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20:12 / 29.08.01

This is a little bit of a headfuck but have a little patience it might work out for you just fine.

Did you ever seriously try to effect the live of one person in a lasting positive way?

I´m not asking about a gruppe or your part in an active movement.I`m not talking about money or goods!

Did you ever change the life of a person to the better.

There is a point in this belive me.
Its a revolutionary brain child of mine but I need your cooperation to make it work.

[ 29-08-2001: Message edited by: Lex ]

Ellis

20:17 / 29.08.01

You mean, like pay it forward? No.

But two people have helped me in my life quite a bit, and I don't mean my parents.

And if I ever become rich I will buy them whatever they want.

[ 29-08-2001: Message edited by: Ellis ]

20:51 / 29.08.01

Come again?

Ellis

20:54 / 29.08.01

What?

09:13 / 30.08.01

Ok how about I try to Break the Loop.
That post has nothing to do with money.
If it seem so I sorry fucked up the translation from Brain-german-english.

Lazlo Woodbine [some call me Laz]

09:13 / 30.08.01

I can't think of anyone whose really changed my life or vice-versa, but if you have an idea that could help i'm with Lex!

Jack The Bodiless

09:13 / 30.08.01

Tom Quezlacoatl, the Winged Bringer of Barbelith.

And my dad, without whom, etc, etc.

Soppy, but true.

09:13 / 30.08.01

Hmmm.... Yes, I have an ongoing project devoted to making a couple people's lives better. They've gotten better, but I can't say whether I really had anything to do with it.

The Knowledge

12:13 / 30.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Ellis:
You mean, like pay it forward? No.

But two people have helped me in my life quite a bit, and I don't mean my parents.

And if I ever become rich I will buy them whatever they want.

[ 29-08-2001: Message edited by: Ellis ]

I want a nice little cottage in the New Forest.

20:21 / 30.08.01

Well lets forget this

Ellis

20:23 / 30.08.01

Lets not.

Honestly I have never helped anyone seriously before.

Have you?

What is the point to this, what is your revolutionary brainchild?

09:08 / 31.08.01

Well thats rather hard to explain.

Yes I helped a few,I´m still working on the last one.(rather a hard case)

I noticed that it has some rather interessting effects on my mental health.
Now I´m trying to work a theory out of this.
(Ok I know that sounds pretty smartassed.)

For this I need more Information, somebody how isn´t me.
(has not the same frequency of perception)

Well my nightlfe is calling. Sleep well.
We can finish this tomorrow if you like.

[ 31-08-2001: Message edited by: Lex ]

09:08 / 31.08.01

something in my head tells me that not helping others (sometimes specifically) is a BAD thing. Without the need to reach out, my footing would be a little ackward. It works reciprocally but you do have to innately feel the advantage it gives you...speaking mostly emotionally. Plus when you're on your ass it gives you more hope. Isn't this in some abstract way, why we're all sitting here reading this stuff? The routes do need to work both ways but usually its for the little things.

09:08 / 31.08.01

Now we are getting somewhere.
Lets see where.

15:49 / 31.08.01

Doesn't it also seem that a great many people who feel "lost" or don't subscribe to any profound meaning in their lives have difficult relationships with others? I mean, I'm generally the quiet type around new people, but feel this gravitation to them as I know them better. Then with your better friends, you share this bond that completely hyper-real.

I guess an example of this is my current living situation and the next few months of time. I have to move in a month and a half and find the current prospects a bit grim as far as a job, distance to family and friends, etc. And I can't help to notice a need inside to remain in close contact with these people even if the lure of a good job (professionally speaking) is out there. It seems that to comprimise the outcome of these experiences with these people is to damage something that's a bit eternal and far more important. It's seems so spiritually lucrative to be with them and in addition, it may help make day to day life and financial prospects better as well.

And yeah...it feels great to know that something you say or do for someone (especially when they're at a diasadvantage) can deeply effect the way they go about doing things. Kind of like why I hope to be in a mentor or teaching position one day. Not to fulfill the ego by saying something like, "I know more than they do and they need my help", but to feel that the process of working with people creates all of these opportunities and fleshs out our destiny.

It's also why I find myself hanging out with certain people that some of my friends don't necessarily "agree" with or better yet understand. Simply, they possess something quite different than others and I need to be around it. Even if you have to sift through complexes or extra b.s. to be there. Some people take more work than others.

20:30 / 31.08.01

I think it also gives you new perceptions for your own life.

04:22 / 06.09.01

i have entered my initiation. so for me, many of the veils of reality have been lifted. my vision is new. i have been able to "time travel" back and see alot of the people and situations that have helped shape my position today. only a small part is circumstance, but most is your action and pure intention. so make your intention one of love. that is how you change lives and that is how my life has been changed. greet with hospitality. some say that the reason sodom was destroyed was merely because they were inhospitable. simply the act of being kind helps you see the divine coincidence* of the situation, nothing is random. you meet the people you do for a reason, not always for romantic reasons... "attraction" is usually deeper than sex, it is karmic. to just be filled with love for EVERYONE you meet you will see why and how you are to be togeather. we can't help but effect everyone we come in touch with. but we must make the choice(perpetually)for it to be loving and fruitful.

preachy i know.

05:01 / 06.09.01

Back in the day I helped a few people try and reach their goals. Lately, I've been wondering what it is in my life that I'm missing, and a good part of it is that I don't seem to have the time or energy to making even one or two people ridiculously happy. It doesn't take much. A kind word. A day of your time. Looking from the outside at a person's life you can sometimes cut through the garbage they've built up around themselves, all that self-loathing that's keeping them from taking that first step, and give them a hand.

But when I start thinking I've failed, I remember that I make my dog's day just by entering the room, and I provide a kind of bliss to her when I scratch her ears and spend an hour just with her.