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The Authority

 
 
waxy dan
10:58 / 10.05.03
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3012609.stm

Under the US proposals, a new body comprising the US and UK - known as the "authority" - would decide how income from the sale of Iraqi oil would be spent.

... fighting terrorism worldwide, surpassing international law to get the job done.. to be fair this sounds kinda familiar.
 
 
ciarconn
11:52 / 10.05.03
It's funny, in some conferences I had been using The Authority as an example of unethical abuse of power.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:59 / 10.05.03
Anyone read the new first issue? Looks like it sucks; I didn't bother.
 
 
ciarconn
21:41 / 10.05.03
It did, they are trying to capitalize in the shock value of an "adult" comic. But it does suck.
 
 
waxy dan
07:11 / 11.05.03
ciarconn

Would you consider it unethical. Most of the people I know have this kind've "yeah, Authority getting the job done, and sticking it to the man" attitude to the books.

Viewing as 'direct action' on a global scale?
 
 
penitentvandal
08:05 / 11.05.03
Does this mean we get to see Blair & Bush dressed up as Apollo and Midnighter?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
09:28 / 11.05.03
I bet this new incarnation will have nothing new to say but WILL feature people's heads being kicked off and having their spines graphically ripped out. Cos, y'know, it's an adult take on super heroes...
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
09:34 / 11.05.03
There's a thread back there somewhere with my reasons for thinking The Authority is doomed as a comic...

Briefly: they'd win. When Jenny Sparks was running the outfit, they would have succeeded in what they were attempting to do. That's how badly they overmatched the opposition. There would have been a nice world - but that ends the title (never mind the Wilstorm Universe complications), so they're stuck in limbo being progressively rendered more stupid to explain how they manage to achieve so little, more vapid to give us a reason not to mind, and more incompetent (Team Achilles whipped their ass... oh, please.)
 
 
ciarconn
13:25 / 11.05.03
Waxy Dan:

As I see it, power does give you the responsablity to use it correctly, BUT it does not give you the moral authority to impose your own ethical or political views on others. And that's what the Authority does (and what Bush uses as an excuse), they change the way of life of people because it does not go along their idea of a "better world".
This idea is an interesting derivation if the classical Spider Man "power means Responsability", taken to the extreme. And at the end, makes questionable all super-heorics.
I mean, I suppose that Americans and brittish would feel OK if an SPB team, or extraterrrestrials, or a chinese/russian army came in and changed their way of living?
Who decides what makes a better world?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:17 / 11.05.03
It may be interesting if a decent writer tried a new version of The Authority that makes The Authority the fascist antagonists of the story, and the comic could be about an attempt to topple them. The Authority would not have to be villains necessarily, but the conflict of the series would always come down to The Authority being arrogant and corrupt.
 
 
waxy dan
11:25 / 12.05.03
Wasn't that the idea of the Monarchy? Well, at least the original story where King loses the plot at Hawksmoor about what they're doing?
That the Authority had become this facistic organisation, and who were they to decide what was right. It reminded me a lot of the end of Alan Moore's run on Miracleman, when the superpeople start dissolving world governments, release all the prisoners, and so on. But only after they brutally murder everyone in London.

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And at the end, makes questionable all super-heorics. I'm not sure that it does. In the case of someone like Batman or Daredevil, they just deal with the violence they find. They don't attempt to change the society that creates it. I think it gets into very interesting and morally shaky ground when you look at the Avengers, the JLA, the Invisibles, or similar.

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"Who decides what makes a better world?" At present I'm assuming might is actually right. Taking ethics as being a consensual creation.

Drawing the comparison again with the Authority, maybe they were right to do something, even if it might end up being the wrong thing.
 
  
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