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sobel
22:03 / 16.04.03
Ok here goes
watching the news showing breakdown of law and order in Iraq and comparing it to a programme on British telly last night, about a group of teenagers in Flint somewhere in USA.
(the place that was devastated by closure of General Motors (I think) factory, Michael Moore etc.)
The bored teens made a handheld documentary style film of a 'kidnapping' that they say the victim gave consent for.
There's an ongoing trial about the rights and wrongs of what went on.
In both places the rules of behaviour have taken a leap.
So left to their own devices how do humans build a new hierarchy?
What guides it between freedom and oppression?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
09:18 / 18.04.03
Saw a bit of the documentary about the troubled teens in Flint, sobel. Found it hard to work out what had actually gone on. Most of the chapos were fairly lumpen, unsympathetic, and seemed self-obsessed and desperate enough to have perpetrated a horribly scary scam on the poor "victim". But then, there were lots of moments where I could buy the opposite point of view put, that the female "victim" had been wise to it all and some disappointed adolescent crush on the ring-leader had stimulated her subsequent protests. I ended up thinking "a plague on both their houses".

As for the question about building a hierarchy, I don't think there's anything new under the sun in that business. It will always be the Law of the Jungle, tempered in larger societies with written histories and mass communications by a common acceptance of a degree of altruism.
 
  
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