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The AniMatrix

 
 
Hieronymus
20:25 / 05.02.03
I just saw the 10 minute mini-movie "The Second Renaissance Part 1" at the Animatrix site. I'm floored. I'm not much of an anime fan but some of the work in this, which I think I recognize from anime previous (the little marching robots and bartending robot especially looked familiar to me in their style), is just stunning. It's a genuine AI Holocaust and it's disturbing watching it. It might have lasted 10 minutes but it did more in that time than Spielberg's A.I. did for lo those many hours. You guys have got to check this out.

It's not meant for low bandwidth by the way. Not if you were as impatient as I was to get ahold of it. The file sizes range from 30 MB to 100+ MB, depending. But if you can get it, do.

This alone makes me think the Matrix sequels aren't just another half-ass regurgitation of ideas from the first one. The Wacko Bros really have mapped this out in a very visceral and thought-out fashion. When I get some time I'd love to start up a thread on the ideas "2nd Renaissance" had in the Switchboard or the Lab.

My only real complaint is that I'd been working on a story idea eerily similar to this animated mini-movie's. But that's just pettiness for me to bitch about.

Anybody else seen this?
 
 
Tamayyurt
22:56 / 05.02.03
I don't know anything about this Animatrix... what is it, just mini movies? Or are these part of a larger piece? Is it being released in theaters and on DVD or just online? When does the story take place before Neo and all that?

information please.
 
 
Hieronymus
01:06 / 06.02.03
Mostly they're mini-movies, done up in either CGI in the case of the "Last Flight of Osiris" movie or 2-D animation. Eventually they'll be released to DVD, probably attached to the Matrix sequel DVDs. But for now, they're being released to the Net first.

In a nut shell, they're sort of a tip of the hat to the anime influence in the Matrix, background or supplementary stories to the Matrix plot done up as anime. More information on them can be found here and a trailer on the mini-movies collectively can be found here.
 
 
Tamayyurt
04:19 / 06.02.03
cool thanks
 
 
videodrome
05:57 / 06.02.03
The whole idea is that they supplement both the film(s) and the game that's coming out. I saw The Final Flight of the Osiris yesterday on a big 'ol screen, and it was pretty cool, I have to admit. It's one of the two done by Square, the Final Fantasy folks, and it's obviously the one on which WB blew scads of cash. The photorealistic textures are great, and there's a few shots that could be mistaken for 'real' photography. (Of couse, that begs the question: if you're going to use animation, why make it look like photography? But I guess there's always the Raphaelites out there...)

That said, they still don't get the movement quite right, and there's a sense that the people are floating rather than contacting each other and the stuff around them. But the shots with the huge swarms of tentacled Sentinels do, indeed, rock. It's almost got me looking forward to the new film(s).

This particular short is really an intro to the game, but as far as I recall from the little speech Joel Silver gave, there's a few that will give backstory, and some that will develop the plot alongside the films. So yeah, the idea is that they're part of the whole thing, rather than little Itchy and Scratchy in The Matrix kinda things.

Though that would be good, too.

And yes, it's out on dvd in (IIRC) June. Or maybe late May. I threw away the little promo card...one can only suspect that there will be some sort of super DVD box set when all's said and done.
 
 
Utopia
17:06 / 07.02.03
...Yeah, but anyway...

*Spoiler*
Why would the people just bury the robots in a mass grave? I can't even throw my TV away in my town dump, with all the phosphors, etc. Wouldn't thems robots have a ton of battery chemicals inside of them (or some type of mini-nuclear reactor)?
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
18:06 / 09.02.03
they're solar powered. that's why the humans nuked the world into nuclear winter
 
 
000
11:00 / 02.05.03
Just saw the Osiris Animatrix one yesterday. Is there any order on how (and when) they are presented at the cinema, or do I have to check chicken entrails?
 
 
Hieronymus
13:33 / 02.05.03
Osiris is the only one you can see at theatres. The remaining ones are being released online, bit by bit, until the DVD collection comes out in June.
 
 
000
18:57 / 04.05.03
Thank you Mass.
 
 
Hieronymus
03:17 / 08.05.03
The Second Renaissance Part 2 just fired up on the Matrix site today and if anybody likes their apocalypses graphic, this one's for you.
 
 
NotBlue
17:52 / 10.05.03
Apparently for the UK peeps, channel 5 are going to show "the final flight of the Osiris" on their "matrix night" which is coming "soon".
 
 
w1rebaby
23:07 / 10.05.03
Second part: good. Better than the first, which I thought was rather cheesy at times - lovely animation, but just another racism-metaphor, revenge-of-the-robots story. This part steers clear of the heavy-handed stuff and concentrates more on spectacle and imagery.

(The "power from humans" thing still doesn't make sense, I was hoping they'd sort that out, but whatever.)
 
 
molotovwaiting
13:53 / 14.05.03
Saw last friday all 'the animatrix' shorts at the cinema. have to say i was a bit disappointed. i was actually more interested in the different comics they have going on the website which better explore the Matrix universe (which don't need to involve the film's main characters or massive fight scenes). that being said i think the animatrix shows that the Matrix film universe is limited in it's ideas as most of the stories involve some kind of fight for freedom. it's this fight for a better world which sounds great but has no real sense of struggle and change - kind of like the perverted and silly extremes one can take with revolutionary stances as shown in fight club - the revolution is such a adrenalin high that the everyday of everyday people is forgotten in the broad sweep of a manifesto (a similar thread is going on over in the comics section in discussing the new authority book in relating to how lame the relaunch is).
there was one short that i found interesting, 'Beyond' which looked at some kids who find a glitch in the matrix and use it as a magical escape to do amazing stunts (like kids on aerosol cans). a strange day fo ordinary people, not some kungfu epic punchy chew. there was also 'world record' about a top athlete who breaks through the matrix through his sheer athletic genius - drawn in an aeon flux style.
may i say that the 'Final flight of the osiris' cgi wiz bang tit and arse display was the most boring - so what if it relates to the reloaded film - it cost 5 million, 70 people and about a year to make by the Final fantasy team - (btw - does the new radiohead clip have a cgi thom yorke in it? looks weird though in a good spooky way) - read an interview in a digital media mag with the director of osiris decribing how they get off on the rendering and motion capturing and hair folicles of their creations though the directors favourite shot has nothing to do with this geometry and logistics - his fav shot is a CU of the female characters arse with g string; they need to get out more and flog that cheesestick.
end schtick - borrow the dvd off a friend or watch it on the site and see the reloaded for the action flick it is.
 
 
rakehell
04:06 / 15.05.03
I also saw all the films over the weekend and have to agree that "Beyond" is the best of the lot. Such a different side to the Matrix, just kids having fun and not having any idea what's going behind the scenes not even when the clean up crew arrives and the magic disappears. which clean up provokes not anger but sadness and longing.

I was convinced that "World Record" was by Peter Chung - the Aeon Flux guy - but it turns out that story was "Matriculation" which was also quite good, if very strange. Nice psychadelic animation though.

FFotO is just annoying in its cheeseness. I don't really understand the desire to make animation look as much as photography as possible and CGI butts do not a story make. That said the scenes of the world above ground are suitably impressive.
 
 
moriarty
04:16 / 01.06.03
Just got the dvd. I agree that Beyond and World Record were the best of the bunch, but most of the others had something going for it. Definitely better than the movies. It had more passion and better characterization, despite being shorts. I haven't gone through all the extras yet, but I'm probably going to enjoy them even more than the films, big animation geek that I am.
 
 
Sebastian
22:25 / 01.06.03
My point with these shorts is that they really don't stand much on their own, maybe those most standing to themselves being the detective story and the runner guy one, while the others sliding into oblivion and increasingly overshadowed by the actual movies.

The Last Flight of The Osiris is of course for me the extreme, absolutely pointless out of the movies context. Anybody cares when the ship blows?

Still, I would immerse my face in that arse.

Think I'll summon just her in dreams.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:31 / 01.06.03
I saw the Osiris one when C5 showed it, and thought it stank. Softcore CGI produced for no other reason than "because we can."
 
 
reFLUX
19:47 / 02.06.03
channel 5 is showing all the Animatrix shorts it seems. i agree the Osiris thing was pretty shit, except for the amazing animation, it was just a lame prequal to Reloaded which would have been a part of the movie itself. the 2nd Renaicance though was good, but why break it into 2 parts? looking forward to the rest though. they make an interesting adition to the main trilogy.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:52 / 02.06.03
Really? When is C5 showing them?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:00 / 02.06.03
There's one on at 0005 tonight.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:51 / 09.06.03
I Looooooooved the Sword Porn!!!

But my fave was BEYOND... who directed that one?

WORLD RECORD was very impressive as well.
 
 
AfroBarber
22:59 / 09.06.03
I LOVE THE ANIMATRIX. But i feel that 'Kid's Story' encourages children to jump off of buildings, in hope that they will wake up in the "real world". I dont think this is a very good move personally.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
20:37 / 20.06.03
OK, got the DVD out from the library and watched it this evening in the order on the disc, namely 'Final Flight of the Osiris', 'Second Renaissance', 'Kid's Story', 'Program', 'World Record', 'Beyond', 'A Detective Story' and 'Matriculated'. This was precisely the wrong order to put them in, as you proceed the stories get worse and worse.

I quite liked 'Final Flight', yes the fight scene is just porn, but they should have shown that in cinemas a month or two back as the trailer to the film. And helps to expand the idea of the resistance being more than just Morpheus' crew with more grace than being dumped into it 5 minutes into 'The Matrix Reloaded'. 'Second Renaissance' was interesting, the early bits of it and the style of the robots consistent with the comic that (I think it was) Darrow drew for the website around the first film. It was interesting how Zion's records seem to indicate it was humans at fault for the circumstances that led to their imprisonment in the Matrix. Based on what Morpheus told Neo in the first film that historical record was sketchy it seems more likely that Morpheus never bothered to learn their history and no-one told him about Zion's data.

'Kid's Story'. Dull. And the Kid seemed able to leave the Matrix without an exit, which thus far it seems even Neo couldn't do (well, we don't know that he can't, just that we haven't seen him do it). Yet, in the film Kid is treated like an annoying fanboy, you would of thought someone might have said "Maybe the Kid is special in someway?"

I liked the look of 'Program', it's what 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' would have looked like if they'd had a big budget and done fancy computer graphics. It's a bit disappointing that 'wanting to return to the Matrix' wasn't treated as a genuine desire, again, that once out everyone loves taking their turn shovelling the shit below decks.

'World Record'. About the only thing in it's favour is the highly impressionistic graphics, almost like Kevin Mills' 'Marshall Law' stuff brought to 'life'. Some dodgy colouring decisions and a story that was utterly shit. Why didn't an agent just jump into the runner's body itself? (Or the Kid in 'Kids Story' now I come to think of it, or Neo's body at the start of the Matrix)

I've only watched three or four anime films and have alwasy been unnerved by the way they're quite happy to stop the plot for fifteen or twenty minutes to just play around with an idea, the 'hallucination with toys' scene in the middle of Akira or the way the bad kid just keeps growing bigger and bigger at the end. I think that, growing up in a culture where every second of screen-time has to be justified or is cut, something about that languidness unsettles me. So the fact that the plot of 'Beyond' only takes about 1 minute and the other 9 minutes of the thing is spent dicking around, on the theme of playing with the errors in the Matrix... very dull.

'Detective Story' brightened my day, though is it set pre-Matrix, pre-Matrix Reloaded? The overt stylisation of the city to make it appropriately noir do interfere with placing it smoothly within the context of the film, but it is a nice little story.

'Matriculated'. While it's nice to see the world when the humans were still living above ground the story was toss. So, you kidnap robots and make them think they're half human and then you shag them and that wins them over to your side? Utter crap. The only nice thing was the consistency of design with 'Renaissance' and the less sophisticated look of the sentinals to show they had made some improvements over that time period and the time of the films.

So, a mixed batch, as with any compilation, of variable quality. Worth watching, but perhaps not necessarily worth buying.
 
 
DaveBCooper
13:47 / 23.06.03
Agree wholeheartedly with Ladytron about it being a mixed bag – I watched them one a night for a week or whatever it is, and it felt a bit samey, and mainly suffered from the problem of spending too long building up the atmosphere etc and then suddenly ending. But some interesting stuff there.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
05:53 / 26.06.03
I quite liked Kid's Story, and A Detective Story was wicked. The CGI t'n'a in Osiris was juts embarrassing, frankly, but when it got to the full on robot-shooting action things brightened up. Second Renaissance- not hugely original, but it looked lovely, and confirmed my feeling from Reloaded that the robots really should blow the fuck out of Zion.
Overall I prefer the DVD to Reloaded...
 
 
DaveBCooper
09:31 / 26.06.03
Apologies if I've missed it earlier, but is it just me that thinks Zero-One and Zion could be one and the same ?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:29 / 27.06.03
Yeah, 'Second Renaissance' does rather lead to an uncomfortable feeling that maybe humankind rather gets all it deserves. Possibly this will mean that in the third film the two sides of the war will merge into one/there is no war/wake up try to remember blah blah doomlord.
 
  
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