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Techniques for coping with loss

 
 
Hugh_DeMann
00:35 / 25.04.03
OK, so i know you people don't know me. And this is my first New Topic post.

But Olulabele's posts have hit home. How would/do we react when we lose our parents?...

I'm lucky, both mine are still here; although not together. But I have no grandparents. I'm 37. I have no idea how I'd react when I get that call.

I cannot really comprehend what Olulabelle is going through. Although I want to.

Losing your Father or Mother is THE biggest wrench in your life. Surely? People can phone and say 'I'm really sorry' forever, but was it really all their fault? I think not...

Discuss please?

Even though no-one knows me.
 
 
Laughing
01:24 / 25.04.03
Both of my parents are in poor health, especially my mother. Over the past few months I've been thinking too much about what would happen if either of them passed away. Who would I turn to for the help I that need too damn often? I have two teenaged brothers -- who'd take care of them? I'd want to, but I can barely take care of myself.

Christ. It's a gut-churning thought, isn't it? Best thing I can think of is to not dwell on it and tell both my parents that I love them more often.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
05:40 / 25.04.03
People can phone and say 'I'm really sorry' forever, but was it really all their fault?

What?

I don't think there's any patented foolproof method for dealing with it, just doing what you can while they're hear to try and minimise the guilt you may feel for not doing enough when they're gone. I've found using metaphors about how my Nan has just moved to a different address and hasn't sent contact details on yet, or still lives but in the past have helped me to deal, but whether that'll hold up with someone I'm close to, like one of my parents I don't know.
 
 
Ganesh
08:44 / 25.04.03
Depends on one's age. Losing one's mother in one's childhood is certainly reckoned to be one of the biggies, psychodynamically speaking. Losing a parent in one's late teens or twenties is considered - and I use the term advisedly - 'healthier', in terms of one's psychological development. Why? Because it's unconsciously more 'expected' than, say, the death of one's child or one's spouse. Also, an adult generally possesses more resources for dealing with bereavement than does a child.

I read a lot of the relevant literature when my father died suddely, around ten years ago now; I think it was one of my ways of coping (dynamic therapists would call it 'mastery'). I was in Adelaide, the other side of the world, and it was Christmas Eve. I'd just arrived and was preparing to travel up through the centre of Australia, spend New Year at Uluru then up towards Darwin. Perhaps my second or third thought was 'I'll have to cancel all this and fly home - fuck'. Long-haul flights over Christmas aren't much fun at the best of times, and the ho-ho-hoing airport Santas seemed, in my rather numbed state, both 'cruel and unusual'. I passed the flight in a daze, apart from when the piped headphones started playing Albinoni's 'Adagio' and I started crying (greatly upsetting my kindly but embarrassed neighbour).

There is no single way of "coping with it"; in a sense, even the term can seem faintly insulting at the time - one bristles at the suggestion, however gentle, that one 'cope with' the fact that one of the cornerstones of one's life has suddenly been deleted.

Th funeral helps, as does being occupied (although I briefly became quite phobic about having to talk to colleagues about it, in case I burst into tears; I wanted them to know, so they wouldn't make reference to my father, but I dreaded actually having to discuss it myself). I suppose I was lucky in that, despite having clashed violently with my father throughout much of my adolescence, I'd settled into a nice equilibrium with him, and I felt we understood each other. He'd accepted that I was never going to be like him, and started appreciating the things I was doing that he'd never done: delivering babies, travelling around the world... he was delighted that I was doing my medical elective in Australia, and one of the most touching/heartbreaking things was receiving a real 'gosh wow, it's so good that you're doing this' letter, several weeks after his death, it having been forwarded to me from Melbourne. For my part, I accepted that my dad wasn't an ogre, and hadn't been solely responsible for my parents' divorce.

So... I was lucky in not having to process too much guilt. There are regrets, of course - he never saw me graduate, he never knew I was gay - but it could've been much, much harder.

Elizabeth Kubler-Ross reckons that, when a parent dies, there's sometimes a sense of 'exhilaration' intermingled with the other feelings of bereavement - because one is theoretically freer to pursue one's own adult destiny (or whatever). This actually did reflect my experience, although it was a little while before I could appreciate it. When one of the cornerstones of my life was removed, also removed was one of the sets of opinions which (whether I liked it or not) exerted a strong influence on my life; I was more able to do what I wanted to do, without worrying about paternal (dis)approval. I like to think I would've come out as gay sooner or later (we were moving into a much more honest relationship than before) but I suspect it would've taken me longer to screw up the necessary courage if my father were alive.

I guess I'm saying it's not all bad; there's the occasional plus-point too. I don't think one ever really 'gets over' it - but, with the passage of time, one eventually gets around it, incorporates it into one's life.

Hmm, this has been much more about me than anyone else. Quite cathartic, though.
 
 
Ganesh
00:37 / 26.04.03
Incidentally, I think changing the title of this thread was probably a good idea.
 
 
Hugh_DeMann
15:23 / 26.04.03
Some wise words Ganesh. And yes, the original title was maybe a bit too specific.
 
 
gingerbop
10:17 / 09.08.06
Fuck. Just joined the club. It's not fun.
 
 
illmatic
10:37 / 09.08.06
Shit, Gingerbop, sorry to hear it. All the best.
 
 
subcultureofone
10:50 / 09.08.06
so sorry to hear this. hugs to you.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:53 / 09.08.06
Jesus, gingerbop. Yeah, many hugs.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:15 / 09.08.06
God. Really sorry to hear that, gb. Hugs and thoughts.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:35 / 09.08.06
Oh, gb, I'm so sorry.
 
 
Smoothly
14:40 / 09.08.06
That's a fucker, bop. I'm so sorry.
 
 
Bear
14:45 / 09.08.06
Yeah that's shit - take it easy bop.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
14:48 / 09.08.06
Take care, gingerbop.
 
 
*
16:47 / 09.08.06
Gingerbop, I'm really sorry to hear of your loss. Take good care of yourself. I'll be thinking of you.
 
 
netbanshee
17:47 / 09.08.06
Sorry to hear bop.

Let the barb know what we can do for you, if anything.
 
 
gingerbop
01:00 / 10.08.06
Feel a bit useless. I'm initiating lots of online "I'm sorry"ness which has no suitable response, nor use, as such. But in a big blurb of not knowingness and... fuck, I don't know what to say either. And I'm here. How's anyone supposed to know what to say? Thank you for hugs etc.

How do I convince mum and other village widows that bingo is an interesting passtime? And do they make large-print cards?

There's a strange sense of normality. We're still sitting down for meals, we're still chatting about the past- their honeymoon, different cars, dad putting big slices of lemon in sandwiches cause he thought that's what you do. But he's not going to walk in any more.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:06 / 10.08.06
I can barely imagine what you're going through, gingerbop, and my heart goes out to you. Lots and lots of love being sent to wherever you are.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
01:09 / 10.08.06
I know what you mean- sometimes the strangeness is mover overwhelming than the grief. But, shite though it sounds, it does get easier.
 
 
gingerbop
01:11 / 10.08.06
Of course. And Ma and Pa had shitloads of us kiddies, which is very fortunate now. My oldest bro is being amazing super busy organisation machine, allowing the rest of us to hug mum lots and make tea. Night night. Thank you all for distant support. It is appreciated. x
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:41 / 10.08.06
Thoughts and hugs from me also, gingerbop. There's another thread on this here, which contains some worthwhile contributions and might provide some comfort. I'm really sorry this has happened to you and your people.
 
  
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