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How to fuck up the U.S. tax cut...

19:54 / 09.08.01

I got something from George Bush in the mail (awfully nice of him) regarding the tax cut and what it means to me as it breaks down to a check that all taxpayers in the US will be getting. Any ideas on how to subvert this?

I mean...could a large enough amount of people sit on the check or burn it so that it has enough of an impact to damage rather than help spur spending in the economy? It's a bit of a task but...theoretically...could an action like this do anything? Right now, it's either compensating towards rent or buying action figures but...any ideas?

09:05 / 10.08.01

let me guess: you're looking to exacerbate the current economic crash in the U.S. to register dissent that cannot be ignored?

09:09 / 10.08.01

...er...sure. But then again it'd be nice to use flowers and puppies and ammunition...hey, I'm already unemployed as far as the system is concerned and it just seems that everything will be going the way of the landfill anyway. Might as well say you had something to do with it.

09:09 / 10.08.01

Send the money to Planned Parenthood/Sierra Club or whatever floats your boat & send the Pretender a nice note that "a donation has been made in your name to..."

09:09 / 10.08.01

I'm donating mine to the Green Party.

Molly Shortcake

09:09 / 10.08.01

You could buy me those cool european Sega soccer Jerseys.....how much longer do you think they'll keep making the Dreamcast one, Huh? Not. Very.

I'll subvert the masses by wearing baggy UFOs and sega shirts in yuppie bars, drunk, screaming the lyrics to KOMPRESSOR IN ACTIONs 120 MPH -
Walking downtown/wind blowing gust/moltov cocktail refuse to combust/preventing the outcome/kompresser think just/KOMPRESSOR CRUSHING THE CITY TO DUST! (or something).

09:09 / 10.08.01

or you could be really subversive and send your tax rebate back with a little note saying 'I want to pay more tax please.'

12:43 / 10.08.01

Your thread came too late – I've already cashed mine in.

Right now, it's either compensating towards rent... – netbanshee
...EXACTLY.

I agree, however, that the tax refund is purely about boosting the public's opinion of "king" George, which is at the lowest it's ever been (and rightfully so).

15:47 / 10.08.01

quote:Originally posted by figaro9:
I'm donating mine to the Green Party.

I'm not holding my breath about getting one, but if I do, it'll go there too.

16:01 / 10.08.01

quote:I'm not holding my breath about getting one

Well, if Georgie knew what I've been saying about him, I'm sure he'd take me off the list. But I already got a note in the mail saying I'll get my check next month.

(I'm naturally not worried about him reading this post, although I suppose someone could read it to him.)

20:22 / 10.08.01

I've gotten six letters so far from our man George alternately saying I'm getting $300 and I'm not getting it because I had a tax problem in '93. "Here ya go. JUST KIDDING! No seriously, here, you need the money. FOOLED YA AGAIN! No really, take it. HA HA, POOR PEOPLE SUCK!". grumble grumble...

09:35 / 11.08.01

I was nosing around with a buddy & he found a bit that explained that the "tax rebate" was actually a pre-pament based on your projected 2002 income-tax.

There for it's not quite a rebate/refund...just an advance on next year's tax refund... for which you'll have to pay for anyway in 2002... or some such shit...

I'l try digging up a link!!!

Mordant Carnival

09:40 / 11.08.01

Being on the wrong side of the pond an'all, I wouldn't presume to suggest that the duly elected government of the USA would stoop to a cheap and nasty tactic like bunging people a tax rebate that probably costs more per person that just not taxing them so much in the first place and will therefore have to be recouped next year by upping taxes- oh, look! A blimp!

09:51 / 11.08.01

It was all George's idea and he was NOT duly elected.

Mordant Carnival

09:53 / 11.08.01

quote:Originally posted by CorvusB:
It was all George's idea and he was NOT duly elected.

Not duly....? Oh look! ANOTHER blimp!

Molly Shortcake

09:53 / 11.08.01

I STILL like my idea best. I suspose if you MUST do something other with it - donate it to Sega. C'mon, what *other* company chairman would donate *eighty million dollars of his own money, when Sega wasn't even in danger of going out of business*. Good lord they're giving us another Panzer Dragoon, what more could you possibly want?

[ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: Ice Honkey ]

09:53 / 11.08.01

An X-box.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

10:45 / 11.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Ierne:
Your thread came too late – I've already cashed mine in.

Right now, it's either compensating towards rent... – netbanshee
...EXACTLY.

I agree, however, that the tax refund is purely about boosting the public's opinion of "king" George, which is at the lowest it's ever been (and rightfully so).

Didn't I hear somewhere that the only reason the Shrubbery can give this huge tax rebate thing is by screwing up the economy so that in three years time he has to hike up taxes?

19:17 / 11.08.01

or cut social spending

11:25 / 13.08.01

It's ALL about short-term shoring up of public opinion.
OF COURSE "it's not quite a rebate/refund..." and NO DOUBT those of us that got the money now will have to deal with more tax/less refund later.
PR & Spin, that's all. And I think most people see right through it anyway. So fuck Shrub, I got my rent paid last month.

13:41 / 13.08.01

quote:Originally posted by figaro9:

Well, if Georgie knew what I've been saying about him, I'm sure he'd take me off the list. But I already got a note in the mail saying I'll get my check next month.

(I'm naturally not worried about him reading this post, although I suppose someone could read it to him.)

George W. Bush could give a flying fuck what you say about him. Nor should he.

(Unless you know the guy personally, or you're the leader of a major country, of course.)

I'm not really sure why we would want to bring the economy crashing down. It may very well be that the tax cut will hurt the economy, anyway. "I'll show those replublican bastards. I'll fuck up the country so badly that I won't even be able to find a job. And I'll be homeless, and go piss on their mansions." Er...

11:17 / 15.08.01

quote:quote:
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Originally posted by figaro9:

Well, if Georgie knew what I've been saying about him, I'm sure he'd take me off the list. But I already got a note in the mail saying I'll get my check next month.

(I'm naturally not worried about him reading this post, although I suppose someone could read it to him.)

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George W. Bush could give a flying fuck what you say about him. Nor should he.

SMatthew:

That was a joke. Obviously I'm not so paranoid or arrogant to think that Georgie Porgie would care in the least who I was, even if I were standing in front of him holding a placard that read (if he could read) "I want to fuck George W. Bush".

& I, for one, don't want to ruin the economy, couldn't ruin it if I wanted to (with one $300 check? Sh'yeah, right!), & never said it was any sort of priority of mine. Unless you were referring to George's tax "refund" as ruining the country, in which case I agree--why would anyone want to do something like that? I dunno...

15:25 / 15.08.01

Sorry.

Mostly, I was responding to the topic as a whole. I kept getting the impression that people wanted our economy to crash so that President Bush would look bad.

Or something like that.

I got the feeling that (and I could have been wrong), at most, this was only half-joking.

So I sort of assumed that the topic as a whole had thrown logic out the window. I'll do better next time

.

09:10 / 19.08.01

Or in this thinking...

Trying to find something that everyone agrees upon to do with it and then making a spectacle out of it...for instance getting say 10k people to donate all at once to an organization like "greenpeace" or whoever and then inform the media that this is where his tax cut went. It could be good natured, it could be bad natured, but it could be used in a less selfish manner than say hoagies or a DVD player or something.

Just got mine today and at least some of the "green" will be spent on the green.

Sorry Ice Honkey...no Dreamcast Jersey's for you...but I'll share my goods with you...

18:47 / 21.08.01

The latest on Georgie's "tax cut"

Courtesy of the BBC.

05:33 / 23.08.01

I seriously can't see why anyone would really want the U.S. economy destroyed, or even damaged. An attempt to dent the collective ego of the American populace economically would only be even more disheartening. Their economy has already been shattered, and it's continual decline makes for lucrative TV; the disheartening/scary part of it being that they're pretending it's not happening. "Manifest Destiny" as an unconscious meme is seriously screwing their ability to honestly appraise the country's actual worth...

and y'know, even 100,000 americans donating their tax dividends to charitable organizations would only be spun into more positive PR for the current ruling body (and hence, the natural tendency of America to be so, like, awesome, and stuff)