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Pavement : What about the voice of Geddy Lee?

 
 
Old brown-eye is back
15:54 / 29.01.03
Having just fallen in love with Pavement's Slow Century DVD, I'm wondering what other Malkmus-related items are worth having. Anyone know?
 
 
rizla mission
16:00 / 29.01.03
Since I've just bought the new, improved 2CD version of 'Slanted & Enchanted', I was actually going to start a thread asking if anyone wanted my copy of the original album. I figured rather than selling it for £2 or something, it would be nice to spread the joy of Pavement by giving it to a worthy soul..

As to which Malkmus-related items are worth having, I'm sure Flux will be charging in soon to give you the run down, so I think I'll leave things to him.. (although basically the answer's 'ALL OF THEM!')
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:27 / 29.01.03
There isn't any Malkmus records not worth owning, unless maybe you want to count his sideman work with the Silver Jews. Even still, one of his best songs ("Blue Arrangements") appears on the otherwise dire Silver Jews 'American Water' LP, so that's essential in spite of itself.

The thing I'm wondering about is this - how did you come to get Slow Century before the actual Pavement albums? In a way, Slow Century is the best primer to get into Pavement, but I can't imagine anyone actually buying it first.

If you've watched Slow Century, you certainly don't need to be told about Pavement's history, or even what the albums sound like. There's only five Pavement albums, and they're all essential. All of the early singles and eps are collected on Westing (By Musket And Sextant), and that's slightly less essential. If you're going to buy Slanted & Enchanted, I urge you to get the new reissue version, because it packs in a lot of amazing extra songs from that era.

There's a LOT of non-album Pavement songs floating around. I'd be happy to hook you up with it. It'll be a while before all of the Pavement albums will be reissued the way S+E has been, so patience may not be a virtue if you're hungry for it all now.

As for post-Pavement records, Malkmus hasn't stopped being brilliant. He's playing with a new band called The Jicks, who are considerably tighter and more professional players than Pavement. This is pretty much a logical progression, especially on the newest album Pig Lib, which features a lot of songs which are a lot more complicated musically than anything Malkmus ever played with Pavement. This doesn't mean he's gone prog, or that he's sacrificed his playful aesthetic - the post-Pavement stuff isn't all that much different from Pavement besides the new band having better chops and Malkmus indulging in a few narrative story-songs. The Malkmus albums keep up the logical progression of Malkmus' songwriting - if you listen to each album in order from S+E through Pig Lib, it makes perfect sense.

Spiral Stairs has put out some records with his new band, The Preston School Of Industry, and though they aren't on the same level of quality as the Malkmus solo albums, they're still solid indie rock records. There's only one full length LP right now, All This Sounds Gas, and I'd recommend that album over the singles and EPs the band has put out. Though some of the songs are a bit generic indie pop, there's a few songs that are really quite good and Spiral does a fairly good job of clinging to the S+E vibe that Malkmus has long since abandoned. There's a reason why some of the more conservative "I wish things were the way they were back then" Pavement fans prefer Preston School to the Jicks.
 
 
suds
17:23 / 29.01.03
my two cents is that the silver jews are in fact rocking. and american water is one of my favourite lps! david berman is the main guy behind the silver jews and he has a book of poetry called "actual air" which is really amazing.
another pave side project i dig is a band called free kitten which has the pavement bassist & kim gordon in it. my favourite album by them is "sentimental education" it's rockin!
x
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:57 / 30.01.03
Oooooh, riz, are you my best friend? I must have that album! I'm torn though, because, well, I really feel like I should buy the reissue. If only for "Shoot the Singer" because I really like that song, and it doesn't seem like it's too readily availble. Although flux did provide the concert and a few other bits and pieces from it for me. Where did you get your copy of the reissue, riz ?

Funny, I was thinking I should start a Pavement thread as well. But I'm lazy. I just got Crooked Rain. Mostly because it features one of my favourite songs ever, ever, ever. Gold Soundz! Yes! Summer, here we come!

And call me lazy, but I want Flux to tell me about the references to other bands at the end of "range life". Just because.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
11:59 / 30.01.03
Re; Range Life -

Malkmus, in a TV interview excerpted on "Slow Century" - "It's not about their music. It's personal!"
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:15 / 30.01.03
Suedehead, if you love "Shoot The Singer", the odds are extremely high that you will also love a lot of the other songs from that session - "Frontwards", "Lions", "Texas Never Whispers", "Greenlander", "So Stark, You're A Skyscraper", "Sue Me Jack". The S+E reissue also includes the Peel sessions from that era, which are all excellent too, especially "Circa 1762", "Ed Ames", "Rain Ammunition" and "Kentucky Cocktail". The reissue version really is worth your money - it's got everything you need from that era of the band in a tidy package with a nice embossed slipcase and a little book of artwork, original lyric sheets, and essays about the record. The only negative thing I can say about the reissue is that the bonus tracks disrupt the effect of the album ending with "Our Singer". But you can pretend.

As for "Range Life", what do you mean? Going on all the interviews Malkmus has given in which he may not have been kidding around with the interviewer, he's said that "Range Life" is written from the perspective of an old hippie, and he can't really get into the new popular rock bands of the day. If you read the lyrics, you can see that SM is probably not bullshitting with that answer.

When Pavement would play live, SM would often adlib that part of the song, working in different bands. "Out on tour with the Kula Shaker, I saw them on the cover of the Melody Maker", stuff like that.
 
 
rizla mission
10:13 / 31.01.03
Got my copy of the re-issued S & E in Selectadisc in Nottingham. £16, but worth it. What happened to that Matador jive about the reissue being "the same price as a normal CD"?

So nobody wants my old, obsolete Slanted & Enchanted then?
c'mon, somebody who's never heard Pavement before speak up - may not have any extra tracks, but it's still such a damn fine album it should be made illegal..
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:04 / 31.01.03
Well, if you shop in the US, the S+E reissue is a few dollars more than the non reissue version, depending on the store where you're buying it. The nonreissue is a midprice item, and the reissue is a specially priced 2cd set, retailing for the price of a regular Matador list cd.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:43 / 31.01.03
I can't find the reissue anywhere in Leicester. Which is annoying. But I did find it on play.com for a stunning £11.99. It's just a pity they are completely sold out.

Amazon have it for about £13 though, I think.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:29 / 31.01.03
Suedehead, you should try looking for shops to order from using GEMM, which is an online mail order network of UK record stores. I just checked for "Slanted And Enchanted", and it seems that there are a few different shops offering the reissue version for under ten UK pounds. Go for it.

(Just make sure you set the currency to UK pounds - I think the default is US dollars.)
 
  
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