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Psilocybin

 
 
De Selby
10:05 / 13.03.03
So I've managed to locate a very reliable source of little mushroom friends, Psilocybe cubensis, and am wondering if anyone has any experience incorporating mushrooms into any magickal works?

If not mushrooms, what about any other psychedelics? I'm thinking the King Mob/John Lennon bit in issue 1 of the invisibles kinda deal. In fact, if I could end up in a multi-coloured psychedelic universe communicating with beings of another consciousness.... I would be very happy

I'm a bit afraid though, because psychedelics tend to be a bit real for me, as does magickal workings. So I'm thinking the combination of both will send me loopy. Has anyone got any cautions or helpful pointers?

Actually any information at all would be good.
 
 
Vadrice
13:56 / 13.03.03
I'm a bit afraid though, because psychedelics tend to be a bit real for me, as does magickal workings. So I'm thinking the combination of both will send me loopy. Has anyone got any cautions or helpful pointers?

~shrug~ you could always just cheat and do it the trancer way. a variation on the candy flip.

as in, take it with E.
I'm thinking the King Mob/John Lennon bit in issue 1 of the invisibles kinda deal. In fact, if I could end up in a multi-coloured psychedelic universe communicating with beings of another consciousness.... I would be very happy

if you play music, play some beatles while you do it. Or just some Lennon. Or just read that section of the Invisibles over and over.

Be creative beforehand in your preparations. And let your plans fall apart (cause they will) when the experience takes you.
 
 
Rev. Wright
16:51 / 13.03.03
Ignore the application of E with your investigations into the magickal use of mushrooms. E is a comfort drug, generating a controlled euphoric bliss which will smother any spiritual illumination. It is also very difficult to make sure that an E is what it says on the box, MDMA and variations of. Unscrupulous manufacture means that it can contain all kinds of other substances, many of which are toxic.

I have been using mushroom as part of my practice for several years now and have found them a source of much insight and increased awareness. I have not used them in specifics rituals, though the use of them has been ritualistic, with an overt intent. I suggest that you take some time to read around the subject and offer these links:

The Hemporer

The vaults of Erowid

Deoxy

Leary & RAW

Keep us posted
 
 
LVX23
16:55 / 13.03.03
Personally, I've found that the onset of mushrooms can be fairly focused and grounded, but moving into the peak will pretty much obliterate any attempt to guide the experience - it's dose-dependent, of course, but eventually you just have to let go and let it take you. I feel the best time to move into a magickal space is after the peak when things are starting to become familiar again but everything is still very rich with meaning and metaphor.

Think of it as a shamanistic vision quest, capped off by ritual after the peak.

The great thing about mushrooms is the profound depth of connection with the natural - plants, trees, animals, etc. all reveal themselves to be highly sentient. Ultimately, this connection with nature can manifest itself in the apprehension of the Logos (see anything by Terence McKenna, such as this).

And if you really want to ground it out and add a much deeper, ancient feeling to the experience, eat a couple of gelcapfuls of Syrian Rue seeds, ground, about a half hour before eating the mushies. WARNING: Syrian Rue is an MAO inhibitor and can have dangerous hypertensive interactions with foods/drinks containing tyramine. Stay away from wine & cheese. In fact, for such a working it would be wise to fast altogether and stick to juices for the day. And definitely DON'T mix with mdma.

Ultimately, the ally you choose depends upon your personal preference. Like any servitor or deity, it's best to cultivate a proper relationship before pushing too far into the depths. As such, formulate your ritual of ingestion as iff it were, well, a ritual. Treat the compound as a sacrament, cleanse your space and purify yourself, make offerings to the deity, etc... All these actions will serve to focus the experience and bring you into greater harmony with the ally.

Cheers!
 
 
thedude
21:19 / 13.03.03
You should also read a book that's just been published by Daniel Pinchbeck, called "Breaking Open the Head". It's about his transformation from cynical, wisecracking New York-type media whore, to full-on visionary shaman. Might not be that much in there that's new to you, but it should be of interest!
 
 
De Selby
13:03 / 15.03.03


Vadrice said:

~shrug~ you could always just cheat and do it the trancer way. a variation on the candy flip.

as in, take it with E.


Yeah I've done that a few times, but only with acid. I can't see it being that useful for anything contructive though, cos I tend to have more of a detached observer perspective when I'm pilling, and also that whole "in love with everything" feeling gets in the way of anything serious. Candyflipping is lots of fun though

if you play music, play some beatles while you do it. Or just some Lennon. Or just read that section of the Invisibles over and over.

Be creative beforehand in your preparations. And let your plans fall apart (cause they will) when the experience takes you.


I didn't mean that exact ritual, but music is a good idea. I might plan out a soundtrack before hand....

a few people suggested links:

Still going through them... all my uni reading makes my spare time reading drop to approximate zero unfortunately.

chris23 said:
Ultimately, the ally you choose depends upon your personal preference. Like any servitor or deity, it's best to cultivate a proper relationship before pushing too far into the depths. As such, formulate your ritual of ingestion as iff it were, well, a ritual. Treat the compound as a sacrament, cleanse your space and purify yourself, make offerings to the deity, etc... All these actions will serve to focus the experience and bring you into greater harmony with the ally.


So maybe before attempting anything serious, I should just get to know my shrooms? I like that idea. Small controlled doses, in a comfortable setting, exploring the possibilities and limitations.

trumanbuckley said: You should also read a book that's just been published by Daniel Pinchbeck, called "Breaking Open the Head"

I'll see if my library has it on monday.

These are all excellent suggestions! Cheers peoples!
 
 
Rev. Wright
22:27 / 16.03.03
I'm currently testing out some 'organic' mushroom tablets that have found their way in to circulation in the last few months. So far betweenone and a half to two produces the effect of liberty caps for approximately 3-4 hours.
I will be planning to create a ritual for their use when I have some more time to prepare. I'll keep you posted
 
  
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