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Is Wolverine immortal?

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20:55 / 11.05.03

Spinning off from the already spun-off geeky X Men thread, I was just walking to work and wondering to myself about whether, in theory, Wolverine is actually immortal.

If his healing power is predicated upon cellular regeneration (and bearing in mind my knowledge of biology is limited to high school where I found it very dull because it was all plants an ting) then theoretically his body can't really die. I mean, I suppose it's given that he will live a very long time, let's say four hundred years or so, but me and my mate Ross were just imagining Wolverine being asphyxiated and then thrown into space, where his brain would perhaps go into a kind of death-like stasis, until perhaps centuries later he is picked up by an oxygenated spacecraft and brought back to life, presumably without memory if his former life.

I'm no expert, so maybe there's some 'what if?' story where something like this actually happens, but if not then does anybody fancy chucking some ideas and notions into the thread?

Peace brothers and sisters, here's to a long and happy life.

00:35 / 12.05.03

there was a what if where conan the barbarian hacks logans neck almost clean through.

wolverines brain dies before his healing factor can bring him back up to speed due to a lack of oxygen, and he goes feral.

in his feral state he loses all his samurai training and capacity for reason, but he is still 'the best there is at what he does.'

Spyder Todd 2008

01:06 / 12.05.03

I guess it sort of depends on what you mean by "immortal". In Paradise X it basically says that Logan's brain cells, including memory cells, are constantly regenerating, which is why he can't remember much of his past. So, maybe his brain would entirely regenerate, but he'd have no memory of his old life at all, and that would really suck.

01:28 / 12.05.03

In the future, Dr. Doom will ride around in Wolverine's skeleton.

01:34 / 12.05.03

Wolverine's physiology is such that if his body is unable to heal itself, obviously it will die. It has therefore been theorized that should he suffer immense heart and brain damage simultaneously, he would not be able to recover. He is a living creature, and thus his body operatesbased on a set of predefined limits/levels. If you kill the mind and heart, how would the body, and thus his mutation, be able to function?

Foust is SO authentic

02:24 / 12.05.03

I read an issue of Uncanny where Mystique killed a Wolverine training bot by cutting its throat deeply - it bled out before the wound could heal over; she seemed to believe she could do the same thing to the real Wolverine.

02:51 / 12.05.03

I think he's just got a maniacally efficient recuperative system. My question: Doesn't Wolverine seem like the kind of guy who'd have kids by now?

04:11 / 12.05.03

I'm with Foust. I recall an issue of X-men where Callisto whipped a knife at Logans neck saying "You may have unbreakable bones, but you can still bleed to death." . Logan deflects the knife with his claws and says "Throat shot would do it, but only if it connects." or something.

04:34 / 12.05.03

That's funny, I recall an old Claremont issue where someone rips Logan's throat out and throws him in a river.

04:35 / 12.05.03

And I think Marrow jabbed a bone straight into Logan's throat which put him down for about 2 minutes.

05:04 / 12.05.03

Jack, that Sabretooth story was one of the backup stories in Classic X Men.

08:13 / 12.05.03

Can Superman outrun the Flash?

08:23 / 12.05.03

Who cares? DC sucks.

08:23 / 12.05.03

who is the strongest, the thing or the hulk?

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

09:58 / 12.05.03

Whose Thing is strongest?

11:02 / 12.05.03

What if someone cut off Wolverine's head, put in a box and sent it to the other side of the galaxy? Then, 100 years later they put his head back on his body? Would it be a one-off special edition with a holographic cover? a three issue mini-series? or a sub-plot in GM's run on the comic?

Also, I have to know more about Dr Doom running around wearing Wolverine's skeleton. That has to be one of the most lunatic idea in comics ever and I demand someone tells me where I can get a copy of that comic because it sounds so bonkers I just have to read it.

11:36 / 12.05.03

Surely Wolverine could be drowned, right?

11:36 / 12.05.03

Hollywood learns that Doom is responsible for the death of the Commandeers. Simon blames himself for not being there, and takes off on a Doomquest, to find Doom (whose brain has been implanted inside Wolverine's skeleton!) and make him pay.

http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/power/955/Hollywood.htm

Madness.

12:08 / 12.05.03

I believe the Thing can lift about 75-85 tons and savage green Hulk can lift about 100 tons. Wally West Flash is faster than Superman.

12:40 / 12.05.03

but the hulk just needs to get madder, and then he would kick most asses, surely? isnt that the deal?

can wally west flash superman quickly enough that even He wouldnt notice? wait... i think i may be in the wrong forum...

13:13 / 12.05.03

Thanks for the link Waxy.

"Simon is continuing his Doomquest, but so far is having no luck. We learn that someone is following Simon. "

The action just never lets up in Guardians Of The Galaxy....

Plus, how did Wolverine lose his skeleton and more important still - how pissed off will he be when he finds out?

I would pay big money to see the film version.

13:41 / 12.05.03

Plus, how did Wolverine lose his skeleton

Asked and answered.

14:08 / 12.05.03

Plus, how did Wolverine lose his skeleton and more important still - how pissed off will he be when he finds out?
I think he left it behind the sofa. That's where mine usually is on a saturday morning.

15:13 / 12.05.03

Once, in the Savage Land, Wolverine's body was able to regenerate from a single molecule. He had been distinergrated or some such thing. Oddly, he still had adamantium in him...

18:24 / 12.05.03

Once, in the Savage Land, Wolverine's body was able to regenerate from a single molecule. He had been distinergrated or some such thing. Oddly, he still had adamantium in him...

Now you're just being silly

19:04 / 12.05.03

Don't know about the Savage land, but in X-Men Annual #11 a drop of Wolverine's blood landed on the Crystal of Ultimate Vision after he had his heart ripped out, and amplified his powers enough to completely regenerate him. So, there's a heartless Wolverine corpse lying around somewhere in space. That, and he had the opportunity to become a God, but turned in down, thereby winning the human race the right to evolve, or something.

One of Claremont's finer throwaway moments.

I think the adamantium was grafted to him in such a way that it was practically part of his body. After he got the adamantium ripped out, his healing abilities got thrown out of whack and he didn't recover until he got it back.

I think I'm the only person alive who thinks Wolverine losing his adamantium, and having bone claws, was one of the best things to happen to the character.

00:36 / 13.05.03

Visually they were pretty sweet. I'm not that fussed.

I suppose the adamantium skeleton is to Wolverine what the Phoenix is to Jean.

14:33 / 13.05.03

i liked the adamantium when i discovered wolverine, but i certainly thought that its loss was a great thing to happen to him.
it made for a better character, the lack of completely unbreakable bones.

i mean, the hulk couldnt snap his neck before, then the wrong bar brawl might kill him if he wasnt careful.

16:53 / 13.05.03

You all know, in your heart of hearts, that Logan should be living it up as a paunchy socialite, or maybe some kind of government consultant, in Japan, with gaggle of hairy Nisei kids. The oldest of whom might be college-aged about now.

But nooooo...

19:18 / 13.05.03

No - see Days of Future Past. His entire body was incinerated by the sentinels leaving just his skeleton. Dead as a dodo.

Regrettable Juvenilia

19:49 / 13.05.03

I can't believe I'm going to admit to knowing this.

But when Xavier became Onslaught, it was discovered that the pre-evil Professor kept files on all the X-Men and other mutants' weaknesses, including how to kill them, just in case they went evil.

To kill the (adamantium-free) Logan according to Chuck, you'd need to either cut off his head, and take it somewhere very far away from his body (my own addition would be to suggest burying it under an accursed tree, in a box with some bitter herbs and a crow's foot). I think you might want to cut out and destroy his heart for good measure to. You know, like with vampires. Now he's got the metal back, presumably this is all impossible...

moriarty: I liked the idea, but not the execution (that's true of a lot of 90s X-comic and other Marvel stuff in general). One nice touch was that for a while his healing factor was fucked too, which meant he couldn't drink and smoke those cigars without feeling the effects - cue Wolverine vomiting in trash cans etc.

23:06 / 13.05.03

Hang on, how did Wolverine get his skeleton back again? Or have I missed a post somewhere?

I guess that's why I love comics - no matter how ridiculous the idea, they can make it happen....

21:04 / 15.05.03

Did he have claws before the adamantium? Why did he get bone ones when he lost the metal ones?

at the scarwash

21:20 / 15.05.03

Yes, our lad Logan was born with the claws. This was a retrofitted mutation-fact; until the adamantium-leaching episode it was pretty much taken for granted that Weapon X had implanted them. That was what he believed, at any rate. I think that the Windsor-Smith Weapon X featured the claws as something that came as a surprise to those poor evil scientists. But it's been a while since I've read it.

Professor Silly

16:07 / 18.05.03

Specifically in the BWS Weapon X storyline one can find a single line that says something to the effect of "we have excess adamantium flowing into the forearm region." One could take this to mean that the scientists in charge of the process did not know about the bone claws before-hand. Or one could take this as a sign that the mysterious entity in charge (hinted at being Apocolypse) simply did not tell the scientists about creating the claws. Since then we have the whole bone claw story twist, so we can retroactively accept the former interpretaion.

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