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Aquatic Apes

 
 
Lionheart
05:55 / 06.05.03
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/interview/story/0,12982,946539,00.html

The aquatic theory of human evolution was first advanced by marine biologist Professor Sir Alister Hardy in New Scientist in 1960. He posited what may have happened during the Pliocene epoch, which lasted about five million years and for which no fossil information exists - the "fossil gap". In an emerging African continent scorched by drought, our ancestors entered the Pliocene as hairy quadrapeds with no language and left it hairless, upright and discussing what kinds of bananas they liked best. What happened in between? Hardy came up with a startling suggestion.

It was generally accepted that apes evolved into humans when they were forced because of climate changes to descend from the withering trees to live on the arid savannah. Hardy thought instead that our ancestors' physiology changed dramatically when a population of woodland apes became isolated on a large island around what is now Ethiopia. Although the waters eventually receded and the apes returned to land, their aquatic adaptions remained. This temporary semi-aquatic existence would explain why humans - genetically so close to the chimpanzee and gorilla - grew to differ from them in so many ways.

Human beings are the only naked bipeds. We carry a layer of subcutaneous fat substantially thicker than in any other primate. We exude, through our eyes and sweat glands, greater quantities of salt water than any other mammal. We are the only species of mammal to mate face to face, other than aquatic mammals. We are the only primate capable of overriding our unconscious breathing rhythms, alongside the elaborate use of lips and tongue, to produce speech ability which separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom. We are also the only primate with a descended larynx, thought to increase the variety of sounds we can produce.

Hardy argued that these features indicate a level of adaption to an aquatic environment. Thus, humans become bipedal to wade in water, and lost their hair to streamline their bodies for swimming. The fat layer kept them warm and buoyant, their secretions prevented build-up of excess salt from sea water and their larynx was protected against submersion. Language evolved because glare from the water meant signalling was no longer an efficient means of communication.


So maybe Lovecraft was right about the Deep Ones?

And maybe this fits in with that city found near the coast of Cuba.
 
 
Quantum
09:03 / 06.05.03
I'm reading the Aquatic Ape as we speak- it explains why our noses point down etc. and convinced me we were like otters living in the shallows and splashing about. Don't know about you but I love splashing about in the sea, maybe it's ancestral memory..
 
 
Leap
09:57 / 06.05.03
Whoa! Spooky!

I was just explaining the Aquatic Ape Hypothesis to our eldest, on friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Quantum
13:57 / 06.05.03
It's a funny old world, you bald swimming monkey
 
 
The Jungle Keeper's Old Smoky Pipe, Haunted by The Black Dog Spirit
14:26 / 06.05.03
It's a very interesting theory.

Maybe that's why we love to go swimming, take baths, and every baby know how to hold their breath underwater.

Maybe we are some kind of monkey/dolphin breed, and that's why we're intelligent and speech capable =)
 
 
Leap
14:33 / 06.05.03
Or maybe we should look a little closer at Sumerian mythology; which appears to claim that their gods were an aquatic race that bred with pre-humans to generate humans as slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Char Aina
18:58 / 06.05.03
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
*
03:11 / 07.05.03
The aquatic ape theory is merely a step in the direction of the Truth, which is that humans evolved from clams.

Poor little clams! snap snap snap!

Er, sorry.

Maybe some humans evolved from aquatic apes and some from terrestrial apes, and that's why some humans cling to Atlantis legends and some to Eden legends.

Maybe we are a human/dolphin hybrid, and that's why males have prehensile penises...

Oh, wait, you mean you don't?



Just as an aside, Leap, do us a favor. Next time you feel the urge to type that many exclamation points, go right ahead-- then delete all but one. It's easier on our eyes.

I'm studying human evolution right now, and I give this theory as much credence as the clam theory. Which is to say not much. And my peers think I'm the crazy one who clutches at theoretical straws.
 
 
*
03:20 / 07.05.03
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, the reason there is a fossil gap in the pliocene is not because we don't have fossils, but because that time period falls in between our currently-used dating methods. C-14 dating falls off around then, and potassium-argon dating isn't accurate except with much older fossils. There can also be issues of preservation and climactic change. The river ape theory is not the simplest theory to fit the facts-- merely the weirdest and most attention-getting.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
04:34 / 07.05.03
The river ape theory's been around a long while. But what were they doing in that water, I ask you? They'd have had to take to the water first, since they unquestonably evolved on land, hang out there for millions of years, then suddenly leave it. It raises more questions than it answers.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
04:37 / 07.05.03
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I meant to say that there wasn't enough time for all that in a mere five million years.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
18:18 / 07.05.03
This is one of those things that I want desperately to true, that I may spread as being true when I'm feeling ethically dodgy, but, really, I can't accept it as true for one reason: prune fingers.
 
 
Salamander
21:07 / 07.05.03
I don't know, Homo Erectus was extremely versitile with respect to evolutionary possiblity, but the whole eithiopia island thing is were the theory is shaky. Some fossil evidence of water criters on that part of the land in that era would help, but would be just as nonexistant. But many of the anatomical traits which are ascribed to a water existance can also be explained by the cranial fire hypothesis. For example, human beings have less hair to keep our larger brain cooled and to allow greater surface area to wind ratio for better cooling. But we retain our head hair to block the sun. Also our hairlessness can be explained by the Neotany hypothesis. We had to be less developed to pass through a smaller, bipedal apes cervix, and as a result develope longer and slower, but further than our ape cousins. As far as language goes, I'm still throwing my money in with Terrance Mckenna and his shroom in the diet hypothesis.
 
 
gravitybitch
03:38 / 15.05.03
I haven't heard about the Aquatic Ape theory in years! Nice to see people are still paying attention to it....

Other bits of "evidence" include how women stop losing the hair from their heads during and shortly after pregnancy - gives the babies something to hang on to while Mom's treading water - and the "excess" fatty tissue in female human mammary glands. Breasts tend to float, are available in a much wider range of positions than nipples that stay tightly attached to the chest wall, etc. etc. etc...
 
 
Leap
08:09 / 15.05.03
Why DO we have prune fingers?
 
 
grant
18:20 / 15.05.03
Our outer layer of skin is made of dead cells. As such, they're kind of flat, empty, and dry. If we soak in water, the dead cells absorb some of it and expand (since living cells are basically like little water balloons). It's the expansion that causes the pruniness.
 
  
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