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Papess
07:40 / 23.02.03
I am now recieving some very threatening phonecalls from a complete stranger. They say they know where I live, (and they do!) and I am frightened. Not only have they hinted at incapacitating me socially and financially but also physically.

Due to the nature of my lifestlye, involving law enforcement would only be to my detriment.

So, please...a protection spell and a binding that is fierce, that can be done to protect against strangers and that works on social and financial levels as well as, to protect physically.

You know, I am scared, but I am fucking pissed too.

Thanks all, in advance.
 
 
Warewullf
11:10 / 23.02.03
Odd, I was just thinking about doing a binding for someone earlier...

Anyway, If you want to do this yourself, simply get something to represent the person (eg. a twig) and a piece of rope/twine/wool. Sit in a circle, or a quiet place, and wrap the string around the twig, repeating over and over that you bind this person from doing you harm. Really try to feel this working. Imagine them being tied up and unable to move. Tie it off and, if you like, bury it. Or keep it somewhere safe.(ie where no one will find it and throw it out or unravel it.)
 
 
Bill Posters
11:45 / 23.02.03
May, I'll do all I can.

Um, could you get someone who's good at astral spying to try to gather some intelligence here? (Like, r u sure this is a stranger?)
 
 
arcboi
13:43 / 23.02.03
They're committing a criminal offence so I'd urge you to contact the police or at least your phone company.

Personally, I'd find it odd if a complete and total stanger has just decided to pick on you at random. If they know where you live and can harm you financially then it suggests they know you in some way. Ask yourself if you've pissed anyone off in recent times, either directly or indirectly.

I'd then look into creating a servitor that is capable of dealing with circumstances such as this. Faced with a slightly similar situation, I created a servitor that was designed to reflect any negative intent (rather than take on a war footing) which worked very successfuly.
 
 
Papess
15:05 / 23.02.03
I am sure I do not know them, although they may have used my service before and I do not remember them. They only call me on my business phone which can be found easily.

Seriously, cops are not a good idea. They don't seem to think I have any rights due to their biases against "women like me".


Regardless of individual morals and ethics, I do not deserve to be harrassed or threatened or intimidated by anyone. Not that I am suggesting anyone here feels this way, I am just expressing my outrage at my situation.

I am going to take some precautions in the material such as changing my phone number and ad, but he found out where I live and that is what scares me.

Thank you all so far....Bill, arcboi, Warewulf and you, the wonderful sorcorer who PMed me I have a virtual squeeze for.

Feeling unsafe in your own home is a sickening feeling.
 
 
gravitybitch
17:21 / 23.02.03
Oh, sweetie - I'll send you all the juice I can!!

I understand completely not wanting to get the police involved, but you might be able to complain to the phone company without repercussions. Do you have friends in your community who might have suggestions in line with the local legal atmosphere?

It's probably not worth the expense of caller ID on the new number, since it's so easy to block, but it's worth a thought...

Another mundane option might be to look around and see if there's a private detective who might be sympathetic. I don't know what sorts of things they can accomplish without the vast and official powers of the police, but it might help.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:39 / 23.02.03
Hrrm. Mojo aside, are there any voluntary organizations for Women Like You in your region that could offer you some support?
 
 
arcboi
19:13 / 23.02.03
I might be being a bit thick here but I don't get what "women like me" means. PM me if it's something I need to know

Not sure where you're based Mei, but certainly in the UK BT take a very dim view of people doing this sort of nonsense.

If you want help regarding the servitor then I'm happy to cook something up for you.
 
 
Sebastian
01:37 / 24.02.03
Besides emphasis on servitors and mindfucking the fucker, it is a standard acceptably practice for any citizen that is threatened over phone, mail, or whatever, to notify the police. This might lead the cops to monitor all your phone calls, but, well, the shitty bastard deserves to be tracked and be filed at the police station.

Also, dog that barks... well, hardly ever bites, if it is of any consolation. You know, scaring the hell out of this people is the every day bite and penny of wizardry, simply because they already are at immediate mercy -they wouldn't be threatening people over the phone otherwise, pretty over exposed chaps, if you ask.

I'll see what I can do, always have that couple of bugs at hand.
 
 
ciarconn
01:54 / 24.02.03
Hey, May, sorry to hear this.
I'll try some info gathering though the astral, and send one or two thoughtforms that will love to help you.
But do try to get some material help on your zone.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:11 / 24.02.03
Erm, next time you're on the phone to this freak I'd suggest visualising that you're digging your claw- like fingers in to his stomach and twisting his internal organs round very painfully. Then remove something- it's no good being magically defensive when someone's attacking you, take the upper hand, steal some of his energy.

The binding spell mentioned by Warewullf above is basic earth magic and very associated with wicca, personally I don't find that it works all that well, but each to their own. You might want to pay special attention to where you live and the general feeling of the rooms at the moment, it would be best to up your protections there.

Oh and if you do want a binding spell, with a little voodoo behind it because they're probably most effective, here's one I quite like. The first spell actually, a little morbid but quite interesting- where the personal artefact is concerned I'd suggest recording freak's voice over the phone, pulling the tape out, and using that rather than a physical object because clearly you can't get any hair or photo's. It should work just as well and just think what you can do to the tape!
 
 
Quantum
14:41 / 24.02.03
You have my sympathy, what a horrible guy. Maybe a working of some kind to bring some allies to the situation (apart from us 'lithers) perhaps to ensure you get a sympathetic policeman rather than a heartless fascist. Try and turn the mental tables a little, you have the moral high ground and he is clearly in need of a swift kick in the balls.
Correct me if I'm wrong, one of the worst parts of stalking is the fear and constant worry/paranoia. That's what needs addressing first, deflect some of the panicky thoughts and you have a better chance of sorting it all out. Mirroring this guy's anger and hatred might help, reflecting it back at him without harming you- keep a mirror by the phone. Don't be prey, have a predator mindset and it's easier not to be scared.
Alternatively tell him that you know some badass warlocks looking for a human sacrifice and you know where he lives now- ask him if he still needs his pineal gland/heart/balls. Threaten to tell his mother what he's doing. Remind him that he is extremely lonely and dysfunctional, and to keep an eye out for a guy with glasses/scar/no hair.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:38 / 24.02.03
I'll work on a spell. Y'all can get all lovey dovey on this stalker... I'll fuck him up good. And Mei, please let us know if anything changes in this situation. Good luck.
 
 
Sebastian
17:34 / 24.02.03
Quantum, thats a very brave and confrontational approach. Only problem I see with mirroring the guy is that he will stick to no end with the calls, becuase that's what you usually get from mirroring, more of the same, and more intense.

From a past personal experience I'd definitely recommend that you appear and sound very bored, actually bored to death, when any anonymous nutso calls to insult or scare you over the phone, or to diffamate anybody. This is what gets most to their nerves, plain indifference and lack of interest, you literally have to YAWN in the phone, and when they pause to check the "effect" just say "okay, yeah" as if your tongue were really tired, or as if you couldn't stop watching TV while he was trying to get your attention, and you are waiting for him to hang up out of pure politeness, so you can continue zapping channels. You have to perspire apathy from his calls.

That will drive him histerical and probably he'll start focusing on someone else, someone more "responsive".
 
 
Seth
19:52 / 24.02.03
This person sounds like they need professional help, not *fucking up good.* Let's not turn into John Wayne, please.

Reflective workings, protective workings, disarming workings = fine.
 
 
Papess
14:36 / 25.02.03
People...thank you, so much!

***May all your courage, compassion and love return to you ten-fold***


I am safe for now. Synchronious circumstances and interesting developments are keeping me out of his reach physically at the moment.

I am getting the feeling I shouldn't worry about him bothering me anymore. Thank you everyone for your care and concern. Between practical mundane measures and magickal, I think this matter should be under control, at least from what I can predict.

I will find out soon enough, I am sure. :EEK

heh...right now, I am safe though, good enough...

A little overwhelmed with the support...my undying gratitude to all of you sweethearts...mwah!

Mordant, you make a very good point about networking with others in the same service as I , but what I have found in this rinky-dink town is more of an attempt to reform than help. Really, I do not need to be reformed, I will create me, in my own image...thank. you. very. much! (Insert jokes about my enormous ego here..:P )


Heh, I am sure you know what I mean MC, anyway. It does inspire me when to get off my butt and do something when I see this kind glaring oversight and obvious manipulation and imposition of out-moded moral codes (IMO). I don't even know where to begin though...


thanks all so much!

Love, from May
 
 
grant
14:36 / 25.02.03
Got any male friends with deep baritone voices willing to do some phone answering? Or will that negatively impact business?
If you've got caller ID and get a phone number, it might be fun posting it on here....
 
 
gravitybitch
14:41 / 25.02.03
Ooooh, Grant, that's evil. I like it!

I'm sure, given the various time zones we all live in, that we could do all kinds of things that aren't illegal at all, like attempt to send a fax to that number... Damn machines never know when to give up!

Anybody got access to a reverse phone book?
 
 
Papess
14:41 / 25.02.03
Hahaha! TGrant, that would be a hoot!

Actually, I do have caller id and his number comes up "private". The phone company has been little or no help to boot...

*sigh*...it's the cage or the wild jungle I am afraid!
 
 
grant
14:47 / 25.02.03
Do they have *69 where you're at?

In the states, dial *69 and you automatically call back the last person who called you. I'm not sure what happens with a "private" number in those cases.
 
 
arcboi
15:32 / 25.02.03
Good news all round then.

Meanwhile, I'm still confused and more than a little curious here - what sort of service do you supply Mei?
 
 
Tamayyurt
16:11 / 25.02.03
arcboi- just let it go.
 
 
penitentvandal
19:39 / 25.02.03
I'm with imp on this one, arcboi. Don't go fishin'.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:21 / 25.02.03
Having consulted with my Sources, I've been informed that my magickal involvement is not required in this instance.

Getting a bloke to answer the phone has worked for me in the past (tho' the stalker in question was kinda lame).
 
 
thedude
18:15 / 26.02.03
This might sound totally offensive, or insensitive at the very least, but what if you just embrace the phonecalls as part of some John Keel/Mothman type experience? Try and assimilate the experience into your everyday life and see what happens?
 
 
penitentvandal
21:15 / 26.02.03
I think the difference is that the Mothman calls were more weird than actually aggressive. They weren't meant to frighten people per se, but to freak people out. There is a (slight) difference...
 
 
Rev. Wright
22:41 / 26.02.03
Less real time practical and more mumbo jumbo...

...Mai I suggest that you get a picture or figure of a dragon (my totem) and whenever you are feeling vunerable place your focus upon the beast. This is the quickest way to call upon its energy. You may well feel its wings wrap around you, giving protection, and if you wish to energize yourself then take a deep breathe and feel the fire fill your lungs and expell it out of your mouth.

So Be It.
 
 
Char Aina
22:59 / 26.02.03
okay, its not at all magickal, but it worked for me.


there is a code you can dial, upon picking up the telephone for the first time after an incoming call, which blocks the number from ever calling again.(obviously you can undo it too)

my flatmates girlfriend was crank calling our house, and after denying it profusely, i pulled that on her.(or whoever it was, of course) about a week later, my flatmate shows up all angry, pumped full of adrenalin, and confronts me as to whether i had blocked his ex for some reason.
she was, you see, informed when trying to call that she had been blocked, and unwittingly revealed herself.


it may not work, they may go to call boxes, but it will mean you at least get less calls during winter.

look in the phone book for the code you need, or if that fails call up the operator.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:09 / 27.02.03
Is the situation taken care of/over, Mei? It seems like it's done and the trouble has left you from your most recent post on this thread, but I'm at the ready to help if it's still a problem. (I came to this thread late -- was away from reading up on threads here for a few days) sending you good thoughts & I'll work on something more substantial if you're still experiencing the harassment.
 
 
Papess
22:38 / 27.02.03
Yes, indeed Hunterwolf, I do believe that he won't be bothering me anymore. If he does continue, there are a thwack of suggestions here and good vibes (I am most grateful for), that quell my fears and will subdue any aggression from him.

I cannot thank you all enough. That was so quick and effective it was a bit overwhelming.

As I said before...may all the love you have shown, come back to you ten-fold.

So Be It!
 
 
Rage
23:25 / 28.02.03
It's good to know I'm not alone in this situation. For the past 6 months I've been nonstop harassed by a very sad individual, all because I walked out of his house due to feeling uncomfortable around him. There is no exaggeration when I say that he spent over 300 hours posting extremely vulgar shit/slander about me on the internet to people who were associated with me in any way possible. (example: posting this disgusting stuff about me to a local community I was in) At least 40 of my friends outright complained to me about this guy harassing them with his vile comments about me.

This is all internet silly stuff, right?

Then he starts leaving all these threatening messages in my journal about how he's going to contact Social Security and get me off SSI so I'll be flipping burgers with my cunt, or something like that. I even asked my mom to help me get this guy to fuck off, but that did nothing. My question is: "what will do something?"

I came to the realization that it would be a good idea to turn the waves he's sending out into something that enabled me to grow to new levels of understanding. As I type, he's forwarding unknown files to me. Can I transform this into a transcendental experience?

Should I do a binding?
 
 
gravitybitch
05:39 / 01.03.03
Rage - my first reaction is that at this point, a binding might be a little late.

What you might be able to do, though, is set up an alternative target.... He's invested so much time and effort already that it seems like the best thing to do is give him a virtual windmill to go after and burn himself out on.

"Windmill" might not be the best description - Black hole? Grounding strap? Jason's mirrored shield? What I'm thinking of is something that will give him something to do with the energy he has left, give him some sense of closure or completion, without affecting you any more.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:33 / 01.03.03
Jeeze Louise, Rage-- he's still at it, is he? I'm assuming you've informed his ISP of all this crap you've been put through.
 
 
thedude
22:16 / 01.03.03
Sometimes the simplest methods can be the most effective. Why don't you just take a baseball bat and beat the living shit out of him? And tell him if he does it again he'll get the same, although this time he wont be able to stand up afterwards. Then repeat until all symptoms have disappeared!
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:27 / 01.03.03
I think it might be a bit late for the baseball bat technique.
 
  

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