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Magickal Graffiti

MonkeyWrench

20:41 / 15.03.03

Recently I've been seeing a circle consisting of a snake eating it's own tail spray painted on the side of some walls while driving around town. Can anyone let me in on the magickal significance of said symbol? Thanks for the enlightenment.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

21:19 / 15.03.03

That's as about a tricky a question as "What it the signifigence of a guy hanging on a cross?" You'll find about as many answers too. However a good place to look is:

http://abacus.best.vwh.net/oro/ouroboros.html

The design you mention is called the Ouroboros, by the way.

Where geographicly, did you see it? I knew a few places in the US where it might mean something 'special'.

ciarconn

22:40 / 15.03.03

It was also used in the tv series Millenium as the symbol of a millenarist sect.

little big bang

00:44 / 16.03.03

where in the US would it mean something 'special'? and, if it can be said, why?

MonkeyWrench

02:25 / 16.03.03

I live in Austin, Texas.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

04:40 / 16.03.03

If instead of ouroborus we call it Iomungandr it becomes sacred to the odinists.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

18:12 / 17.03.03

"Where in the US would it mean something 'special'? and, if it can be said, why?"

Well, for example: In Cincinnati, there's a certian pseudo-magical group that uses it (and the roman numeral V) for certian things and in recent years it seems that it's taken on a certian "meaning" there in my old home town.

I seem to recall a friend telling me that another pseudo-magickal group in Boston uses it too.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

08:23 / 18.03.03

This is interesting, do you know what the people in boston or Cincinnati use the symbol for? Is the meaning that it has taken on in your old home town differ from how the pseudo-magickal group uses it? Is it looked on as menacing by the population while the pseudo-magickal group sees it as a protection sign, for example?

Secularius

11:21 / 18.03.03

Nietzsch E.,
What is an Odinist? What is lomungadr? It sounds like old Norse/Icelandic. Are you sure you're not talking about the religion Ásatrú and the snake Miðgarðsormur?

ONLY NICE THINGS

11:31 / 18.03.03

Midgardsomur, I think, is another treatment of the same principle. Jormungand (or Jormungander, or Jormungandr, or the same with an I) is a name for the world serpent, who holds his tail in his mouth and keeps the ocean around Midgard contained. His tail leaves his mouth at Ragnarok.

Annoyingly, this thread has already happened once, where the image was first identified incorrectly as Nithog... can anyone find it?

Got it. Don't say I never do anything nice for you

Nietzsch E. Coyote

20:54 / 18.03.03

Miðgarðsormur is the title, midgart serpent, while Iörmungandr is the snake's name. Odinist is used as another name for Ásatrúist. Unfortunatly is is sometimes used to mean racist groups that venerate Odin because he was "german" while jesus was a "jew". Perhaps I should have used Ásatrúist.

Nithog? never heard of that one.

*whack* sound of palm hitting forhead.

Right. Nithog, the Serpent at the bottom of the Yggdrasil.

Thanks Haus.

Bill Posters

22:31 / 19.03.03

FYI, here's some more stuff about the same symbol, from a London-oriented website.

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