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mr mcdonald has unusually large breasts

 
 
mondo a-go-go
19:47 / 20.06.01
has anyone else read fast food nation by eric schlosser?

may i suggest that if you still find yourself buying crappy fast food when you know that it's unhealthy and only puts money in the pockets of multinationals, then the expose of the slaughterhouse practices and the coverage of e.coli will make you think again....

now i know why i never did like hamburgers...
 
 
Ganesh
19:53 / 20.06.01
Relatively overpriced cack.

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ynh
19:57 / 20.06.01
For those hard of reading, a similar effect can be had with McLibel.

quote:It is a highly informative examination of the global food business, addressing issues such as the manipulation of children through glossy advertising, the promotion of an unhealthy diet, the exploitation of workers, the environmental damage caused by agribusiness, and the cruelty inflicted on animals in the production of commodities such as "Big Macs." You will never look at a hamburger in the same way again!
 
 
mondo a-go-go
20:08 / 20.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh:
Relatively overpriced cack.

[ 20-06-2001: Message edited by: Ganesh ]


i do hope you mean the food and not the book, sweetie. i mean, i know you prefer fruit or candy...
 
 
Ganesh
20:11 / 20.06.01
Ha! I meant the 'foodstuff', Honeypie.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
20:12 / 20.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Kooky G. McSmack:
now i know why i never did like hamburgers...


I love burgers. I hate fast food and the companies that own them.

But Kooky, get yourself some free range organic ground round and cook that sucker into one hell of a burger.

Mouth's watering as I type this.

Sorry for the drool.

Oh yeah.... did I mention I hate fast food and the companies that own them?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:11 / 21.06.01
Yes, you did. Have a gold star.
 
 
nul
07:23 / 23.06.01
free range organic ground round

I seem to have been under the mistaken impression that all meat products were organic. As well as all the vegetation I add to my burgers to overwhelm my tastebuds.

Mmm... Free range meat and meat byproducts.

And now I've editted it beyond repair. Way to go, Simpson.

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Lothar Tuppan
23:06 / 25.06.01
By organic I mean "grown with only animal or vegetable fertilizers as manure, bone meal, compost, etc."

No extra chemicals, antibiotics, hormones, etc.

Free range means (usually) that the animals were treated humanely and weren't kept in tiny cages or pens.

Some free range is more 'free' than others. Research into specific farms is essential for an informed decision.
 
 
nul
02:31 / 26.06.01
You don't grow cows, you raise them up from calves into the delicious sources of meat and meat byproduct that we all adore.

You mean they were treated humanely then shot in the back of the head. That's kind of like implying that a POW that was well-fed and given clean quarters then shot was treated humanely, isn't it?

Kind of loses it's shine when you point out what they do with the humanely treated animals.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
07:49 / 26.06.01
I want to grow cows like oranges. I want fields of cows, mooing in fear and ready for the harvest. I see tall, dark towers of incubation seeds, all filled with little bioelectric cowlets all producing methane and heat energy and meat.

This is the Matrix.

But we must all be alert to the coming of the One. The Cow of power, who will transform our world and make us all eat soy and gravel...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
07:49 / 26.06.01
Cows with Guns?
 
 
nul
15:17 / 26.06.01
Uh oh. They're onto us, MilkMama. Head for the hills! *scurries*
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
17:11 / 26.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Brenden Simpson:
You don't grow cows, you raise them up from calves into the delicious sources of meat and meat byproduct that we all adore.

You mean they were treated humanely then shot in the back of the head. That's kind of like implying that a POW that was well-fed and given clean quarters then shot was treated humanely, isn't it?

Kind of loses it's shine when you point out what they do with the humanely treated animals.


Why do I feel that I should just pull out my saved posts from the 'nature' aspect of violence thread?

The grown was from a dictionary definition. Organic, used by farmers and ranchers basically means without additional chemicals, hormones, antibiotics added to either the feed of the animal or the soil or water of the vegetables (add pesticides to the list for organic veggies). It's a common term and even most large grocery stores will have an 'organic section' in their produce department.

As for the POW comment... you're just being incendiary again aren't you?

I'm a omnivore. I eat veggies, fish, meat etc. I've raised some of my own livestock and I've grown a lot of my own vegetables. Almost all of your food has to die in order for you to eat (unless all you eat is fruit). Unless someone is going to try to become a 'breathairian' (this is a real group of people who believe they can go from vegetarians, to raw foodists, to breathairians who only live on air) all I'm saying is take responsibility for your food.

If I choose to eat something that has to die and I don't have the means to do it myself, I can at least choose sources that give them a decent quality of life before that event.

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mondo a-go-go
14:18 / 27.06.01
sheesh, you bay area hippies


i don't eat meat, mostly coz it doesn't agree with my insides and gives me horrible stomach pains, but i do eat fish. i don't like it when it turns up on my plate with face still attached, but i reckon if my survival relied on it, i could kill a fish. some reason i don't think i could do the same with a mammal. which may or may not be pathetic.

nick, i think i want to marry you and have your little babies.

if i hadn't been married off once already this week...
 
 
Molly Shortcake
22:18 / 18.07.01
All animals in all instances are treated 'humanely'. There's nothing we do to animals that we haven't/won't do to ourselves.

[ 19-07-2001: Message edited by: MC Ice Honkey ]
 
 
Dee Vapr
22:38 / 18.07.01
quote:Originally posted by MC Ice Honkey:
All animals in all instances are treated 'humanely'. There's nothing we do to animals that we haven't/won't do to ourselves.

[ 19-07-2001: Message edited by: MC Ice Honkey ]


Good effing point.

Not that any of yowse really have, but I get quite annoyed when meat-eaters try to use nature to justify their moral imperative. It's cack : with current technology and agricultural practices, we passed the point of needing to eat meat for the human race to survive *years ago*

You eat it cos' you like it. That is all. And there's nothing wrong with that (unless you're a cow)

I'm vegan (non-militant btw) and I couldn't go back to eating meat if I tried; the texture, smell disgusts me.

The best thing about being vegan is that you're pretty much forced not to eat fast-food cos' there ain't any available...

[ 19-07-2001: Message edited by: Dee Vapr ]
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
13:55 / 19.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Dee Vapr:

Not that any of yowse really have, but I get quite annoyed when meat-eaters try to use nature to justify their moral imperative. It's cack : with current technology and agricultural practices, we passed the point of needing to eat meat for the human race to survive *years ago*
[ 19-07-2001: Message edited by: Dee Vapr ]


For me it's all about taking responsibility for what you eat so yeah, I agree.

I do think that it's possible for individual metabolisms to 'need' different foods to some degree. I'm not disagreeing with you as much as adding a footnote. I was a vegetarian for awhile and I was a raw foodist for almost a full year but I just didn't feel as healthy, or have as much energy (despite the raw foodist propaganda to the contrary). And yes, I was doing everything 'right' with the nutrition involved. I started eating fish again and felt almost twice as vital.

I currently eat meat (fish, fowl, or mammal) about 2-3 meals a week and that sustains me. (When I eat a burger it's because I want a burger dammit )

This is a more extreme example: I have a friend who has Renauds disease and both her western and Ayurvedic doctors have 'prescribed' meat for her at least once a week so that she doesn't loose feeling in her fingers.

My point being that I think blanket statements of any kind ("everybody should eat meat because lions do" or "nobody needs meat because you can get the same nutrition from vegetables and grains") miss some of the nuances of what the individual body actually requires.
 
 
Nematode
21:34 / 12.02.03
Dalai Lama eats it....so there you go
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
05:19 / 13.02.03
For me, the interesting/horrifying thing about Fast Food Nation weren't the revelations about what went into the 'food', but the detailing of some thoroughly fucking scary corporate philosophies. The chapter on the unfortunately-named Kenny springs to mind, as does McAwful's speech to groups of school children when they opened a restaurant in the far east (which, if my memory serves, went something along the lines of "eating our food is good, because then your descendents will be taller, stronger, and whiter").
 
  
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