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Jennie One: discussion thread

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
20:51 / 05.02.03
Since the thread that was started when JENNIE ONE was announced degenerated pretty quickly into the pros and cons of Brian Wood in general (at least 50% my fault), I thought I’d start a new one for discussion of this graphic novel in case anyone else has bought and/or read it. Hey, it’s only about £7 in the UK!

When this was first announced, I was a big fan of Brian Wood’s work, having read Channel Zero and Couscous Express, but two weak miniseries have tempered that opinion somewhat since then. However, at the same time, more and more previews of Becky Cloonan’s art from this book and elsewhere have been available to view online. The end result was that when I bought Jennie One, I did so largely for the art.

I wasn’t disappointed in that regard, f’sho. Although there are panels and pages where you get the sense that Becky Cloonan is still feeling around to find the style(s) that work best for her*, you can also tell how much talent she has right now, and how much potential, too. In the introduction, Wood states that “Jennie One is custom-built for her talents and sensibilities”, and I think you can see that it works. I wish to God more collaborations in comics worked like that.

Okay, couple of things about the story for anyone who *has* read this, and oddly enough the elements I want to discuss might relate to certain preemptive criticisms as well... First up: Kurt. I think Kurt is perhaps the most interesting character in this book, in that he can be taken as representing both a certain kind of very likely reader and (unless I'm stretching hugely) one of the creators (Wood). I think there’s two elements to this, and though they overlap they’re basically distinct. One is about sex. This is a book in which gaps between chapters are marked by full-page, lovingly rendered drawings of the heroine’s increasingly tattooed body. I don’t think this is hyprocrisy – the connections are too blatant. “I love your tattoos.” “I know you do.” Besides, it fits too nicely with the other auto-critique going on here, which is that Kurt is a cushy, compromised capitalist, because his idea of rebelling is to immerse himself in alt/punk/fringe culture which is still a form of consumption. Well, if you buy JENNIE ONE, you're doing the same thing, right?

This is much less compromised or ambiguous view of that kind of culture than was found in Pounded – as clearly demonstrated by the scene where Jennie looks at the pictures of Hot Punk Chixx in Kurt’s wallet and declares “Fucking asshole”. Now, some would argue that keeping photos of people you’ve slept with in your wallet is much less of an asshole thing to do than stealing the wallet, clothes and laptop of someone who just helped you out. But this is the thing about revolutionary hero figures. The revolutionary hero figure is always the one who does the things everybody else cannot or will not do. And yet, Jennie is perfectly willing on using the facts that Kurt is attracted to her and has money to her advantage... much like Wood (& Cloonan) will happily take your money even if you bought this vuz you like punk girls with tattoos and you think you can be a rebel by buying a graphic novel (why u lookin' at me?). Maybe this analogy over-reaches, but I don't think so. Point is: it's all very knowing/self-aware/self-questioning, which is usually good...


Next up: the political/social comment angle. One of the more common criticisms of Channel Zero that I’ve seen is that the view of the future contained therein was naïve and improbable – and in 1997, when it was written, and even in June 2001, when the edition I have was published, I think it did seem that way, especially from a European perspective. Who really believed that the Christian right-wing were going to seize power in America and impose severe restrictions of freedom of speech?

And now here we are with Ashcroft, Homeland Security, the post-9/11 cultural climate, the US V Europe divide... Suddenly CZ is not so out there. So with the prequel, Wood gets to play this up even more - not so much "I told you so" as "Shiiiiiiit! It's actually happening!". Because it's set in a time that is part past (Guiliani is still mayor of NY) and part dystopian future, JENNIE ONE hits upon and atmosphere that feels like a barely exaggerated version of the present. Specifically the chapter with the gasmask – all that talk of “Threat Level Seven” strikes a chord that’s very redolent of London in early 03, except we don’t even get anything as concrete as a number, we’re just told that yeah, probably the tube will be gassed at some point, and yeah, pursuing a war with Iraq will make that even more likely but yeah, we’re still gonna do it anyway… But I digress. The point is, the vision of NYC here almosts makes me more depressed about the way things are in reality, because some of the 'dystopian' elements in the fiction are actually much missed in the here and now. IE: we’re not rioting in the street every day, but we probably should be.

Okay, rant over, throw rotten eggs and tell me Brian Wood is LAME now, or if anyone's read this too, gimme yr thoughts...

*One of the things I like that Cloonan does in this book is to give each of the ‘chapters’ its own signature visual style. My particular favourite has to be the ‘gasmask’ chapter mentioned above, and from that, the stand-out page has to be the one that is handily available in part online, reproduced below.

 
 
BryanDude
03:32 / 07.02.03
I bought this sucker about two weeks ago. I really like the artwork and all the clean/white/purity imagery was well executed (the snow, the canvas, her room after being ransacked...). What bothered me about this book is how emotionally vapid it is. I felt pretty much no connection to Jennie's plight and her whole reasons for being a revolutionary seem very empty to me. I actually havent yet read Channel Zero, so please send your flames my way. But in the book, It seems like she literaly just woke up one day and said "Gee, I think I'll fight the power today". To me, she seemed nothing more than a mouth-piece for Mr. Wood to bitch and moan through. There was no great turning point that sent her on her journey, and despite the cliche, i need something more motivating than an education at a shitty art school.
 
 
some guy
12:01 / 07.02.03
I think AJ's most recent Title Bout over at Movie Poop Shoot pretty much sums it up for me. The only reason Wood sells is because of the Larry Young Internet Cult of Personality...
 
 
Graeme McMillan
12:27 / 07.02.03
"I felt pretty much no connection to Jennie's plight and her whole reasons for being a revolutionary seem very empty to me... There was no great turning point that sent her on her journey, and despite the cliche, i need something more motivating than an education at a shitty art school."

That last line is exactly what Channel Zero felt like to me. Nice design work, but the writing is appallingly vapid and selfconscious.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:33 / 07.02.03
Three things, Laurence:

1) This thread is for discussing the content of the graphic novel JENNIE ONE. If you look at the first paragraph of my initial post, you'll see I started it partly because an existing thread had been derailed by general discussion of Wood's work/person. If you've read JENNIE ONE and have something to say about its content, please feel free; otherwise, please try and keep this thread free of off-topic posts.

2) Do you have a link for that column/review, if indeed it refers to the content of JENNIE ONE?

3) If you want to start a thread about Wood in general, this might be a starting point: do you really think that the number of people who are members of Wood or Young's forums can account for Wood's sales? I don't have any statistics to hand, but it seems a little unlikely to me...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:42 / 07.02.03
Okay, found it. Jeez, Laurence, I know you don't like Brian Wood, but you can't possibly disagree that this is everything is wrong with internet comics writing - the guy uses bolded capitals and mutiple exclamation marks, misses that Kurt was a character in the book and thinks a monologue was about Kurt Cobain, doesn't understand that the 'J' on one page refers to the J train even though it's mentioned on the next page, and objects to graphic novels being episodic. For starters. This is also a guy who objected to the presence of "ugly lesbians" in Global Frequency #3, and the fact that they didn't actually kiss, because if you're going to put lesbians in a comic (as part of the PC deviant trend, obviously) you may as well show them getting it on so red-blooded straight men can get off on it...
 
 
rizla mission
15:24 / 07.02.03
Not to re-open old arguments, but the sheer lameness of Wood's writing in Pounded just about put me off ever investing in his comics again, but as always..

£7 you say? All about revolutionary, subversive goings on? That art looks fantastic!

Next time I'm at the comix shop, I think I'll get it. And tell what I think.
 
 
some guy
15:38 / 07.02.03
I read a copy in the store and it was crap for all the reasons the original was crap (no characterization or story but tons of posing).

Your comments also make it clear you're not in on the joke that is AJ's column...

do you really think that the number of people who are members of Wood or Young's forums can account for Wood's sales? I don't have any statistics to hand, but it seems a little unlikely to me...

Well, Fight for Tomorrow is his highest-selling work without an X on it, and the readership for that plummeted to four digits by the time it was over.
 
 
neuepunk
03:03 / 08.02.03
For what it's worth, I like the book. I originally read Channel Zero well over a year ago and figured I'd pick up this book.

I'll try to stay light on the spoilers, but you've been warned.

I'm not sure why people seem to think that Jennie is supposed to serve as the mouthpiece for Wood's ideas. If anything, she's human. Rather than crafting characters that make the right decisions, present solid arguments, and overcome great odds to win, we get Jennie. She's not necessarily that mature, and the book is about the character's growth.

Really, venturing into spoiler territory, I think the most telling scene is when she steals her neighbor's wallet. The guy is as stereotypical as possible, so the reader might think "Yeah, that asshole gets what he deserves! What a poser, go Jennie!" But notice that at no point does he really do anything wrong; he's just another guy living his life, but Jennie feels justified in ripping him off since she's a so-called "real" revolutionary.

I appreciate characters that make mistakes and aren't in the clear-cut moral right. I think that Jennie One does this fairly well.
 
 
BryanDude
03:30 / 08.02.03
"I'm not sure why people seem to think that Jennie is supposed to serve as the mouthpiece for Wood's ideas. If anything, she's human. Rather than crafting characters that make the right decisions, present solid arguments, and overcome great odds to win, we get Jennie. She's not necessarily that mature, and the book is about the character's growth.

Really, venturing into spoiler territory, I think the most telling scene is when she steals her neighbor's wallet. The guy is as stereotypical as possible, so the reader might think "Yeah, that asshole gets what he deserves! What a poser, go Jennie!" But notice that at no point does he really do anything wrong; he's just another guy living his life, but Jennie feels justified in ripping him off since she's a so-called "real" revolutionary."

I agree that a character should have a certain amount of flaws. That's what certainly makes most characters appealing. But the interest is in watching those characters recognize and overcome their flaws. At the end of Jennie One, I had no emotion invested in her character at all. No sympathy or happiness or understanding. Her character arc was devoid of any interest and even though a character should have flaws, the story should make you understand the said character. This one did not.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:03 / 08.02.03
in the book, It seems like she literaly just woke up one day and said "Gee, I think I'll fight the power today".

The very fact that the book is episodic gives you the big hint: this is a stage-by-stage process. Jennie is initially a typical art-school student who paints something designed to cause offence because she heard something on the radio that pissed her off; the reaction to that in turn motivates her to drop out of art school. If you consider how many people are already protesting/rioting in the early stages of the book, and the fact that Jennie's basically a bystander at that stage, she's actually something of a late-starter... Subsequently, seeing someone she knows get shot in the head for spraying graffiti is obviously a huge motivating factor, but immediately it's a motivation merely to start doing some research about people who are *already* involved. Losing almost everything she owns 'motivates' her to start squatting, and thus pushes her into a kind of politicised illegality by default. But even when she's been forcibly evicted from her squat, she's not involved in the rioting, she's just photographing it - which earns her a few blows with a police baton. And *that's* the turning point, identified as such - despite everything else that's happened, it takes a moment of direct violence like that to make her the character that shows up in Channel Zero, wanting to fuck things up. That rang pretty true to me: I've never been hit a riot cop, but my experience of being surrounded by them (and detained for 8 hours along with other passers-by for the crime of being at the same location as a demonstration) made quite an impression - other people I've spoken with who've been less fortunate in their encounters with cops at demos have expressed similar feelings.

Actually, I think there's a point where it's difficult to discuss the book without getting into the politics: I'd argue the whole point is that the central character doesn't decide to attack the state - the state attacks her, and she decides or is arguably forced to respond. Which is pretty much the way it happens in real life. And there too, some people just see this response as needless bitching and whining, selfish ingratitude, which is pretty fucking chilling if you think about it, but so it goes.

(Laurence: what joke would that be? Whether or not 'AJ' is meant to be a parodic persona, I don't see why you'd want to align yourself with someone who may share your views on Wood but is demonstrably a poor reader and an obnoxious moron...)
 
 
some guy
14:18 / 08.02.03
Whether or not 'AJ' is meant to be a parodic persona, I don't see why you'd want to align yourself with someone who may share your views on Wood but is demonstrably a poor reader and an obnoxious moron...

The AJ character is a parody ... but like most satire his points are cutting and true. I also didn't say I "aligned" myself with him, only that I agree with his criticism of Jennie One. And as AJ writes in character, you have no basis for claiming he's a "demonstrably poor" reader - of course there's meaning behind the J page, but his over-the-top reaction spoofs the AiT/PlanetLar tendency to mash superfluous pages into their books in an effort to make them look more substantial (The Annotated Mantooth, anyone?).
 
  
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