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More Filth AND Morrison

 
 
Sebastian
12:16 / 07.03.03
Personally, I believe that if you can feel sympathy for a ridiculous superhero and not for an ordinary, lonely man tending a sick animal then there's something desperately wrong with your emotions and your priorities.

Have not read it yet, but I am going to EAT IT at lunch.

I just hope the trade comes timely once this is over.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:49 / 07.03.03
Some grand news...

[I]n issue #9 ... everything is explained but in a heightened, sickening rush of barely-understandable images and words - most of the revelations in issue #9 are delivered in a thick Glaswegian dialect because I wanted them to seem deliberately febrile, bizarre and disconnected...

...for those who hate the phonetic Scotticisms.

Heh.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:52 / 07.03.03
The trade isn't coming out til 2004, according to that 99 cent Vertigo preview booklet.

You know, I keep buying the Filth but I haven't read any of them since #5 came out. I just never am in the mood for it. I figure I'll eventually read them all in one go, but who knows.
 
 
Sebastian
13:02 / 07.03.03
The trade isn't coming out til 2004

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHRRRRRGG..., waitaminute, a friend of mine is getting the issues here fortunately.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:42 / 07.03.03
Big re-read imminent.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
19:22 / 07.03.03
I am choosing to hope that the second half of the series is better than the first and, based on what Grant let slip in this article, I'm thinking this might actually be true.
 
 
--
19:29 / 07.03.03
quote by GM:
The message of The Filth is very clear and manifold - I'd like readers to realize that even the most mundane existence - even the shabbiest, shittiest life you can live - can be redeemed into glory by the power of imagination.

This could be one of the most inspirational quotes I've ever heard GM utter.

Looking foward to the next 5 issues, if memory serves #9 should be out on Wednesday.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:33 / 07.03.03
...can be redeemed into glory by the power of imagination

...or can be escaped by the power of going bugfuck crazy.

Two sides, one coin. Which I expect is the point.
 
 
--
22:41 / 07.03.03
h'mm, were it not for imagination I would have gone "bugfuck crazy" sometime ago.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
04:14 / 08.03.03
What if you are bugfuck crazy, and your life is still shitty. But you have such an imagination you don't see it?
 
 
Sunny
05:42 / 08.03.03
it wouldn't matter to you, especially if you're not cognizant of it.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
06:33 / 08.03.03
Yeah, but it would matter, because it could happen. So shouldn't everyone, no matter how good they think they have it, be slightly paranoid that they don't really know?
 
 
penitentvandal
17:19 / 08.03.03
This seems like the place to tell you that, during my teenage years, I was haunted by the terrible thought that all the joyous experiences I thought were taking place in the 'real' world were in fact nothing more than a delusion to stop me realising that I was in fact being held prisoner by a gigantic, hairy child molester...
 
 
Sunny
20:47 / 08.03.03
okay, jack.
 
 
Sunny
20:48 / 08.03.03
I hope I'm not autistic like I thought I could of been when I was ten or whatever years old.
 
 
The Falcon
01:43 / 09.03.03
I did my reread two days ago. Will there be questions?

I'm enjoying this just now and this: To help cure these emotional deficiencies, The Filth can be seen a healing inoculation of grime. I'm deliberately injecting the worst aspects of life it into my readers heads in small, humorous doses of metaphor and symbol, in an effort to help them survive the torrents of nastiness, horror and dirt we're all exposed to every day - especially in white Western cultures, whose entertainment industries peddle a mind-numbing perverted concoction of fantasy violence and degrading sexuality while living large at the expense of the poor in other countries.

Gave me a sense of righteous neo-Socialist vigour. And explained the broad point quite nicely.

The Glaswegian bit's going to be a great laugh, I think. 1-0 the Scottish reader! Sales'll plummet, probably.
 
 
glassonion
13:18 / 09.03.03
for anyone worried about the scottish dialect: before embarking on the next issue of the filth simply drink about eight cans of the cheapest beer you can find. this will put you inside an exact replica of a scotsman's mind, and the dialogue will clarify miraculously, or 'as if by magickqxs'. be quiet, we still own you .

anyway, nothing i hadn't worked out already but quite a charming little interview. the crack's not another dimension, it's just very small which is how you age so quick there. the moore/morrison diggery pokery seems to have taken a new, funnier twist in recent months. not long ago moore quietly let it slip that he'd got his ipsissimus stripes, and now g-tothe-m is going 'yeah right me too'. perhaps in the end it'll just come down to a tustle between the invisibles and promethea. tho' I expect promethea to be the major handbook on qabballa and tarot in this century, the invisibles is the one that really teaches you how to undo things without recourse to ancient symbols that you might not like the look of.
 
 
The Falcon
15:09 / 09.03.03
All british comic writers are, as we know by now, the same man anyway.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
17:09 / 09.03.03
another excellent post from the glassonion - the most opaque 'lith-lifer' on dis block. seen!

yknow, having gone through my 'hate gm' phase, I'm beginning to think hating Alan fuckin Moore might be more fun.

He just a fuckin Douglas Adams clone fer flux sake.

If you don't agree with that, then you'll have to agree with these:

Promethea? like shitey old Religous Ed on a Friday afternoon.
From 'Ell? From Arsehole more like.
Watchmen? What If superheroes were real? - Yeah right.
Swamp Thing? Cumon! give us a fuckin break!
Halo Jones? That Gibson draws good arse.
Top Ten? Showboatin' cunt.
V for Vendetta? Why didn't you fuck off and leave Britain like you promised, Alan?
Skizz? A masterpiece. His only decent work.

And you know what?

He's ugly as fuck too.

God I hate that guy.
 
 
Eskay Uno
21:02 / 09.03.03
quote by GM:
The message of The Filth is very clear and manifold - I'd like readers to realize that even the most mundane existence - even the shabbiest, shittiest life you can live - can be redeemed into glory by the power of imagination.


If anyone likes this idea but believes Grant's presentation of it in The Filth is somewhat lacking (personally, I love it) or if you simply want to see another take on it, I strongly reccommend the latest story arc of David Lapham's STRAY BULLETS. Also, any of his Amy Racecar one-shots.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:16 / 10.03.03
How on Earth are the shitty lives in 'Stray Bullets' (which, yesindeedy, is excellent) "redeemed by the powert of imagination"? Unless of course yr referring to the writer's.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:39 / 10.03.03
a trap? yes.

okay, not read all o' strabe but:

amy racecar has constructed an ultrrreality to escape the grim truth of her abduction, rape and torture.

which on one level fits with the above chap's (stone K) assertion about imagination and it's transformative powers.

but she's hiding is all nit? no redemption there stoney one.

wrong thread. don't know enuff bout strabe either.
 
 
Eskay Uno
18:28 / 10.03.03
Retreat into fantasy/imagination can be an adaptive coping mechanism. Used propery, it can renew and empower. I think that's how Grant is treating it in the Filth and that's how Virginia uses it in Stray Bullets. Are Ned and Virginia hiding? Are they avoiding the real world? I guess to an extent, but only to an extent because the real world keeps crashing down on them, and hard. But they don't sink, they swim. They are both survivors and I believe they have their imaginations to thank for that.

Redemption is inherent in the act of creative transformation. If any horrible or dull, silly little thing can be transformed into something glorious, we are automatically delivered from the ghastly or mundane into something spectacular. Even a typical case of explossive diarrhea can become an epic exorcism to banish a Fecal Demon. It's all in how you look at it.

Sure, it's all in our heads, and the "reality" still sucks, but if you can dress it up in a better light you have a better chance at survival, or at least happiness and a few laughs. If you get lost in the fantasy, when it becomes indistinguishable from reality, that's when it can be maladaptive and unhealthy. Will Ned/Greg get lost? Is his imagination hurting him more than it is helping? What do you guys think?
 
 
The Natural Way
19:35 / 10.03.03
Right. I seeeeeeee. Completely forgot about Ginny and Amy!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
21:12 / 10.03.03
Even a typical case of explossive diarrhea can become an epic exorcism to banish a Fecal Demon.

Stone K.: beautiful!
 
  
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