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We have two moons.

 
 
grant
15:18 / 10.03.03
New 'moon' found around Earth.

An amateur astronomer may have found another moon of the Earth. Experts say it may have only just arrived.
Much uncertainty surrounds the mysterious object, designated J002E3. It could be a passing chunk of rock captured by the Earth's gravity, or it could be a discarded rocket casing coming back to our region of space.

It was discovered by Bill Yeung, from his observatory in Arizona, US, and reported as a passing Near-Earth Object.

It was soon realised, however, that far from passing us, it was in fact in a 50-day orbit around the Earth.



More at the link....
 
 
LVX23
16:53 / 10.03.03
Barbelith?????
 
 
cusm
18:11 / 10.03.03
That is too cool
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
19:04 / 10.03.03
I just read the link... we have 3 moons! cool.
 
 
—| x |—
21:01 / 10.03.03
[thread rot]

"Tell me, do you think the earth has a single moon? Or is it just that no one has yet observed the second?"

See Lurid, SEE!



with love,

m0

[/thread rot]
 
 
sleazenation
21:18 / 10.03.03
I heard this report (not just on the bbc website but on much of the BBC and UK news media) when it first came out - but the story kind of died shortly thereafter.
 
 
Brigade du jour
21:55 / 10.03.03
That's fantastic! I don't care if it is just space debris - after all one could argue that the moon and indeed the earth are space debris ... if you define it, like, really really broadly. Anyway ...

I always used to love watching Newsround as a child in case they had something about extra planets, moons, comets all that kind of stuff. And I think a comet on a collision course for the earth would be brilliant, in a really sick way - I mean if we were all going to die, there would be a kind of closure in that. We wouldn't be leaving anything behind, at least not anything in our scope of experience. Hmm, maybe that's another thread, sorry for going off on one everybody.

Anyway yeah, no I don't know anything more recent, but I think I'll just enjoy speculating until some news about it turns up.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:44 / 11.03.03
J002E3? Take out the letters, what've you got? Whoah!
 
 
Seth
04:39 / 11.03.03
Take out the numbers and you have the first two letters of "Jesus."

Fuck me.
 
 
Quantum
09:19 / 11.03.03
Go Barbelith Go! Jesus 23? Hidden Moon? Shouldn't this be on the Magick forum!
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:19 / 11.03.03
We should bombard this Bill Yeung guy with e-mails and send him all the trades of the Invisibles and ask him to name J002E3, BARBELiTH.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:45 / 11.03.03
man! Can't believe this report is so old -- anyone find anything more updated on this?

Please note the name of the 'other' psuedo-moon mentioned in the article: Cruithne. Sounds magickal. Anyone google this name?

Eerie that the report was from Sept. 11 as well.
 
 
gridley
19:46 / 11.03.03
Is it noteworthy that our traditional moon orbits the earth 13 times per year, whereas this new moon orbits the earth 7 times per year? I know 7 is supposed to be lucky and 13 unlucky, but are there are greater magical meanings?
 
 
FinderWolf
19:53 / 11.03.03
aAAAH, check this out. NOT A MOON, but a piece of one of the Apollo craft:

from: http://ali.opi.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/UANews.woa/2/wa/SRStoryDetails?ArticleID=6102

UA Astronomers Discover That Earth's Second Moon Wears Apollo Paint

Tuesday, 17 September 2002
Lori Stiles

Astronomers have the first direct evidence that a newly discovered object orbiting Earth is debris from one of the Apollo moon launches over 30 years ago.

Carl Hergenrother and Robert Whiteley, astronomers at the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory at the University of Arizona, used the Steward Observatory 61-inch telescope near Mount Bigelow in the Santa Catalina Mountains north of Tucson for observations of J002E3.

The mysterious object named J002E3 was discovered in orbit around Earth on Sept. 3 by amateur astronomer Bill Yeung, viewing from a site in southern California. The discovery made news headlines as it could be the only satellite, other than the moon, naturally captured by Earth to enter Earth orbit.

After studying the object's past motion, Paul Chodas of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., concluded that the object had been orbiting the sun until April of this year, when it was captured by Earth. Researchers have believed that J002E3's small size and unusual orbit suggest the object is no asteroid or other natural object, but a piece of man-made "space junk," possibly a piece of one of the Saturn V rockets that launched American astronauts to the moon during the Apollo program. The JPL news release is on the web at http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov

Hergenrother and Whiteley measured reflected light from the object Sept. 12 and 13. The photometric measurements showed that the object spins once every 63.5 seconds or once every 127 seconds – more observations are needed to pin down the exact time, Hergenrother said. "Such a rapid rate of rotation is not unheard of either for an asteroid or a piece of man-made space junk, but is very consistent with each," he added.

The UA astronomers made their definitive observations with various filters to sample the colors, or spectra, that J002E3 reflects.

"Rather than looking like a known asteroid, the colors were consistent with the spectral properties of an object covered with white Titanium oxide (TiO) paint," Hergenrother said. "The Apollo Saturn S-IVB upper stages were painted with TiO paint," he noted.

Hergenrother and Whiteley checked their observations with some professional colleagues, " a kind of informal 'peer review' just in case we were way off on things," Hergenrother said.

Those key colleagues include Richard Binzel and Andy Rivken of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Binzel and Rivken took infrared spectra on the unique object, and those spectra "confirm that J002E3 is a dead ringer for white TiO paint," Hergenrother added.

The object is most likely a S-IVB from either Apollo 8, 10, 11, or 12, with Apollo 12 being most likely, the UA researchers conclude.

"As Bill Yeung said, this is the first recorded observation of any object being captured into a geocentric orbit," Hergenrother said.

"There is also a fairly good chance that J002E3 might crash into the moon at some point. Scientifically, that isn't too important, but it is interesting, " he said.

and also:

Paint Confirms Earth's New Satellite Not an Asteroid
By SPACE.com Staff
posted: 07:00 am ET
18 September 2002

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/rocket_paint_020918.html

finally, Bill Yueng's webpage:

http://www.geocities.com/microplanet333/
 
 
arcboi
20:32 / 11.03.03
"That's no moon, it's a space station. Or a bit of a rocket. Or something"
 
 
bjacques
08:41 / 12.03.03
Talk about a parabolic arc of expectations and disappointment...a regular gravity's rainbow.
 
 
Jack Rock-a-Pops
12:35 / 12.03.03
Probably a dumb question, but what makes a satellite a moon then? Perhaps the hint that it was naturally captured by the Earth's gravity?

In which case, we still have two moons.
 
 
Baz Auckland
14:49 / 12.03.03
It could be the start of a new human-made one? It would be a handy skill you know, learning to make a new moon or planet or something..
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:40 / 13.03.03
V-Ger?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:43 / 13.03.03
Oh, I just googled "Cruithne", and got a near-earth asteroid FAQ thingy which told me this:

The name "Cruithne" was given to it by its discoverers (see below), and refers the first Celtic racio-tribal group to come to the British Isles, appearing between about 800 and 500 B.C., and coming from the European continent. They were also known as the Picts. The correct pronunciation for 'Cruithne' is 'croo-een-ya'. The emphasis should be on the -een-".
 
 
Saveloy
10:08 / 13.03.03
I reckon the Iron Chicken knows more about this than she's letting on.....

(btw, does anyone else keep mis-reading the title as "We have two morons"?)
 
  
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