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Pemulis / Dee Vapr / Hungrygho
20:40 / 23.05.03
So, for some reason, I have recently found myself listening to Radio 3, and especially Andy Kershaw, and found myself really liking his stuff, and wondering why World Music has always been a gap in an otherwise healthily ecletic attack on appreciating music.

I suppose it may because a middle class white man liking this stuff conjures horrible visions of super-annuated hippies, of hippies in general, of somehow trying to hard, of trying to consume the exoticness of it, in a negative manner.

The definition of the whole genre as such also seems fatuous - trying to capture the cultural traditions of half the world under one umbrella - also seems surreal.

All this in a world where Urban African American music is the hegemony of pop in a sense - bizarre.

I've been putting my toe in the water by listening to quite a bit of Baaba Maal and I really dig it, but I fear this Senegalese bard might be the Garth Brooks of world music, horribly watered down and overproduced for a western market - I'd be really interested in hearing other peoples suggestions of favourite artists and tracks - and even national traditions.

I really dig reggae and dub and how it often historically functions as a music of protest and emancipation - and I'd be really interested to also to hear of World Music artists that follow the same path - which hardly seems unlikely - considering the histories of a lot of the nations concerned...
 
 
enthdegree
21:58 / 23.05.03
Andy Kershaw used to have mid-late night radio one slot, I always appretiated his DUB, check out Giles Peterson Radio 1 12-2am on Wednesy night thursday mornin. His stuff is a bit more dancefloor orientated but he still plays African and a lotta jazz, hip hop, broken beat, latin, all sorts of World Wide stuff.
 
 
Jack Fear
00:01 / 24.05.03
I'd be really interested to... hear of World Music ... that [functions as a music of protest and emancipation] - which hardly seems unlikely - considering the histories of a lot of the nations concerned...

Which nations are those, now? By which I mean to ask: when you say World Music, how much of the world are you talking about?

While music is often co-opted for politics and protest, it even more often comes out of celebration and religious devotion: that is, people in the rest of the world make music mostly forthe same reasons that people in the West do...

The definition of the whole genre as such also seems fatuous - trying to capture the cultural traditions of half the world under one umbrella - also seems surreal.

I agree with your point—but it seems surreal as much for what it leaves out as for what it tries to include.

What is "world music," anyway? How much of the world are we talking about?

I mean, are traditional Irish fiddle tunes "world music"? Are they "roots"? I would argue so: but for many people, world music ain't world music unless it's made by black folk—which seems unnecessarily limiting to me, given the mindblowing traditional musics I hear coming out of Asia, the Indian subcontinent, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, the Pacific Islands, the Celtic countries...

So maybe you need to narrow down what you're you looking for, exactly. Non-Western popular music, or ethnographic recordings? Traditional songs, or composed songs?

I mean, I could recommend Indonesian gamelan, Pakistani devotional songs, Hungarian wedding bands, Norwegian hardanger fiddle tunes, Mongolian throat-singing... but if what you're looking for is just good Afropop and Afro-Cuban dance music, that's all rather beside the point.
 
 
Pemulis / Dee Vapr / Hungrygho
07:14 / 24.05.03
Yesss!!! You've hit the nail on the head, Jack - I must admit that I'm really green in this area, and it maybe causing me to be too expansive with my call for suggestions - your phylum of "mindblowing traditional musics" seems very suitable though.

Definitely not just Afropop / Cuba that I'm interested in - I want to injest as much knowledge of the non-western as I can - the bill of a Fantasy Womad, if you like - I feel about lost w/out an oar at the moment, and would appreciate any help offered.

More, please.
 
 
illmatic
16:58 / 26.05.03
Don' knowif your familar with the series of CD's called "The Rough Guides to [insert genre]" by the same people who make the travel books. They're very cheap, about £7 or less and cover a wide range of different "world music" genres.

If you page down to the bottom of this page there's a pop up list which gives details of their catalogue which is more than enough to introduce you to a wide variety of sounds.

A (very) obvious place to start if you're looking specifically for protest music would be Fela Kuti, most of his albums reference the politcal situationn/goverment corruption in Nigeria at the time he was recording - late 60's and 70s, I think. Got him in a lot of trouble with the goverment - I think they might have been invoved in the murder/"accidental death" of his mother. H was slung in jail a couple of times. The music's marvellous though - lenthy (typically one track per side on LPs), funky, jazz-tinged percussion jams. Absolutely fantastic stuff. I've just realised to my shame I don't own any which I will have to rectify this payday! All the albums by his drummer, Tony Allen, are being re-released as well. I've seen him live in London a couple of times - fantastic, the original drum and bass.

Also, if you can get London Live where you are - check out Charlie Gillet. I usually miss his show (Saturday nights, 8-10) but it's been pretty brillant whenever I've heard it. He casts the net a lot wider than Afro-Pop as well.
 
  
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