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From her recent big-deal interview, wherein she uses a chaos-magick type analogy and evokes GM's comments in THE INVISIBLES about 'having the cheat codes to the universe.' Interesting.... she sounds sincere about it.
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MADONNA’S SPIRITUAL SIDE
Like everything she does, Madonna is relentless about maintaining her own good karma. She practices yoga, keeps a macrobiotic diet, and is a devoted student of Kabbalah, a mystical form of Judaism, which predates organized religion. Madonna says it has turned her life around.
Lauer: “You called it very punk rock.”
Madonna: “Yeah.”
Matt: “I don’t know what you mean by that. Why is that?”
Madonna: “Because to me punk rock is thinking outside of the box, outside of the program, outside the establishment. And that’s what it is.”
Lauer: “You said one time it’s like getting the codes to the universe.”
Madonna: “It is the code to the universe. Isn’t it amazing that there are laws of the universe that you can actually find out about, live your life according to and change the world for the better? Isn’t that amazing?”
Lauer: “So if I said to you what is your religion...?”
Madonna: “I don’t have a religion because I don’t like that word religion.”
Lauer: “You used to have a religion.”
Madonna: “What was it, I was raised a Catholic. But that was something that was imposed on me by my family.”
Lauer: “So if someone asked you, you would say I have no religion, I’m spiritual.”
Madonna: “I’m a Kabbalah.”
Madonna regularly attends classes at the Kabbalah Center in Los Angeles, as do husband Guy Ritchie and six-year-old daughter Lourdes.
Madonna: “My daughter goes to a spirituality class every Sunday where she learns about sharing and giving and the power of her words. And it’s changed her immensely. And my husband is very interested in it because he’s always been a very scientific person and was a total Darwinist when I met him. Wasn’t interested in God, the Bible, or any of those things, but because it’s so rooted in science, it’s something that he’s been able to take on board.”
Madonna has been studying Kabbalah for seven years and it is so important to her, that it is her teacher Rabbi Eitan Yardeni and not Mr. Ritchie whom she wanted us to interview.
Lauer: “So, you understand that you occupy a very important place in her life.”
Rabbi Yardeni: “Absolutely, me and my teachings, absolutely.”
So what was it like when the rabbi met the Material Girl?
Lauer: “In walks Madonna.”
Madonna: “I was pregnant at the time, too. I was six months pregnant.”
Lauer: “Okay, so in walks a pregnant Madonna. So what was your image of Madonna before you actually sat down and met her?”
Yardeni: “Honestly, I didn’t know much about her.”
Lauer: “You knew who she was?”
Yardeni: “Of course I knew who she was. But I didn’t know much about her. I knew she was a rebel and that’s the reason I knew Kabbalah can be very powerful for her.”
Lauer: “I think it’s very obvious to see a change in her, certainly it’s easy to hear a change in her. What changes have you seen in Madonna?”
Yardeni: “Less judgmental, more tolerant, less ego, more humility, more compassion, less reactive, being able to see the bigger picture versus just reacting to pain and difficulty on a regular basis.”
Lauer: “We’ve all been to school. We know that some people are better students than others at any subject. So what percentage of people get this?”
Yardeni: “There’s some people who get just one percent of Kabbalah which improves their life one percent. And it’s all about how much effort you put into it. And not many people get it. Kabbalah is to everybody according to their level and their capacity.”
Lauer: “Where does Madonna fall in there?”
Madonna: “I so knew you were going to ask that question.”
Lauer: “Why not?”
Yardeni: “I can tell you that with no shame, Madonna is under the category of one percent of the people that get this.”
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