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Freedom Fries II: Bad, bad, bad joke. I hope.

 
 
deja_vroom
15:55 / 20.03.03
I almost gouged my eyes out with a spoon

(crossposted on the conversation)
 
 
Jack Fear
15:59 / 20.03.03
From the Self-Help page:

Now we all know that it's easy to spot some French products and either get rid of them or avoid them. Wine is an obvious example. The French really slipped up on this one and put the name of the country right on the label and made it easy for us. They're not always as clever as they think they are, but they can be a bit crafty. The wine may not say "Bottled in France." It may say "Produit de France," which appear to mean about the same thing. Either way, if it says "France" anywhere on it, don't be fooled.

Yeah, pretty sure it's a piss-take.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
16:00 / 20.03.03
Yeah, "we believe Lady Liberty no longer has any place in this country." looks ironic to me. Now, what about this guy?
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
16:03 / 20.03.03
It's howlingly funny.
 
 
deja_vroom
16:03 / 20.03.03
I didnt read all the page, the peristaltic fits made it kinda difficult...
 
 
Jack Fear
16:04 / 20.03.03
Well, he's just a idjit.

But back to Lady Liberty--why, there's all kinds of way to co-opt that symbol...

 
 
8===>Q: alyn
16:04 / 20.03.03
This site is really fuckin' funny.
 
 
deja_vroom
16:34 / 20.03.03
Listen, the french fries are really named freedom fries now? That *realy* happened?
 
 
Ray Fawkes
16:43 / 20.03.03
You know, for a bunch of people who seem to pride themselves on looking beyond the surface, you sure do seem to be having a great time jumping on a so-called "news" item and the people who are actively blowing it out of proportion. Could it be because it feeds your own prejudices?

I've yet to find an article that refers to any place except for the Congress house cafeterias and a diner in Calgary, Canada that has actually made the "freedom fries" name change.

Not that that matters, right? As long as the people we're making fun of are American.
 
 
deja_vroom
17:01 / 20.03.03
Fawkes, I just wanted to know if the "freedom fries episode" really happened, and to which extent it did happen. JUST. THAT.
Read my previous post and you'll see that. I wasn't making judgements or anything. Thanks for answering my question, tho.

And get fucking used to the backlash. It's not your fault, but, hey, as any Iraqian knows by now, life isn't fair, is it??
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:18 / 20.03.03
Now, now, Ray. We established elsewhere that Americans were *nice*. There was a thread on it and everything.

Personally, I'd be a little less affected by it if one of the two examples wasn't the Congress Cafeteria. I'm sort of hoping that it's a beautiful piss-take on the part of highly ironic cafeteria employees.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:23 / 20.03.03
'fraid not, Haus: but that's not where it started. For what it's worth, the meme actually began in Beaufort, North Carolina (shouldn't that be "Goodstrong"?), with a local chain called Cubbie's. The North Carolina Republican congressman got wind of it and thought it was great idea, and so sponsored the change.

The dude that Ray mentioned in Calgary changed the name back to FrenchFries, BTW.

But there is a very real and rising tide of anti-French sentiment on the American street: I'm seeing it on the letters pages of my newspapers, I'm hearing it on the radio call-in shows, it's coming from the pundits and the comedians and Joe Bloggs drinking two-for-one Bud drafts down at Doyle's. It's crass, it's stupid, and it's ugly: but the reason the web page above is funny is because it's two steps away from being plausible.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:53 / 26.03.03
Showing that the US holds no monopoly on stupidity:

French vandals have attacked the replica of the Liberty statue that resides in Bordeaux.
 
 
grant
18:29 / 26.03.03
Yeah, it's getting a little out of hand.

NewsMax's nationwide campaign to "Boycott France" hit a major milestone today when the New York Times published a NewsMax advertisement in its print editions.
The Boycott France ad called for a complete boycott of French goods and services, and offered a list of French companies and products on the boycott list. Already NewsMax has received a tremendously positive response to the ad. The New York Times is one of the most influential newspapers in the world--and has several million readers each day.

You can see the ad by Clicking Here. With the help of our readers, NewsMax has placed ads in the Washington Times and New York Times, as well as having sent more than 10 million e-mails urging a French boycott and providing the boycott list.


In Idaho, they're actually getting worried. In a non-ironic way.

Idaho potato farmers are suggesting the industry change the name of one of America's favorite fast foods from french fries to American fries.

"We had heard talk that people were actually going to boycott french fries," said Keith Esplin, executive director of the Potato Growers of Idaho, a trade association. "We wanted to make it clear that french fries aren't from France."


and

He was in Denver last week for a potato industry meeting.

"The British Potato Council did a presentation and in their presentation they changed they struck 'french fries' and substituted 'freedom fries,' so it's getting a lot of publicity, which is good," McCullough said.


We're not talking about a few lone goofballs. It's a bona fide cultural movement. How *significant* a cultural movement remains to be seen.

``Iraq first, then France,'' read an e-mail sent last week to the French Embassy in Washington, D.C.

A California chain of three dry cleaning stores called French Cleaners was targeted by vandals on Wednesday. One shop was gutted by fire.

...A World War II veteran who was decorated by the French government for his D-Day bravery returned his medal Friday to protest what he called the country's cowardice for opposing the war in Iraq.

George Wilson, 80, placed the Jubilee of Liberty medal at the gate of the French Embassy.

``This morning was rather sad,'' said embassy spokeswoman Agnes Vondermuhll.

...In West Los Angeles on Friday, five people waved American flags in front of the French Consulate. They held signs saying ``What is France hiding?'' and shouted at passing cars: ``Boycott France'' and ``Support our troops.''

Executives with Sofitel hotels, an upscale chain owned by Accor Hotels of France, have ordered French flags to be taken down at most of its U.S. locations, calling it a precautionary measure.

Last week, the chairman of the U.S. House Administration Committee, Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, ordered that House restaurants change their menus to read ``freedom fries'' instead of French fries. French toast would also become freedom toast.

In West Palm Beach, Fla., last month a bar owner dumped his entire stock of French wine and champagne into the street, vowing to serve vintages only from nations that support U.S. policy.


As a local, I can tell you that last item got a *lot* of coverage around here. And has apparently been good for the bar's business.
 
 
Baz Auckland
18:39 / 26.03.03
I was reading a similar article the other day about how Germans are trying to boycott American goods, as they see it as the only way to get America's attention. A spokesperson from McDonald's said it was pointless since they're a 'global brand' not an American company...

FOund the article

On the bright side, Accor should be boycotted, since they run those refugee detention centres in France, don't they?
 
 
Hieronymus
20:03 / 26.03.03
And of course the anti-France idiocy isn't just wholly American. To the Brit Lithers this is likely not a surprise.

It's good to know keg-party frat boys have a future in 'journalism'. Especially in today's tough job market.
 
 
bjacques
23:34 / 26.03.03
Global brand my ass. Like a lot of multinationals, they'd like to be weightless and frictionless, disregarding national laws (but not copyright enforcement), but the shit sticks to them when their country of origin does something naughty.

Any chance Hewitt will take an Iraqi bullet? Nothing becomes a showboating reporter like a hero's death.

Boycott Halliburton, Dick Cheney's old company; they built Camp X-Ray and will get the fattest Iraq reconstruction contracts.
 
 
glassonion
07:18 / 27.03.03
chips you twats - they were always just called chips and the french and the shermans had it all wrong. CHIPS!
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
19:21 / 27.03.03
U.S. government: "Hate France!"
U.S. public: "Okay!"

It will be so nice for all of the cute little animals when all of the stupid humans finally wipe themselves off the planet as a result of their stupid, stupid stupidity. I hate us.
 
 
Slim
02:51 / 28.03.03
The government didn't have to tell the public to hate France. I've said it before and I'll say it again- the American public already had a strong dislike for the French. It was a small step towards hatred.
 
 
Ofermod
03:28 / 28.03.03
Actually, the guy who had was getting a petition signed trying to get the French Quarter renamed the Freedom Quarter is not being serious. He's actually a friend of a guy I work with and also runs fqu-usa.com He was just doing a send up of the anti-french stupidity.
 
 
Loomis
12:30 / 28.03.03
What's your favourite ice cream flavour?

"I Hate French Vanilla" or "Iraqi Road"?

Star Spangled Ice Cream
 
 
Jack Fear
12:49 / 28.03.03
Star-Spangled Ice Cream.

(You forgot the closing quote mark, Loomis.)
 
 
lolita nation
22:53 / 28.03.03
j'en ai marre de ce pays, parfois.
 
  
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