switch from os x to os 9 on your new imac and set upfile sharing in the traditional way - i've managed to link my old imac and my new ibook in this way.

but when setting up the profiles for each computer make sure you give them different names so that you don't do what i did call them the same thing so you can easily differentiate between the two.
 
 
netbanshee
22:35 / 27.05.03
It can be done, however the speed really seems to take a hit when you're connecting two machines with 9/X. Tried it between 2 powerbooks with gigabit ethernet and still got something like 10BT connection (1mb/sec).

Make sure you have Appletalk running on both machines and that you are sharing the volumes to each other (under Get Info... on the hard drive icons respectively). Set read/write open to all or guest). Also make sure that you apply the setting (in OSX) to all enclosed items (may take a little while). Then either choose the volume via the Chooser>Appletalk(i think) in OS 9 or under the "Go>Connect to Server" under the menu bar.

If that's not working completely, also try to connect to each other via TCP/IP under the Appletalk settings. This way (I believe) it'll refer to an ip address instead of the afp:// protocol.

Give me an update...
 
 
Rollo Kim, on location
08:32 / 28.05.03
You really shouldn't have to have OSX on both machines. I've recently had an OSX iMac connected to a Powerbook with OS9.2, and an ancient Powerbook 540 running OS.8 with a minimum amount of fuss.

Be sure to check that the Ethernet settings in 9 are set to the right 'hole' [ie Ethernet not infrared or whatever]too.
 
 
some guy
11:30 / 29.05.03
Still no luck. I'm just swapping stuff over with a ZIP at the moment, but it's about 7Gb of data so it'll take a few days...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
12:14 / 29.05.03
Have you tried enabling TCP/IP? Set it up so that filesharing's ON using your OS9 computer, then use the OSX one to find the OS9 HD. It should work.

Also, maybe try getting a crossover ethernet cable. It's wired a little differently than the typical one you're using - it should solve any problems. here is a basic page that tells you about crossover cables and how to make your own if you're so inclined.

No, wait, I talk shit. You only need crossovers if you're working on a mac that's older than 2000. Look here:

If you’re accessing a Classic OS machine (OS 8.5 - 9.2.2 only) from OS X:

1 - On the OS 8/9 computer, open the File Sharing Control Panel and note the owner name and the computer name in the network identity field. I suggest leaving the owner password box blank, but you if you insist on a password, note it as well.

2 - Start up File Sharing, and make sure that the “Enable file sharing clients to connect over TCP/IP” box is checked. Make sure Ethernet is selected in the AppleTalk control panel.

3 - On the OS X machine, pill down the Go menu in the Finder, and select Connect to Server.

4 - When the dialog box opens, check on AppleTalk in the left-field, and the name of your Classic OS computer should show up in the right field. Click on the name to highlight it.

5 - Click Connect. A dialog box will appear asking for your identity. Type the owner name the you entered in the OS 9 computer’s File Sharing Control Panel, and the password if necessary. Another dialog box will appear showing the hard-drive and/or other volumes and partitions of the Classic OS machine. Select the volumes of you want to access, and click OK.

S6 - Icons for the selected volumes should appear on the OS X computer’s Desktop, where you can use them as normal mounted volume folders.

If you are accessing and OS X machine from the Classic 0S :

1 - Open System Preferences in the OS X machine, and click the Sharing icon. The Sharing panel will appear. In the computer name field, type a computer game. Again, don’t bother with a password.

2 - Click on the Start button to turn on file sharing. If you are accessing from a machine running a pre-OS 8.5 version of the Mac operating system, click on the AppleTalk tab and select “make AppleTalk active.”

3 - on the Classic OS machine, open the Chooser from the Apple Menu., and click on the AppleShare icon. The OS X machine should show up in the right hand box. Double click on the OS X computer’s name, and the “Connect As” box should appear. Type in the owner name and a password if necessary, and click Connect.

4 - You should now get a dialog box showing the volume(s) of the OS X machine. Double-click on the volume(s) you want to access, and you should be in.
 
  
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