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The Natural Way
10:42 / 07.05.03
Anyone got any?

I've been to www.marveldirectory.com, but, being slightly useless bastards, they forgot to tell me so much as, y'know, WHAT THEIR FUCKING POWERS ARE. Thickies!

I'd like a bit of background info, too. The directory's stops with Xavier flying off with them to explore the galaxy. Sounds a bit out of date to me.

Want to start on a script today. Thanks guys.

(Oh, and BTW, I WILL be writing a script for Fraely very soon, so it isn't all super-doom and gloom!)
 
 
The Natural Way
11:12 / 07.05.03
Yes, yes, the New X-Men are great, aren't they? And we all love them.

But let's forget about them for a moment, shall we, and concentrate on me.
 
 
Char Aina
11:21 / 07.05.03
they were in the incredible hulk once duringthe peter david 'pantheon' run.

as i recall, corsair is mr summers senior, and father of all them mutant jocks.
hepzibah, or whatever is a feral alien girly, they have a 'heavy weapon' guy who looks a bit like the hulk if he were a fish-man, and then theres a guy whos name i forget. that guy has a hand that can turn into a blade, and he's prety nifty with it as you'd expect.


sorry i dont know more.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:24 / 07.05.03
Yeah, I've got quite a lot of info on ole fishy and Corsair, but very little on the cyborg krunt and Hepzibah. What kind of abilities does she have?
 
 
Hieronymus
12:20 / 07.05.03
Wasn't Vance Astro a member of the Starjammers?
 
 
The Natural Way
12:40 / 07.05.03
See, that's not what this thread's about - I expect YOU to tell ME.

Aksherly, the research isn't going too badly, but more info would go down a treat.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:03 / 07.05.03
Vance Astro was a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy, not to be confuised with the Starjammers.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhokay.

Dad Summers, aka Corsair, had these badass shootin' pistols that could disappear—they were stored in another dimension: the big jewels on his gauntlets were some kind of interdimensional gateway device—he'd topuch the gems and the pistols would materialize in his hands. Presumably this had some sort of advantage over, oh, say, keeping them in holsters, but I'm damned if I can think what it might be. He was a good hand with a cutlass, as well.

Mam'selle Hepzibah (who was named for the skunk in the old POGO comic strip) was, well, a humanoid skunk: her actual name was a signature of pheromone odors (although Claremont never really got into it, there's a lot that you could do with this—pheromones can provoke fight-or-flight responses, et cetera).

The team's medic was a talking bug who looked kind of like a helicopter: he was nicknamed Sikorsky.

Ch'od is the amphibious gentle giant, natural body armor and superhuman strength. And a good sense of humor.

Raza is the cyborg guy: he's Shi'ar (though he seems to have hair, instead of the usual Shi'ar feathers. He can do standard cyborg stuff—sooperdooper vision, mighty mechanical arm... I also remember that he can walk on walls and ceilings because of some magic footwear calkled "gravity soles." Raza's another one with interesting unexplored aspects to his character—he was a religious dissident, and spoke with a lot of "thee"s and "thou"s—a sort of ass-kicking Space Mennonite? The "religious fundamentalist terrorist" paradigm is something you could play with, in writing the character.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
13:08 / 07.05.03
The Starjammers aren't about powers, dude. They're space jockeys, freebooters, galactic desperadoes. Hepzibah gets fighty sometimes, I think, but mostly she's Corsair's hot feline girlfriend. Isn't the knife-hand guy a cyborg? He gets fighty, too, but I b'lieve he's the mechanic. And Corsair flies stuff. What's to understand? Oh, yeah, and the big guy, Ch'od, gets fighty when he likes as well.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
13:11 / 07.05.03
Oh, that's to understand. Boy, is my face red.
 
 
moriarty
13:19 / 07.05.03
Hepzibah is the Belle of the swamp, with many suitors, including Porky Pine, Albert Alligator and Pogo Possum himself. I'm unaware of any existing super powers.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:26 / 07.05.03
Fun facts: A male skunk's penis is only about as thick as a pencil lead: copulation generally lasts for about 15 seconds.

Write your own damn joke.
 
 
Optimistic
16:07 / 07.05.03
The Warren Ellis four parter featured wonderful work by Carlos Pacheco.
 
 
The Natural Way
16:42 / 07.05.03
Thankyou Jack.

Qual: I know they're not about the powers (they're about being pirates with honour like Han Solo), but that kind of info does come in handy......
 
 
bio k9
16:54 / 07.05.03
Hi, I'd like to write a story about some characters I know nothing about...please help me.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:01 / 07.05.03
Is this research for a script, 'runt? Cos you've done this before, yeah—asking for info on characters with whom you've only a glancing familiarity, with an eye towards knocking out a proposal...

And aside from my inherent distaste for franchises (which I won't go into here), that seems a dicey prospect, if you're looking to create sellable work. A story that (unbeknownst to you) retreads old ground is going to land in the trash can.

Let's say, f'rinstance, that I, a writer, haven't read a BATMAN comic since 1979... but I've got this great idea for a story where Batman is trapped in Arkham Asylum with the inmates, and it's a way to tell the history of Arkham, too. That's my high-concept slug line. Now, the end result may not be anything like the Grant's ARKHAM ASYLUM... but it hardly matters: an editor's gonna fling that thing off his desk like it's dogshit.

Now, I know Jemas has said that if Epic gets two good Dr. Strange proposals, they'll put out two Dr. Strange books... but I'll bet the rent that they won't be putting out two Dr. Strange books that essentially tell the same story, or even one that's simply a thematic retread of a previous version.

Putting a new spin on an old character is all the rage, yeah: but you should be familiar enough with the character to know whether or not your spin is, in fact, new.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:02 / 07.05.03
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd bioK9 nails it in one line.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:06 / 07.05.03
(By the way, this "Sherlock Holmes" guy—his schtick is that he's some dude with a funny hat, right?)
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
17:30 / 07.05.03
I was just being silly, Runce.
 
 
grant
18:26 / 07.05.03


Conversely, here.
 
 
Jack Fear
18:39 / 07.05.03
Interesting. Raza, as written by Warren Ellis, has "[s]omewhere in his system ... cybernetic parts that will not allow Raza to die of natural causes. He is nearly immortal."

That'd be Ellis revisiting LAZARUS CHURCHYARD territory, then.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:17 / 07.05.03
Seven! Seven oft-repeated ideas! Bwa hah ha ha!

How about Binary, or Christopher Summer's lousy parenting skills (he only realised a couple of years ago, after the search for Cyclops, that Scotty's eye-beams projected concussive force rather than heat energy)...I thinkyou probably need a list of comics and collected editions, rather than a quick breakdown of whether Ch'od could take B'Nee and C'Cil, Runce...
 
 
Sax
08:07 / 08.05.03
There was that Starjammer who had "recordovision" or something as well, wasn't there? He could video stuff with his eyes and play it back, kind of like a Police Video Unit. Good for battle de-briefings and stuff. What was his name?

C'cil Bee D'mil, I think.
 
 
Sax
09:09 / 08.05.03
But seriously, Runce, how many of these Marvel scripts are you doing? And are you coming up with stories and welding Marvel characters to them, or letting the charactes suggest the stories?

I only ask because my one and only effort for this, which I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with, was a story suggested by the character and not the other way round. Interested to see what others are doing.
 
 
The Natural Way
09:46 / 08.05.03
how many of these Marvel scripts are you doing? And are you coming up with stories and welding Marvel characters to them, or letting the charactes suggest the stories?

A bit of both, really. I'm not sure how it works. There's a significant amount of reimagining going on, coupled with as much reading and internet guff as I can get my hands on. I've probably given the impression that I'm looking up one site and asking you lot to fill in the blanks, but that's really not the case. I've got quite a lot of info on the Jammers now.....

In the end, I'm never going to be familar with the complete history of characters that have been knocking about the Marvelverse for 20 odd years - so yeah, it's a gamble. But I'm making every effort to take them to new places, to do things with the continuity that either definitely haven't or, as far as I can tell, are unlikely to have happened before. And anyway, Jack, you should know that very often what makes a story *different* is in the telling.....

Haus: I was just underlining the fact that the site I originally went to didn't even have very basic information on some of the team members. I'm not actually huge on the whole super-fight thing and I'm very definitely interested in the Jammer's major story/continuity beats.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:06 / 08.05.03
I have to say, sometimes it gets really depressing being treated as an excited, over-exuberant (but a little bit stupid) child. Hello! I do think about this entry-level stuff, y'know....
 
 
Marian
10:35 / 08.05.03
You don't have to justify yourself to the people here. Remember, they might just all be assholes.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:09 / 08.05.03
Can't get myself into that headspace, I'm afraid. I know that they're not.
 
 
Marian
11:39 / 08.05.03
That's sweet, but it doesn't change the tone of some of the posts directed at you. With people here strongly giving out the feeling that they think you're an asshole, why do you still want to be on their team?
 
 
The Natural Way
13:26 / 08.05.03
Because I'm pretty sure they don't think I'm an asshole, just....err...*misguided*. It's annoying sometimes, yes, Auntie Marian, but it's a different thing.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:37 / 08.05.03
Marian: "Round these parts, we play rough and we shoot straight, and that's how we likes it.

I certainly didn't mean to patronize—I was offering what I thought was friendly advice from one writer to another, considering that I have, myself, done the same damn thing and reaped the whirlwind for it—and I think the 'runt took it (largely) in the spirit intended. I put it over the line (reaching for comedic effect), and apologize for that.

And, y'know, even if I did think the 'runt was doing The Stupid Thing (which isn't necessarily the case here), that doesn't mean I think he's an arsehole. People we like can do dumb things, and still we like them.

A slightly belated welcome, by the way. Hope you stick around.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:55 / 08.05.03
Sax: thinking about it a bit more, I attempt to prise out the essence of a character/concept first and then work out from there (I'm not that interested in all the complicated ins and outs of relationships/personalities etc - with this Epic business, I think it's probably more important to remain faithful to the core ideas than it is to get bogged down in all that crap. Obviously, I'll keep the important stuff - if I was writing Wolverine he'd have to be a beserker hardarse ninja - but I'm not that interested in whether or not Corsair likes pizza). Simple, really. Probably what everyone else does, TBH. And it doesn't take long to suss out how to play MU stuff. Power Pack: family (personalities reflecting their powers), Starjammers: honorable thieves (Robin Hood, Han Solo and various B&W films about pirates being the obvious influences I'd gun for).

I like the idea of doing the Jammers, 'cause, like PP, if Marvel don't want to know, I can easily retool the stuff for my own japes and larks.
 
 
Sax
14:23 / 08.05.03
I've hit the other side of the net... the story I've written is just so the character it's based upon that I couldn't retool it for anything other than a very pale imitation of what is already a third-rate Marvel character anyway, and I can't work out if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
 
 
Marian
14:23 / 08.05.03
Thank you. Generally, it's quite nice to be here and most folk are very eloquent.
 
 
Char Aina
18:36 / 08.05.03
is there a case for saying that marvel's character based world asks for an approach like the runce's?

if you are wanting to write a space pirate story for them you kinda have to get with the starjammers, dont you think?



aye, well, good luck, and if it gets done i'd like a read.
 
 
The Falcon
00:15 / 09.05.03
I'd like a read anyway.
 
  

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