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The mathmatics of Nu.

  
 
Salamander
02:31 / 02.05.03
I have been working for most of my life to find a system to eliminate Pi. Don't ask why, I just don't like it. This is what I have going on in the area of transfinite number. Since I don't know how to make an infinity symbol, Infinity will be INF. Of course C=circumferance, d=diameter, r=radius and A=area. I've also made a number, which here will be PiINF. Why am I using Pi in my notation if I hate it so much, hey, I don't hate the letter, just it's value. Anyone with advanced mathmatical knowledge feel free to tell me I'm a perfect damned fool, I need the encouragement.

OK

II:3 "In the sphere I am everywhere the center, as she, the circumferance, is nowhere found."

In what sphere could a center be everywhere? Well, lets reduce this issue by a dimension to make it easier. The definition of the center of a circle is that point which has equal distance from all points along the circumferance. But Nu the circumferance is nowhere found. consider then an circle with C=INF. The d=Inf. As the radius would also be infinite. Now INF/2=INF. So any where along the diameters length would still yeild an infinite distance left to reach the circumferance. In fact, this means that any point within this special circle is the center.

Now Nu describes herself as infinite space,(I:22), which here would mean that our circle would have an infinite area. But how to describe this mathmatically? The area of a normal circle is A=Pi r^2. But Pi=C/d, which here is equal to 1, why? because x/x always is equal to 1,and our C and d both =INF, therefor, C/d=1, which here for the pupose of the next formula will be called PiINF. So A=PiINF r^2. Which means A=INF. Seems a round about way to describe something that seems obvious, but we also have a formula description for the cumunacative principle, a*b=b*a, obvious but we still have a formula. The only problem is this still has no practical appication, which in my eyes makes it a failed line of thought so far. Comments?
 
 
Who's your Tzaddi?
03:04 / 02.05.03
I repeat- you scare me.

Honest to dogness, I came online at this time in order to start a thread titled The Mathematics of Nu (or Nu-Meri-cs)and I stumble across this. Hermes,indeed.

Not an insane thought, mate. It's the wakeup call (and with the appearance of Fetch, get ready for the fun...)

The age of Math is upon us. I'll be back in 6 hours with my notes and a very lengthy post
 
 
LVX23
05:40 / 02.05.03
In what sphere could a center be everywhere?

An infinite sphere, of course (as you pointed out).

A physical correlary is to be found in astrophysics and the idea that the expansion of the universe is an isotropic one, expanding equally from every point.

II:3 "In the sphere I am everywhere the center, as she, the circumferance, is nowhere found."

I:1-4 "Had! The manifestation of Nuit. The unveiling of the company of Heaven. Every man and every woman is a star.Every number is infinite; there is no difference."
 
 
Quantum
10:17 / 02.05.03
Great thread! Who or what is Nu in this context?
Practical applications for this? hmm....

"A physical correlary is to be found in astrophysics and the idea that the expansion of the universe is an isotropic one, expanding equally from every point."
Hubble expansion, because space is expanding- for those readers (lurkers) not familiar with astronomy, imagine the universe is a cake and the stars are raisins. As the cake rises, all the raisins get further apart, thus isotropic expansion.
 
 
LVX23
17:00 / 02.05.03
Mmmmmm, Universe Cake.
 
 
Salamander
17:13 / 02.05.03
The thing I'm trying to do is mathmatically describe the body of Nu, which I think is some sort of multidimensional fractal building on itself. The universe I think is still under construction. I see finished products nowhere. In Einstiens cosmology, he describes the universe as being infinite and bound, go in one direction long enough, you come back to the same place, perhaps we are on the "line" of this infinite circumferance, Or we are on the surface of an sphere of INF circumferance, like G.M. wrote about, or maybe it's completely beyond geometrical anology, and this is the only way my monkey brain can interpret it. I don't know, I need help, this is too big for me, anyone that has any ideas, 2 sentance posts to two pages, I don't care, share man share!
 
 
LVX23
17:51 / 02.05.03
Hermes wrote:
I'm trying to...mathmatically describe the body of Nu, which I think is some sort of multidimensional fractal building on itself. The universe I think is still under construction. I see finished products nowhere.

Fractal indeed. I can't imagine it anyway else. Holographic, and perhaps beyond the current mathematics. I suggest looking into nonlinear dynamics as a descriptor language for the evolving fractal of Nu (esp. phase states and fractal boundaries). Recursion is going to be absolutely essential to the formula, IMO. However, I don't think you'll ever find a finished product, especially with the predicate that the universe is infinite - How could it ever finish?
 
 
Salamander
18:02 / 02.05.03
Definitly LVX, an artwork permenantly in progress. Also I thought of something while eating a salad. Crowley says the basic mathmatical description of the universe is 0=2, but this can only be described as 1+(-1)=0. But he also writes on the enochian calls that call 1 is known to us as 0 but to them as 1. consider then PiINF, PiINF=C/d, or INF/INFwhich of course equals 1. Two infinities, the circumferance divided by the diameter, a point extended to the circumferance, perhaps I unwitingly produced another glyph for illumination? Two infinities that divide AND unify, it's too much.
 
 
Professor Silly
18:38 / 02.05.03
This touches upon something I've had trouble with recently. In my studies of Egyptian God-names I've noticed that the final-t denotes feminine attributes ("Ra" describes the male sun-god, "Rat" represents his female counterpart). Likewise "Nu" describes the (male) sky-god, and "Nut" or "Nuit" his female counterpart--the goddess of the sky. Same story with "Mu"/"Mut" etc etc etc.

Now I'm forced to wonder--shouldn't the male principle Crowley invoked in the second chapter of the Book of the Law have the name "Had" rather than the feminine "Hadit?" Perhaps the Nuit/Hadit feminism serves to counterbalance the overall masculinity of the Age of Osiris as well as Ra-Hoor-Khuit (a crazy combination of Horus and Ra)....

Thoughts?
 
 
Who's your Tzaddi?
19:35 / 02.05.03
Nuit.Hadit.Har(lequin).
 
 
LVX23
20:34 / 02.05.03
Aye, 0=2

Aleph Lamed (but note how 3 is implicit here: Aleph(1) Lamed(2), and the union of the two, a third).

Not sure how this applies to your math, Hermes...But 0=2 may provide some sort of boundary as a statement of identity.
 
 
The Fetch
21:27 / 02.05.03
Hermes,

If you are trying to eliminate Pi, then perhaps you would appreciate the work of Bucky Fullmeister? and "Bucky Balls". I regret the last name eludes me, but he has already worked out all the mathematics to eliminate Pi, wherein he uses hexagons as his main building block. Perhaps someone else can find some info?

For my part, I am dealing with the Speech Religion of the Gods, and this I know for a fact is predicated on Pi and setting Numbers/Letters/Sounds against 666 and Pi. Since Crowley is a referring to mythological concepts (instead of literal concepts), then this piece is easier to decipher.

First of all it is easier of one has a concious understanding of what is referred to as "correlational diameters". They don't exist except as a product of time, meaning that periods of Time are the defacto 1, or the defacto diameter.

In order to accomplish this, it was necessary to find a "value and order to the English Alphabet" (it always existed as a product of the hyper Initiated Orders, but noone will admit to that), and equally, to assign symbological meanings to the English Letters/Symbols.

To this end, since I have not released my information formally, you can visit a sight called www.resurrectisis.org, to get a feel for what this entails. This gentleman and I have conferred, and I will say that he is accurate (dead on) on SOME of his conclusions, but far from wholly accurate.

Lets take the word TODAY. It's "diameter" is a representation of TIME set against 2 principles: The Noon Zenith as represented by the Letter T (a measurement of the Sun at maximum height in the sky), and a Sunset, as represented by the Letter D. Now we apply a simple deductive logic: if TD(AY) is representative of Noon to Sunset, then is there not then a D in the front to signify the Sunrise? Indeed, although not "visible", logic says there must be, hence the "correlational diamter in time" of "today", meaning a DAY, is represented by a sequence of D-T-D-T-D-T, etc.

The "correlational diameter" of this 24 hour period is from T-D-T-D, wherein the Ordinal Values of T and D are 20 and 4 respective, or 20+4 = 24 hours. This "correlation diameter", then, will find it's "exaltation", or absolute value, on the day of the Equinox. It's cardinal value will be, of course, shifted 90 degrees in this larger annual circle at the time of the solstices.

In otherwords, we are using Letters to describe a Geometric Principle of 3 dimensional space in a larger "space time" continuum.

T-Day.

The Next Correlation Diameter is a word called MOON. If you recall the principle of eliminated the second Letter, the Moon, then, has a value of MON, or Monday. The Esoteric Number of the Moon can be easily shown with some 2nd grade astronomy:

Revolution in Orbit
The Moon appears to move completely around the celestial sphere once in about 27.3 days as observed from the Earth. This is called a sidereal month, and reflects the corresponding orbital period of 27.3 days The moon takes 29.5 days to return to the same point on the celestial sphere as referenced to the Sun because of the motion of the Earth around the Sun; this is called a synodic month (Lunar phases as observed from the Earth are correlated with the synodic month).

Since the Isisian Codes is a system of encoding the Ancients knowledge, the word MOON, or MON, has an esoteric value related to, what is again, the Correlational Diameter in Time of the MOON's orbit, and since the Sidereal orbit is 27.3 days, it's correlational diameter in time is 27.3 days/2 = 13.65, or the Letter

123456789-1234567
ABCDEFGHI-JKLMNOP

M=13 (and 4)
O=6
O=6
N=5

--M.OON =
13.665, or MON = 13.65.

In otherwords, the Esoteric Value of the word MOON is really its cleverly concealed CODE for its CORRELATIONAL DIAMETER in TIME, wherein the word DIAMETER is comprised of the word TIME itself. In the case of the word M.OON, it's meaning is, "My TIME (DIAMETER) is a period of 13.665 days, or more closely, my DAY is MONDAY, or 13.65 days to my sidereal orbit.

The message becomes simple: you can't have a diameter without time because a diameter is a process of geometrical properties which does not exist without time, hence TIME and DIAMETER are the same, with only slighly variant modifications, depending on the skill level of the reader/interpreter, for since D and T are the same, we can show the formula DI(A)ME = TI(A)ME.

From TODAY we arrive at (D)IAME(T)R, and from MOON we arrive at MON DAY, and MON is 13.65 = its correlation TIME to the Moon's Sidereal Orbit.

The Next Correlation Diameter in Time is called GOD, which has a value of 7+15+4=26. Now sit back and approach this concept with a rational basis, rather than a religious basis, and free your mind for a secong of any Rabbinical Influences, for we are not attempting to re-create a Rabbinical System, but rather a Gematria wholly predicated on Isisian information and Letters.

That being said, we must, again, evaluate the number and order of the Letters as well as apply a "mystical significance" to the English Letters. The Letter G, by design, consists of a Letter T, contracted and fused to the end of a Letter C, the Letter T as if receding into the distance, wherin the horizontal of the T is at the Center of the C, and this forms the Letter G.

Again, we are dealing in a philosophical representation of a geometrical idea set into a space time continuum (known as conciousness on this realm).

Since we know that the Letter T is the representation of the Sun measured at Noon Zenith (exalted on the day of the Solstices, wherein the Isisian Code for the word solstice is that SOL'S T ICE is a cipher for SOL'S T = Summer T = Summer Solstice and T ICE = ICE T, or Winter Solstice..SOLS T ICE...), and since the Solstice was traditionally celebrated on the 22 day of the December, and since the Letter T is located at number 7 of the second half of the Alphabet (year), we can show that:

NOPQRSTUVWXYZ
1234567654321

T = 22/7 = 3.1428571 = A Tradtional Rough Estimate of Pi.

G, then, must be the Equinox, for the T, located at the Center of the C (The Earth) as a process of Longitude, it is at the Letter G that the earth will be in perfect balance, or T-D will have a value of 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of sunlight.

We can then simply show the design:

T UVWXYZABCDEF G

There are exactly 13 Letters from T to G, which is the number of Weeks from the Solstice to the Equinox. Again, we are dealing in periods of "correlational diameters" which are really a process and measurement of TIME (=DIAMEter).

Thus, the EARTH is measured from G, the Equinox's to T, the Solstice, and just as T-D has a seeming 90 degree (cardinal representation), so too does G-T. However, the Isisian Codes are designed in such a way as to be perfect in its represenation, for if T and D are the same value

1234
ABCD
QRST

Then we can replace G-T with G-d, since we know the code entirely, and call it GOD = 7+15+4 = 26 Weeks, or the EARTHS CORRELATIONAL DIAMETER in TIME from Solstice to Solstice or Equinox to Equinox.

Now you have your first "clues" into Isisian encryptian into the Rabbinical Texts as a process of "mystification" or what the Rabbis refer to as the TZIM TZUM = MUZT MYST = MUST MYST IF I (one), for both G and T "rest" on the 7th day (Letter)

1234567
ABCDEFG
NOPQRST

Does not "G-d" rest on the 7th day (letter). Yes. If you know the code. Does the process of the Solstices and Equinox's form the very "heavens and earth" that we exist on? Yes, G-d does create the heavens and the earth, but not in a superstitious way, but rather a very down to earth understanding of Geometry fused to a written code.

Now when you spin the Letter G on its center, what do you get? The Letter Pei! PI!

There are others, but that gets lengthy to explain.

We return to the crux of the topic:

II:3 "In the sphere I am everywhere the center, as she, the circumferance, is nowhere found."

However, to what degree do you understand the sphere as an Occultic concept? That, indeed, is the key here, for we are dealing in an Initiated form of Order with some knowledge of the ways of the Ancients. The Sphere is considered that which contains the Letters:

From the Sepher Yetzirah, Chapter 2, Vs 4

4. These twenty-two letters, which are the foundation of all things, He arranged as upon a sphere with two hundred and
thirty-one gates, and the sphere may be rotated forward or backward, whether for good or for evil; from the good comes true
pleasure, from evil nought but torment.

The Sphere, relative to Crowley, isnt dealing with some hyper understanding of physics; Crowley was a product of indoctrination into a science of Letters.

In the Sphere, I am always the Center is referring to this inverse relationship of the word relative to it's correlational diameter.

In the CENTER (visually) is the MOON, a word that means "13.65 = Sidereal Orbit Diameter in Time reading). I am FOREVER THE CENTER. MOON is not going to move as a word in the "sphere". It is sealed. MOON, therefore, is the Diameter, in an Occult sense. She, the Circumference, is PI, but is not encoded, hence is nowhere found.

This concept holds true for words as

TODAY
MOON
LIFE
GOD
SOLSTICE
EQUINOX
PLATO

among others. It is a concept wherein the words are encoding correlational diameters, and it is these "diameters" that take on the value of the CENTER, and nowhere is the word, or PI, referenced: it is, however, IMPLIED.

Here is some side information.

A DO NUT is a representation of NUT and GEB, wherein GEB is the CENTER, or the EARTH (in this case, nowhere found), and NUT is the SKY, or the ROUND PART of the DO NUT.

DO NUT...DONUT. NUT, then, is given another "cipher", or code, in that NUT is the LARGEST SPHERE of Earth (beginning with the CORE), and this word is called the AT MOST SPHERE, or more profanely, the ATMOSPHERE.

The Fetch
 
 
The Fetch
21:59 / 02.05.03
BTW..having read this:

Crowley says the basic mathmatical description of the universe is 0=2, but this can only be described as 1+(-1)=0. But he also writes on the enochian calls that call 1 is known to us as 0 but to them as 1. consider then PiINF, PiINF=C/d, or INF/INFwhich of course equals 1.

As for the part about that which is called 1 is known to us as 0 but to them it is one, I would have to agree wholeheartedly with this concept.

It is difficult to explain, but I use the idea of the Sphere as you have mentioned here and the Esoteric nature of the Letter M to describe this:

M is divided into its components of IVI. In the Center is V (reversed to form EVE), and the outer two "pillars" are then II, or Pi, referredt to as ADM.

In this case, ADM (1413=3.141) is known as the CENTER, or the 1, the Sun, or the Diameter, while V (EVE), is 666, but is the Earth, or the Circumference, but is viewed as the Center.

It is a form of logic that is quite prevalent in Illuminatus codings, and we can find this pattern everywhere when we become open to it.

The Fetch
 
 
LVX23
22:50 / 02.05.03
Just to clarify, that's Buckminster Fuller.
 
 
LVX23
23:05 / 02.05.03
The thing I really like about the Hebrew Qabalah is it's simplicity. From what I've seen so far here and from other sources, all attempts at an English Qabala have been excedingly complex and convoluted, relying on esoteric mathematical transformations and generally confusing the hell out of me.

If "The Law is for All", I hope somebody can figure out a system that makes sense to the majority of those who seek its wisdom.
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But this thread isn't about the English Kabbalah. I'd like to get more into the idea of "the circle of infinite circumference" (I'm looking in your direction, Tzaddi). Furthermore, could we explore the idea of the body of Nu as a dynamic nonlinear hologram existing within a fractal space?

Your comments are welcome...
 
 
Salamander
04:18 / 03.05.03
I know the theory your talking about ftech, but not in detail, I wanted to develope something wholly independant, so only skimmed it. As far as Pi goes, Pi=22/7=3.14 ect ect. What you are actaully doing to get this 22 is to mesure say 22 points along the circumferance, which means your not divising the circumferance, but just a polygon of 22 sides, each side one unit of what ever measurement system your using. which means Pi will forever be just a rough estimate yielding a nonterminating decimal. The chinese understood this, and worked Pi to 100 places if I remember correctcly, being the best estimate of its time. The methode they used was to transcribe polygons of ever increasing size to a circle, obviously the more sides to a polygon, the more it aproximates a circle, a circle then, is just a polyfon of an INF number of sides, all sides lengths=limit 0. The concept of the limit is important here, it was first postulated by Newton as a fluxion, and was the conceptual engine that made his calculas work. But it was a sloppy concept, and mathmaticians and physicists wanted something cleaner, hence the limit. The limit is also the solution to Zenos paradox, but thats off topic. A limit is basically a number that grows or shrinks, in this case shrinks to a certain terminator value, in this case zero. A number that is limit 0 is an infinitley small number until you take the limit, a step which causes the limit to collapse to an actual zero. This made calculus alot cleaner, and it makes the conceptualization of a circle as an infinite sided polygon possible. I will say this now, Acircle DOES NOT exist in nature. nowhere is there a perfect circle or sphere, just rough approximations, that is what makes our universe seem like it is flowing in time, our universe is a polygonal shape trying to achieve perfect circulartiy or shericalarity our whatever. It is a fractal, the most complex fractal, it is a nonlinear equation that includes transfinite numbers in its equation, it would literaly be a hyperdimensional shape growing in a fractal design, ever striving to achieve perfection as its formula outlines, but never being able to because a perfect circle is impossible. The great progression of the equinoxes is INF then, for the process will never end, time and space are infinite not only in xyz dimension, but also in t, and if what i suspect is true, there are actually an INF number of dimensions, grouped in threes that simply get more complex as you go Higher and higher in dimension, which means the universe is actaully INF-D. I'll try to produce more formulas for this once I get some more shrooms. This INF-d is the reson I think we can't go behond quantum mechanics, we are still trying to describe the universe with finite numbers.
 
 
Who's your Tzaddi?
18:07 / 05.05.03
If "The Law is for All", I hope somebody can figure out a system that makes sense to the majority of those who seek its wisdom.

You're looking at him


Tzaddi: Feeeeling Cocky.
 
 
Wombat
20:11 / 05.05.03
This is something that worries me too.
Pi doesn`t seem to me to be a constant.
It`s a measure of the curvature of space-time in the current region.
Currently this seems a major over-complication.
There is a version of QM which compares the multiverse to Indras net ( a lattice of jewels which reflect all the other jewels...or a really big hall of mirrors)..bohm..sarffati etc...
(oooh and wolfram..can`t believe the universe is a giant emegant alg. but it`s a good model)
The universe seems to me to be a fractal. Pi is very local.
I don`t believe current mathematics can describe it (Godel`s theorem)
But maths is the best bet till something better comes along.

If the fractal hypothesis is accepted (within certain energy limits)
A mind (define how you like) can effect every other jewel in the net. This would be an evolutionairy advantage to any life-form. If brain tissue (perhaps at the micro-tubule level) could make these changes pe
 
 
Salamander
16:34 / 06.05.03
I don't believe the universe is a emmergent solution either, just the best explanation I have going. The reason I have a problem with Pi is that it is a nonrepeating, nonterminating decimal. It is a bit of uncertainty, but not of the sort thats makes things interesting. It is an uncertainty because of a failure of understanding that the greeks had of numbers, and no one has tried to put it right. It was also the only irrational number they didn't deney existed. Pi is just sloppy mathmatics that has been around so long we've come to accept it. It's time to expand the horizon. It's time to understand what the cicle IS, if you can use an intransitive verb with such things. A circle is much more complex than we think, it is not a simple geometic constuction in the slightes, neither is a sphere, nor is it a basic one.

I like Hebrew kabala because it is far more symetrical than other kabalas.
 
 
Salamander
16:36 / 06.05.03
Wombat, you might want to look into holograohic theory, inras net is a very good anology to a hologram.
 
 
Dr. Valis
14:41 / 07.05.03
I'm curious, has anyone tried to use number systems other that base 10 to see if pi will terminate?
 
 
Quantum
14:50 / 07.05.03
(aside) Kabbalah is only valid in Hebraic IMO, because they naturally ascribe numbers to letters. Most languages don't so the gematria tends to be confusing and inaccurate. (/aside)
 
 
The Fetch
22:28 / 07.05.03
As far as the "physics" of Pi, I tend to agree with you all here, but that escapes the point I am making, and that is that a rather detailed understanding of Pi has always existed in the various Initiated Societies and it is Pi that is essentially the "god" that they worship as a process of the "Unknowable Name", and there is a complex set of gematrias and symbologies that were created around this numeric which became the modern religions and beliefs of Western Man.

As for the Judaic Kabballah, I show that the system, far from being "symmetrical", is really a "dreidle" in disguise, and like the dreidle, once momentum is lost, begins to collapse on its axis. Indeed, there are two matrices that I have identified with my esoteric numerics, and this second one is without a doubt the one that Crowley hinted at yet never revealed or figured out.

Indeed, when you examine each matrix, both matrices have 22 paths, but and the "sephirah" contain a dynamic wherein they are a cipher set unto themselves (translated as paths within paths).

Now as far as the word PATH goes, it is simply a cipher for the PTAH, the self actuated one, which is the Letter A, which is itself a pictogram of a PATH. The A and the H are the same, one an inversion of the other.

The A has 3 major sections, the TIP, which is the point, or the 1.
The Second section of the A is the Horizontal Line, which is akin to the LINE in metanumerics, wherein it the corners on the left and the right have values of 2 and 3 respective. This is being derived from Pythagorean Harmonics, and the Pythagorean Tetracys.

That being the case, the the bottom of the A has values left to right of 4 and 9 respective.

This forms the 3/4 of the Pythagorean Tetracys, or

--1
-2-3
4-1-9

This number would be encoded further into the symbolism of the PIne Cone, found throughout ancient literature.

What is important is that the values of the lines are

1
6
36

These are the sums of the digits

1
3
8

Or the Letter Sound of

A
C
H

A and ACH, then, are an inverse representation of the same concept, again, fused around PI, in an esoteric sense.

My point here is that we have ALOT OF TALENTED PEOPLE in the world today, and it stands to reason from where I stand that IF you wish to pass beyond the current dynamic, it makes sense that you first must come to understand the pillars upon which the current dynamic is predicated, reducing it to its most basic elements, and then craft formulas in a magical sense to neutralise the current formulas that are sealing the race in a myth and fog.

The Fetch
 
 
Salamander
23:25 / 07.05.03
Fetch please let this thread die in peace. Its obvious no one cares.
 
 
cusm
18:13 / 08.05.03
Pi is not the only irrational number that can not be defined. There is also i and e. The lot of them are a pain as they describe conditions that can not be defined by mathmatics, yet are necessary for calculation. They are what I like to refer to as "holes", as direct examination of them reveals only infinity...

For those who don't know, i is the square root of -1, the "imaginary" or 4th dimentional spacial axis. Its necessary in fractal calculations. e is the natural log, or that value where the derivitave of e^x = e^x. Its used in, well, all sorts of things in calculus where recursion is necessary, like differential equations. In the escoteric sense then, it can represent recursion itself.

Now, the golden apple to toss into the room, a mathematical oddity that ties it all together:

e^(-pi*i) = 1

In seeking to eliminate pi, one must also emply its siblings, for they are all a part of a whole.

Now, back up to the math that started this thread, a circle of infinite size. Here, C=pi*r^2, or inf=pi*inf, or pi=inf/inf or pi=1 !!! So, at infinity, pi becomes a singularity, a defined number.

Plug this into the equation above now:

e^(-pi i)=1
e^(-1 i)=1
e^-i=1 at infinity where pi is removed. The self recurses infinitely into the imaginary plane. It is pi then, ironicly, that holds us here in this reality. Or does it?

Further collapse shows that e=1^i, which is an intersting relation of itself but which allows e=1 and become defined also at infinity. It looks like the only thing truely lost at infinity then is i.
 
 
Soberman
18:23 / 23.03.04
INF is not a number, and therefore INF/INF has no meaning.
 
  
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