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Queer Granny Update

 
  

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Persephone
18:54 / 09.02.03
Hello, I hope no one minds this... I'm setting up this thread to announce updates to the Queer Granny site. Just if there's new designs or new comics & zines in the distro (once I get the distro going). I mean, I'm not going to bump this thread every time I write in my blog (once I get my blog going).

Today's update is Chaos Magickian: Too Shallow For Shamanism, by Kegboy!
 
 
Warewullf up North
19:45 / 09.02.03
Hey there, LOVE that site! Can't believe I haven't seen it before, as I remember your thread about it...


I hafta download the kiss kiss bears one!

Oh, and queergranny.com is the best url I have ever heard!!
 
 
Saint Keggers
00:03 / 10.02.03
LOL! I like the small size...looks just like a beer coaster.
 
 
Persephone
00:52 / 24.02.03
Apples Slowly Becoming Oranges

and

Danger! Mages In Training, by Kegboy.
 
 
gravitybitch
01:18 / 24.02.03
Very cool!! And the comics by kegboy are very cute - I think a few of those might make t-shirts I must own...
 
 
Sax
11:42 / 24.02.03
I'm going to have a look now but if there's no My Bloody Valentine by Sax and Lentil there's going to be HUGE trouble...
 
 
Saint Keggers
16:13 / 24.02.03
Thanks Iszabelle! I thinking about doing a cafepress thing with them.
 
 
sleazenation
17:28 / 24.02.03
eeep - and remember kids, be careful what you say on barbelith... it may end up inspiring a T-shirt design...
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
17:46 / 24.02.03
Bizunth says "Relax".
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:47 / 27.02.03
Kegboy- PLEASE MAKE MORE!
 
 
Persephone
18:52 / 01.03.03
I.M.P.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
19:57 / 03.03.03
Did anyone ever find a source for button-making equipment? Coz I love the designs but I don't wear t-shirts anymore =(
 
 
Unravelling
02:11 / 04.03.03
Love it, ripping it off as I type..... but what's 'Darkwor(l)ds'?, link led back to mages in training... no bad thing.
 
 
Persephone
11:50 / 04.03.03
Thanks for the heads up, Unravelling... all is fixed. Darkwor(l)ds is SFD's excellent short story collection. I hope to have the comic and zine distro set up by the end of this month.

PT: No, I never did look into button-making equipment. I think I'm opposed to owning the means of production...
 
 
_pin
20:08 / 04.03.03
I looked into buttons once, but I couldn'tbe bothered to make a note of any of the URLs or anything, but it was such a horribly complicated and longwinded process for what was, effectively, nada results. However, my mother's school do own a badge making machine, and so I may well buy a big load of backs and start knocking some out when I can. Will try and find some more out in the next few days...

And an idea about the whole distro thing... would it be worth sending you, in keeping with the Queer Granny ethic, just .pdfs of zines, and leave people to print their own off? I'm sure I can could scan in a copy of the sky is falling in and convert it. The only thing is I really like the... floppyness of zines, I guess, and I'd be a bit uneasy about giving out the .pdfs on the grounds that no one would actually print it off...

That said, I can't see the sky being reprinted ever again ever, so maybe you can have .pdfs of that and the new zines I make will be paper only.

Why am I thinking all this stuff out loud at you??
 
 
sleazenation
20:46 / 04.03.03
I think pdf-lead web based distro could be a really cool way of distributing comics and zines via queer granny.

What say you P? do you have pdf generating equipment?
 
 
Persephone
20:48 / 04.03.03
That's not a bad idea, Pin, about the .pdfs. If anyone wanted to do that, that would be fine with me too. Although I like the papery-ness of zines. And as they are, zines are DIY-enough to my mind to be in the spirit of the site.

Kegboy has four new mage cartoons up, by the way!
 
 
Persephone
20:57 / 04.03.03
I do have .pdf generating capabilities, sleaze. It's a very interesting idea... these .pdfs would be free, then? The more QG can be moneyless, the better... that's my basic idea, though it's not extremely thought out.
 
 
ephemerat
03:05 / 11.03.03
Do you know, I'm not sure about the provenance of this motto for chaos magickians.... I tried searching the Magick forum, but searching the Magick forum for "chaos magick" is like searching a haystack for "hay." If anyone does find the thread in question, let me know and the proper authorities will be notified. Hang on, I didn't mean that...

Dudes, I'm impressed. And, um, I have to bashfully step forward as progenitor of the original t-shirt idea. It was inspired by Mordant Carnival's hilarious musings during one of the regular internecine wars that would blow up between the different flavours of magic/k and (after much searching) can be found here.

I'm actually quite remarkably touched. Especially after being recently Barbequoted by you, Persephone. Both of you are so going on my Barbecrush list.

eeep - and remember kids, be careful what you say on barbelith... it may end up inspiring a T-shirt design...

Amen to that...
 
 
ephemerat
03:13 / 11.03.03
By both of you I mean Persephone and Kegboy, obviously, you lovely people. Mordant Carnival's been a long time Barbecrush...
 
 
Persephone
13:46 / 12.03.03
I have amended the page with proper attributions to you, rat.

Also, I started a Queer Granny FAQ in the wikispace.
 
 
Persephone
23:48 / 17.03.03
OMG, Nelson Evergreen's done a Shifter t-shirt design...
 
 
moriarty
04:52 / 18.03.03
How many times am I going to say it?

I hate Nelson Evergreen with all my untalented heart.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:26 / 18.03.03
That's just staggering. Someone must give that man the money, resources and time to produce a full-colour graphic novel thick and heavy enough to stun burglars with.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
23:24 / 18.03.03
wow. I'm making one of those.
 
 
lentil
13:12 / 19.03.03
moriarty: I'm so feeling your pain, it's like "He's a really good colourist too! AAAARGH!"

on a more general note, I'm liking that pdf idea. Excuse my ignorance, but is there any reason why pdfs would be better than tiffs? Bearing in mind that my shit is comix, not zines. I'd definitely be into people being able to download and print my stuff for free. Although, as mentioned above, would they bother? And then if you have people just viewing on their computers it moves the whole operation closer to a standard "cool stuff to look at" site rather than a "diy cool stuff distro" operation.
 
 
Persephone
00:18 / 20.03.03
If I'm not mistaken, the advantages of .pdfs are these:

* Acrobat Reader, the software for reading .pdfs, is pretty universal. Usually when you post .pdfs, you also post a link to the free Acrobat Reader download. Conversely, not everyone can always open .tifs. Actually, I can't even open .jpgs for printing on my work computer.

* Also .pdfs can be multiple pages --i.e., like books.

It's pretty much a snap to output to .pdf from a page layout program like InDesign. Husb also says that individual .tifs or .jpgs --which I assume is how comics are done-- can be put together in .pdf format. And actually this is what I have from dlotemp, so you can see how it looks --should have that up by the end of the week.

I think that people would print .pdfs. I would print them, certainly; I'm obsessive like that. Seriously, the thing about .pdfs *is* that they're printable. Just one click, and you have the whole thing in your hands. Whereas I wouldn't necessarily go to the trouble of downloading and then printing, say, eight separate .jpgs. Although I don't think there's anything really undesirable about people reading the .pdfs online...

Another thing that .pdfs would be good for is extras like Flyboy's and Sax's Shifter scripts.

But also there's still going to be people who put together their zines by hand, and I'd like QG to stay open to them too!
 
 
Persephone
00:41 / 21.03.03
Well, let's see how it works:

Jenny Everywhere in Mrs. Zirma, by dlotemp.
 
 
dlotemp
01:17 / 21.03.03
Works great!

Thank you ever so much, Peresphone for hosting my story. You are very kind. I'll post a notice in the comics board as well.
 
 
lentil
08:28 / 21.03.03
Actually that does make a whole lot of sense, thanks P. So the pdf will give you the whole document, say a 6-page story, as one download? I can see how that's better than having to download separate files. Particularly as tiffs usually clock in about 6 meg each.

I'm now having fantasises about providing pdfs with the pages set up for collation that people will somehow print off double-sided and then staple together a real zine. It'll make no sense onscreen so they'll have to get their hands dirty.

Of course that's anal and user-unfriendly, and not a serious suggestion.
 
 
_pin
08:44 / 21.03.03
I have been thinking about making two .pdfs of my next project- one for computer viewing and one for printing off and stapleing. But that's hypothetical as the sky is just one-sided A4 sheets.

Which I emailed to Pres, but then my comp crashed and so I have no idea if she got them- did you?
 
 
Persephone
12:41 / 21.03.03
No, I haven't got it... please send again, Pin!
 
 
Persephone
12:54 / 21.03.03
MC Lentil: well, why not? That's not so unfriendly, I would actually like that. It would save me the trouble of cutting apart the pages and rubber cementing my own layout. Then again someone described me as the kind of person who would churn my own butter.

Well anyway, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Is all I'm saying.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:52 / 21.03.03
Another thing that .pdfs would be good for is extras like Flyboy's and Sax's Shifter scripts.

Are these scripts up?
 
 
Persephone
10:46 / 22.03.03
No, that's just an idea I had. It would be cool, though. Maybe as extras in Shifter #1?
 
  

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