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Idlewild

 
 
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17:21 / 15.03.03
I was just watching the muchmusic and have discovered Idlewild. Good gravy are they good.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:51 / 15.03.03
What have you heard? I've got to agree with Riz that the latest album strays too much into the current trend for 'anthemic' guitar pop and feels a whole lot less vital than previous releases as a result. That said, it's still got a couple of absolutely cracking tunes on it.
 
 
Brigade du jour
20:56 / 15.03.03
Idlewild? Blimey, if you ever heard the Clash or something you'd probably explode!
 
 
rizla mission
12:48 / 16.03.03
Well, if they'd dropped into the world as they've been in the last year, I'd probably despise them.

But as it is, I was (still am kinda) a really, really big fan of them circa 'Captain' and 'Hope is Important', and I'm taking every oppurtunity to remind people that however boring they may be now, they used to be shambolic punk mentalists of the highest order.

It seems almost insane to me that the band who did 'self-healer' and 'you don't have the heart', and who used to do frantically mad live performances, breaking away from their songs half way through in favour of improvised noise and yelling and destruction ("a flight of stairs falling down a flight of stairs", remember) .. are supporting bloody Coldplay..

Although I still like the bare bones of a lot of the songs on the last album (it may be a cliche to call their lyrics 'thoughtful and oblique', but it doesn't stop it being true), I just can't stand the boring-as-fuck arrangement and the 'generic indie band' image that they've developed..

Press these days always seems to compare them to REM and the Smiths*, whereas I think at their best they had more in common with Husker Du or Rites of Spring or Swell Maps..

(*which isn't a bad thing in it's own right of course, as both groups are unquestionably fairly good, but bands that recieve those comparisons are inevitably dreadful)
 
 
The Strobe
16:32 / 16.03.03
I really really liked early Idlewild. They were fun. Now they are earnest, and good, but it's not the same, because I don't want to jump around any more. You know?
 
 
The Falcon
19:21 / 16.03.03
Roddy Woomble was two years above me at High School. He was really nice.

They've also taken my friends, Laeto, on tour with them, and had them as support at the Lemon Tree recently.

Idlewild are okayyy. Very REM these days.
 
 
_pin
19:40 / 16.03.03
The REM was always there. But it was like they were htting it violently over the head repeatidly because let's face it, no one wants to be REM.

But because I ca, let me tak of happier times. Hope Is Important happier times.

It's hard to say what it is about the album, but it could well be about the fact thatg they keep sing Times New Roman like it didn't go out of fashion, and never capitalise their titles right (they're proper nouns, dears... ), making them all seems like lines of someone elses poetry. That's probablly a very stupid and vacuous way to approach music but, let's face it... there are a million bands out there who make lovely rackety noise. This one's noise is very prettily dressed up.

There's something about the desolate pictures, and the lovely title, and the general nway they present themselves, that reeks of an admirable spirit and attitude and love of making lovely noise and great guitar songs.

I still remeber watching a documntary when they were a three piece going to perform on a tiny little Scottish island. They were mad, and Roddy was still wearing tees (I got really freaked out the first time I saw him in a shirt, actually. It was bright red, too) and they all seemed so happy that people had come.

I've not heard The Remote Part yet, but atleast I like the pictures on the front, and the handwriting, and the slogan "Support your local poet." capitlised and punctuated like a sensible sentence for sensible people. If I pretend that I've never heard the songs, it still feels like the second best thing I seem to think was part of my teenhood but never was (because I only just got into them).
 
 
The Falcon
21:02 / 16.03.03
I find their version of 'Scottishness', as I do with most Scottish bands (especially-fucking-Travis) a little too pandering and twee.

'In your croft!' is a stupid lyric, for example.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:00 / 17.03.03
Never heard them.

Okay, past shit accepted - I trust you guys.

But 'anthemic guitar rock'? Brrrrr......Mummy, I'm cold.....
 
 
suds
15:56 / 17.03.03
i agree with paleface: i loved idlewild in about 1998 or so when they were shouting out recipes to humus over loud guitars, but now they're all wah wah wah & travis like. i loved "film for the future" & also "when i argue i see shapes". i met idlewild one time & their bass player was a total dick. i think he's left the band now.
 
 
rizla mission
14:27 / 18.03.03
Indie kids with far too much time on their hands have suggested that the band's tiresome new direction is down to the declining influence & departure of said bass player, regarded by all as a drunken mad bastard.
 
 
The Falcon
16:57 / 18.03.03
Yeah, he was/is.

I don't like 'Captain' very much. First two albums are okay. I own nothing by the 'wild.
 
 
suds
18:26 / 29.03.03
that explains a lot.
dude had all these girls around him. & two of them had idlewild tattoos! it was a bit much.
 
 
straylight
08:41 / 30.03.03
Still fucking brilliant live, as far as I'm concerned. I guess I shouldn't say "still" since tonight was my first Idlewild show but I wanted to smack the idiot crowd, especially the girl who stood right in front of Roddy shaking her fist like she was at some stoopit rawk extravaganza.

But they were very, very good and while I can understand the crankiness about them going from ONE HALF TABLESPOON OIL! (I realize this is probably not accurate but it's very late) to the new album, while it may not be all DIY and messy, it's evolution, and it's literate in a way that manages to be smart but unpretentious. I'm sure if they get big'n famous everyone will find a reason to hate them, but I think they're fanfuckingtastic.
 
 
rizla mission
09:57 / 30.03.03
I wanted to smack the idiot crowd, especially the girl who stood right in front of Roddy shaking her fist like she was at some stoopit rawk extravaganza.

If the band were still any good, she would have been.

bah.
 
 
rizla mission
10:00 / 30.03.03
Would have been at a rawk extravaganza, that is.

Just realised how above post could be shockingly misinterpreted. yikes!
 
 
Optimistic
17:11 / 30.03.03
This always happens when bands change direction. Everyone "loved the first records".

I have to say that I think the new stuff is pretty good, his voice is much, much better for one thing. So are some of the songs, in fact.

Almost all of them.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:19 / 30.03.03
This always happens when bands change direction.

No, it doesn't. What frequently happens, and has happened in this case, is that bands - for whatever reason - make a conscious, concerted effort to move their sound on, mistakenly believing that in order to mature their music they need to chuck orchestral arrangements behind it or make the songs longer. This rarely works in their favour, instead only serving to water that band's individual style down until they becomes unrecognisable from anyone else.

The argument that fans complaining about a change in direction is snobbish and elitist is a simple defence that precludes any need to justify that change in direction on 'artistic' grounds or answer the critics' accusations.
 
 
straylight
01:32 / 31.03.03
Rizla, I see your point, but the fist-shaking girl was still totally annoying, with her hair-tossing look-at-me! shit. I suppose she could have been worse and been one of the chumps standing cross-armed on the other side of the stage, too cool to acknowledge how incredibly good the show was.
 
  
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