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Crystals and Psychic Protection

 
 
specofdust
10:24 / 10.05.03
I need help with a problem. Recently, I met up with an old friend who also acts as a spiritual guide. I was telling her about my recent spell of illness(which my doctor said was Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome), and she asked me what had changed when I became ill(around the new year) and again when I returned to full health(about a week ago). The thing is that the only thing that's really changed in my life round both those periods is that I got a girlfriend around new year, and then lost that same one a week ago. The girl's generally quite pessimistic or depressed, which I don't mind, 'cos most of the time so am I. But my friend thinks that my girlfriend was the problem. She says my aura is too open and I basicly get affected by the way other people are feeling to the extent that I feel pretty much like them. The solution she said was to go and find out about crystals and psychic protection because without that I would always end up being affected by the people I spend my time around.

So now the part where you at home can join in. Does anybody know anything about psychic protection or crystals? This is about the only place that I trust to give me decent information 'cos most of the books in my local bookshop look like their written by people after the money. I'd appreciate even just pointers in the direction of information.

Thanks for any help, specofdust
 
 
ciarconn
12:13 / 10.05.03
You have to learn to close yourself.
There are even some rituals that could help you with this.
Visualize a hole in your stomach, and then use your Will to close it, like a typical diafragm.
They say it's like learning to ride a bike.
 
 
Dances with Gophers
20:59 / 10.05.03
Another visualization which has a similar effect is to imagine a large red Isa rune running from your throat to your navel. it works like an auric band aid.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:34 / 10.05.03
I'd totally disagree with your friend- no offence to her- I don't think crystals are the answer at all. I firmly believe that the only thing rocks are good for is focus. Nothing you dig up from the ground that looks pretty has the power to protect you and neither does a simple ritual, spell, chant blah blah.

ciarconn is right- you have to learn to close yourself and while some ritual magic might help it's something that needs to be done over a long period of time with a lot of care and attention because you have to do it right. That's the thing about protection- go too far and it can be harmful, don't go far enough and it can be harmful, go to a quack and it can be harmful. There are an astounding number of people out there who know shit about it. This is the moment when you need to use your instincts and find someone who really can read auras.

You can try this but I'm making it up on the spot, just thought you should know.
Sit down and think about the energy you leak from your body. Everyone does it, consider the colour that it might be- mine would be white at the moment but more often then not is yellow. Colour helps us visualise and that's what you're going to need to do. Think about it until your aura becomes a force, coating absolutely every part of the surface of the skin, it might be more helpful to think of it as your own magnetic field actually. Then you need to have a discussion with yourself about the parts of that field that let other people in, your aura/field needs to be constant, you can build it up the low points but that requires a lot of energy. If there seem to be holes then you can weld sides together or patch them with other material...

see the power of imagery at work. I feel like such a hippy and that's got to be bad for my wardrobe.

I don't like the hole in the stomach thing- that's like saying, hey, let's create a hole and then block it up again. It just doesn't seem to work. Can we not attempt to fix the problem that's actually there? Half-arsed images for a half-arsed magical world... yuk.
 
 
specofdust
20:10 / 11.05.03
Are crystals considered a protective item in any magick? I'm just curious as she is someone I respect alot and it seems surprising that she would wear something that was meaningless.

The idea of searching for the holes in my aura sounds a good one and I'll try that.

Does anybody know a good place to start for ritual magick? As you say Anna,this needs to be done over a long period of time and it needs to be done right. So it would be nice to know roughly where I should be looking. Thanks anyway
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
00:44 / 12.05.03
Crystals are seen in a variety of different ways. Its really sort of up to the user. Back a millennia ago or so (and I know this is just me babbling about my weird ancient history knowledge) when wizards and sorcerers were all the rage, Many magicians claimed to have crystals of life, crystals of evil, etc. Personally, I think most of them were half-assed and full of crap, but there you have it. I have to agree with Anna that crystals are generally just for focus, but anything’s possible. I know people who swear by them, so maybe I just haven’t the knack for them.
 
 
Quantum
08:09 / 12.05.03
I basicly get affected by the way other people are feeling to the extent that I feel pretty much like them
Sounds like you're looking for a cure for empathy. Is it such a bad thing?

My girlfriend is over-empathic and is studying a crystal healing course, I'll try and get her advice for you. My advice is to spend time around happier people, or make the people around you happier. If you're naturally empathic you attract moany depressing people who drain you a lot, so beware that too- don't give away too much energy, it'll make you ill.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
10:36 / 12.05.03
Are crystals considered a protective item in any magick? I'm just curious as she is someone I respect a lot and it seems surprising that she would wear something that was meaningless.

Well it's a bit of a new age thing isn't it. There's probably a hundred new age books and websites that attribute inherent magickal powers to specific crystals. Which is fair enough, really, if your friend buys into this paradigm and it works for her then its no less implausible than sigil magick. If you carry a lump of crystal in your pocket and believe that it protects you from 'psychic assault' it'll probably do so to some extent.

Personally, I don't think getting yourself a crystal from a new age shop for this purpose carries a great deal of oomph to it, as it feels too convenient and there's not much personal investment of power in an off-the-shelf remedy. But maybe it'll work for you. I could conceivably make up a bag that works in a similar way, as a talisman to 'strengthen your aura' or whatever you consider to be the problem. My consulting magician rates are very reasonable. But you may want to look into some long-term solution that doesn't revolve around an external fetish object such as a crystal or talisman.

There are numerous methods of 'strengthening the aura' (I'm placing this in inverted commas as it's a convenient metaphor for a more complex process) but they're all fairly long-term things, none of this stuff will work overnight. The effects will take place very slowly but have an accumulative lasting effect. Methods can range from practising the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP) every morning and evening, to visualising your aura as a shining suit of flexible liquid armour for ten minutes every day, to taking up a martial art - nothing develops your sense of personal boundaries (both physical and emotional) like full-contact sparring.

Acquiring a protective fetish object may sort you out for a short period, depending on how it's approached, but would be best considered as a short term fix to clear your head enough to develop your own sense of psychic boundaries.
 
 
Rev. Wright
17:24 / 12.05.03
You have to learn to close yourself.


Yeah, shut out the whole world and stay indoors.

Sealing oneself off from the external reality is potentially dangerous, isolating one from energy that sustains and informs us monkeys. The key is to adopt a vibration that will repel and filter harmful energies. (energies are implied here in the broadest sense of the term) Although krystals have associations to the middle class/age crisis of spirituality commonly known as NEW AGE, they are very effective tools and guide entities.

The paradigm, if it must be, is that krystals hold a particular vibrational structure that, like a tuning fork, can generate sympathetic resonance with elements within ones own being. With some information and intuiting one can select minerals that can stimulate desired effects. Meditation upon the mineral consciousness will also assist insight.
 
 
specofdust
13:54 / 13.05.03
You know Quantum, I am looking for a cure to empathy. True, it's not such a bad thing when your only aware of the feeling others are going through, but when you actually feel whatever their feeling as strongly as they do, and you're totaly physicly drained by it, it becomes a really big problem. I was also told by my friend to spend time around happy people, but like you say I attract moany depressive people so it's not easy. The problem is as you say, giving away too much energy, I'm ill because of it, and have been for 4 months now.

If you have any cure for empathy, or as it is in me, over-empathy then I would greatly appreciate it. As for closing myself, I'm trying during meditation.

Intrestingly enough Gypsy I actually gave up a martial art (Tae-Kwon-Do) because of becoming ill. I would take it up again, but I just don't have the energy too. Thanks again
 
 
Salamander
14:52 / 13.05.03
Crystals always bemuse me as a subject, despite the NEW AGE tag every one seems to not mind throughing out as though any ad hominum arguement could apply. The question is, what makes crystals so special other than they're pleasant to look at? Why not take any lump of matter and 'enchant' it for protection. Sure the LBRP would be a better long term solution, but why not both, keep the lump of matter as a kind of mnuemonic spell reminder or some such? I've noticed that energy follows attention, if you get distracted or forget that LBRP you did in the morning, not going to do you much good, but ahh, I got this lump of atoms that serve as a reminder/spell.
 
 
Rev. Wright
16:16 / 13.05.03
The question is, what makes crystals so special other than they're pleasant to look at?

Psst, they keep secrets hidden in these papery things called books:

 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:54 / 13.05.03
Sealing oneself off from the external reality is potentially dangerous, isolating one from energy that sustains and informs us monkeys.

I don't think anyone has been advising that closing yourself off entirely is a good idea. The point is that this is a permanent problem that shouldn't be dealt with through temporary and transient measures. Crystals are things you carry with you, they should not be used as a crutch to solve a problem that is integral to a person.

The question is, what makes crystals so special other than they're pleasant to look at? Why not take any lump of matter and 'enchant' it for protection.

A little common sense and instinct here please! Crystals come from the ground, they are naturally formed, that's precisely why they're a good material for focus. They're representative of the earth and can channel huge amounts of power- they're massively useful for invocation, rituals that involve energy and they can act as anchors. Personally, protection-wise, I wouldn't use them outside of a specific and ritualistic environment.
 
 
specofdust
18:52 / 13.05.03
I understand that crystals are going to help with focus,and channeling of energies, so should I use them while meditating to focus on healing my aura? I've been told by someone that that would be a good idea. Is there anything I would be able to carry on me that would aid in protection on a day to day basis?
 
 
Salamander
19:53 / 13.05.03
Ok, so let me get this strait, because a book endorses crystal, and common sense reinforces that, that makes crystals superior? I understand they come frome the earth, but so do other rocks, fossils, crude oil, ect. And I know they channel power and on and on, but I mean really, is it the crystal or you? I think its you, the magician, and not the crystal. But I won't challenge common sense, no sir, and I certainly won't challenge the wisdom of a good book.
 
 
Rev. Wright
21:37 / 13.05.03
The point is that this is a permanent problem that shouldn't be dealt with through temporary and transient measures.

IT is as permanent as you see IT

crystals superior?

I don't recall a hierachical polemic being expressed or do I?

i think its YOU, the MAGICIAN, and NOT the crystal.

My paradigm is more bigger than yours, blaaah



fNORD
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:20 / 13.05.03
I understand they come frome the earth, but so do other rocks, fossils, crude oil, ect.

I don't see why those things shouldn't be used in precisely the same way but they're all natural too. It's through a method of synthetic refinement that these things stop working so well. Basically I think a crystal would work better than a varnished piece of wood or a clay pot because they've been changed, coated and adapted.

IT is as permanent as you see IT

Yeah but say you wear this gem round your neck and then, one day, leave it at home... do you see what I'm trying to say here? I just don't think that a crystal is going to change the way you react to things independently of the crystal.
 
 
Salamander
22:51 / 13.05.03
Yeah, thats what I thought anna, pretty things will always be more jewelry to me than anything else...
 
 
Salamander
22:53 / 13.05.03
No it isn't will you think I'm crazy, mines bigger, way bigger, its BIG, like something BIG, well it is,
 
 
Rev. Wright
08:53 / 14.05.03
Yeah but say you wear this emotional issue round your life and then, one day, leave it alone... do you see what I'm trying to say here? I just don't think that a emotional issue is going to change the way you react to things independently of the emotional issue.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
09:30 / 14.05.03
Ok, so let me get this strait, because a book endorses crystal, and common sense reinforces that, that makes crystals superior? ...but I mean really, is it the crystal or you? I think its you, the magician, and not the crystal.

You could look at it in terms of a shamanic model where everything in the world/universe is considered to be a 'living entity' in some sense, therefore various rocks, stones, plants, etc can be 'befriended' and turned into allies. Or put in Quabbalistic terms, everything that exists in Malkuth is an emanation of the The Divine and therefore contains a part of it.

From this perspective, its not that the crystal is imbued with some kind of special powers but that it exists as a mineral intelligence - a living being that can be interacted with through magick. Obviously not alive in the same way as humans or cats or chimps are alive, but operating at some denser frequency.

An exercise based around this idea might be to hold a piece of crystal in your hand and try and sense what it's about, see if you can perceive its 'living essence' in any way, does it speak to you? Can you detect any process that could be described as communication taking place between you and the object you're holding, or is it really just a lump of dead rock which you're struggling to attribute meaning to.

By definition, this shamanic way of seeing isn't limited to crystals and rocks. Everything is alive in the universe. You could try making an ally out of a discarded cigarette end or a half-eaten packet of crisps if you like. Everything is Spirit. Crystals are frequently used as I think they're probably easier to 'communicate' with than a lot of denser organic and non-organic 'intelligences'. You'll probably find it easier to try the above exercise with a piece of quartz than with a CD or piece of an engine - but the same principle can apply.

Different types of crystals seem to have different 'frequencies of vibration' and are generally employed for different purposes. Rose quartz is generally associated with love, iron pyrite (iron pirate?)is used for wealth, and so on. The same principle can be seen at work in hoodoo conjure sorcery, black cat fur, gunpowder, lodestones, rattlesnake bones, roots and herbs, all operate as spirit allies that can be used in magick and put to certain ends.

I think at a certain point the issue of 'how it really works' becomes academic. Maybe everything in the universe actually is 'alive' and interconnected, or maybe these connections and perceived external intelligences are all just in your head and it's really your unconscious mind making it function. Who can know the answer to this in absolute terms? Whether it's a string of object associations that you've conditioned your deep mind to respond to, or whether your cigarettes can actually tell you stuff, who really cares so long as it works.

A paradigm is really just a way of thinking about something, and the processes at work in magick are generally a step removed from any intellectualisation that you may do around them. I'd say that it's best to go with whatever paradigm that gets the best results for you. Magick should be a living growing developing process of engagement with the universe, so you may find that six months down the line you have a completely different perspective on things anyway.
 
  
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