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Barbe-addiction help. Herbal tobacco

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Goodness Gracious Meme

16:59 / 14.02.03

hey there people

just a quickie question, do any of the UK people know of any herbal substitutes that don't taste like burnt mud?

(basically I've figured out that I really don't smoke much if I don't have tobacco around and don't notice not smoking. to a level I can deal with for now. But that because I like the odd spliff or two, I want to have something to skin up with. therefore have tobacco around. therefore I smoke fags.)

Switch to a bong.

Sorry, that was probably unhelpful. I'm not sure I understand the problem, though. I think it comes down to my failure to properly understand "skin up" in this context: is it that you just need to keep rolling papers around, and the tobacco follows where the papers go?

Or is it that fabled British thing of mixing your marijuana with tobacco? Do people really do that? Seems like a waste of good pot to me (and/or of good tobacco, for that matter)...

Enlighten me.

that

18:19 / 14.02.03

Yeah...we mix our pot with tobacco. The resinous stuff anyway, and that's the only sort of which I have any experience.

grant

18:45 / 14.02.03

What for???

Would dried mint or something taste better?

Cosmicjamas

21:55 / 14.02.03

Yes, we mix 'erb with tobacco too! Can't say why. My partner visited Texas some time ago and was shocked and stunned that grass is smoked neat.

Mourne Kransky

23:32 / 14.02.03

When I was in Texas my head fell off, because of smoking pure ganj and no tobacco. I can't do bongs. My lungs protest and have been known to bleed. I keep one for purely decorative purposes and, when in a non-nicotine phase as I have been for a week, I use a credit card pipe. Only useful for hash, tho, not much use for grass.

Char Aina

23:43 / 14.02.03

yeah, i think we smoke the tobacco joints mostly due to the supply here; a lot of solid dope comes to britain because of our island status and our shitty growing conditions. in countries with access to lots of sun and large open areas, you usually find more green and less hash.
like america and australia.

it follows that most people in these countries like to smoke a purer joint, even when we are all smoking grass.

angel

01:32 / 15.02.03

My counsellor recently suggested switching to organic tobacco. She seemed to think that it would somehow be less gunky (sorry for the technical term) than the non-organic kind. She suggested it for the very purpose you speak of Bengali!

I would assume that it can be found in Health Food Shops or somewhere of a similar nature. Being in Brighton hon, I would be very surprised if you were not able to access any.

Cheers and see you soon hon!

The Falcon

02:16 / 15.02.03

Bongs are absolutely barbaric.

Jack Fear

02:35 / 15.02.03

What, and mixing tobacco and cannabis isn't?

Talk about barbarism—that's like drinking Scotch with Coke, man.

The Falcon

03:34 / 15.02.03

I find the combo more easy-going.

"But, daddy, it's what all my friends do..."

A 'pure-hash' bong or pipe is the cause of excitement round these parts...

HOWEVER - I'm fairly sure we still drink harder'n youse, because we get practice earlier.

Bill Posters

17:05 / 16.02.03

Can send it if you need it, it's nice.

that

17:08 / 16.02.03

Does everyone but me smoke dope? I mean, without meaning to derail the thread too much here, but am I the only one?

Bill Posters

17:08 / 16.02.03

Sorry, this is what should be linked above.

Goodness Gracious Meme

17:13 / 16.02.03

Bill doesn't, I imagine. hence his offer of baccy.

And yeah, I'm not crazy about pipes at the moment, I go through phases with 'em.

Cheers for the pointers, peeps.

that

17:26 / 16.02.03

Just curious...

that

17:36 / 16.02.03

Sometimes I just feel so sort of accidentally straight-edge it's not even funny...

Jack Fear

18:03 / 16.02.03

Actually, Cholister, I don't smoke at all, neither dope nor tobacco. I have done both, in the past, but mostly for effect—I never made a habit of either. I'm interested in drug culture, but not a participant.

I hardly even drink anymore, although I used to be quite good at it; I've simply lost interest, I think. I bought a six-pack of Red Stripe last night—the first time in months we've had beer in the house—but I haven't had one yet.

I might go do that now. Yes, I think I will.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

21:50 / 16.02.03

No, Chol, I don't smoke either. (Or smoke, for that matter.) Dope just makes me cough a lot, giggle, and then go to sleep. Guess we must be mutants, or summink.

that

07:51 / 17.02.03

That must be it. Ninja mutants. Cool.

The Strobe

08:05 / 17.02.03

Nor me, Chol. I've never actually had any urge to whatsoever, mainly because whilst all my friends/acquaintances are very pleasant when they're high, there's just nothing to say any more. And I'm a bit wary of giving up control of any of my thought processes, you know. I don't want to waste CPU power

That said, now I'm on my a-ds, for the first time I can actually see an appeal in sampling but really have no urge to. And because I'm on SSRIs it's the one thing I can't do. Basically, though: no appeal, no urge. Doesn't seem like a very profitable way to spend time, to me.

Straight-edge ninjas? Join the club.

Goodness Gracious Meme

19:55 / 17.02.03

Talk about barbarism—that's like drinking Scotch with Coke, man

Or perhaps like drinking Gin with Tonic, depending on taste?

uncle retrospective

20:34 / 17.02.03

You could try Coldsfoot, a herb you can get from health shops. It smokes kinda funny (it's a very spongy draw) but it will smoke and not make you want to throw up.

De Selby

01:58 / 18.02.03

I smoked a j the other night given to me by a guy who swears by adding ginseng (!) to all of his joints. It tasted quite nice, but I don't know about quantities or anything really....

I wonder if that would help bolster the immune system?

All my other mates smoke buckets anyway...

rakehell

21:20 / 18.02.03

"Buckets" like lots, or "buckets" like bucket-bongs?

De Selby

09:24 / 19.02.03

bucket bongs... the killer of many a lung.

grant

15:42 / 19.02.03

bengali: this thread makes clear that further research is required.

I hereby formally request that you investigate scientifically and post your findings here.

Goodness Gracious Meme

18:11 / 19.02.03

Grant: I am ready and willing to take up this grave responsibility.

*starts concocting funding application*

The Falcon

20:53 / 19.02.03

Hey - Americans!

It occurs that the vast majority of cannabis we get here is in resin, 'rocky' form, which has to be powderised and that's why we commix tobacco with it.

Youse have grass, eh no?

Surely you can't just smoke powder in a j?

De Selby

00:35 / 20.02.03

We get all kinds here in Australia.

Don't you Brits get that soap bar stuff?

The Falcon

01:29 / 20.02.03

Getting grass or *gasp* skunk is a rare and exciting occasion.

I think you mean the same thing as me, Alex. Or vice versa.

Goodness Gracious Meme

11:15 / 20.02.03

Obviously I haven't finished that application yet. Had to have a spliff first...

Getting grass or *gasp* skunk is a rare and exciting occasion.

Is it? Not encountered this for a *long* time.

It's a tolerance thing. Way back when, when I didn't smoke tobacco at all (clever me.

) I used to smoke pure grass spliffs exclusively.... Now, I get that 'head falling off' feeling that Xoc so eloquently describes. Same if I drink neat gin. Not pleasant.

that

11:27 / 20.02.03

You lot have got me dreaming about the stuff now. Baked into bread. The only way I've ever tried dope (apart from inhaling second hand smoke which I used to do a lot of 'cause a couple of my old friends smoked dope pretty much constantly) is in chocolate cake.

Loomis

11:46 / 20.02.03

There you go BiP! Stick to your hash cakes. Good for your lungs and a much pleasanter experience imho. Kind of like being drunk and stoned at the same time.

And I agree, the use of tobacco is a lot to do with tolerance. In Australia, where just about everyone smokes grass rather than hash, almost everyone who smokes joints mixes the grass with tobacco, primarily 'cause if you didn't you'd be too wasted, unless you're a pretty serious smoker. And if you're such a serious smoker that you don't need the dilution, you'd probably be using bongs in the first place.

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