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02:51 / 18.01.03
Since the second world war
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
Has bombed 21 countries
China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1985
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-20??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-02
 
 
Turk
05:31 / 19.01.03
Oh please, it's more than 21, they've dropped the H-bomb in Spanish territories for starters.
 
 
tom-karika nukes it from orbit
08:30 / 19.01.03
Yemen, 2002 (Hunter-Killer Drone = Jumped-up Bomb in my eyes)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:32 / 19.01.03
Not disputing any of this, ic, but as your thread title says, these are but facts. Is anybody disagreeing (other than to add some more)? Some kind of context may help discussion along, because I don't think you're likely to get many people actively saying "yeah, but that was all cool shit to do!"

All's I'm saying is, well yeah, tell us something we don't already know, or at least put some kind of discussable angle on it. Otherwise you may as well just be a graph, and, useful though they may be, graphs don't tend to keep their end up in conversation.
 
 
innercircle
16:38 / 19.01.03
Dante’s Inferno America

The US consumes the most resources in the world, is the richest and most powerful nation on earth, embraces free trade and privatisations for other countries and yet protects its own Agriculture, Steel, Financial industries, it spits out pollution more than any other country in the world and yet gives the least per capita back to the world of any nation.

Democratically they are reversing into totalitarianism with all the impeachment laws made redundant under Clinton and now Bush’s Fast Track, and
Homeland Security bills all decreasing the accessibility of the average citizen to the Political forum and permitting the restrictions of freedom of the general populous.

On the other side of the fence the politicians themselves come
form large corporations and when they finish their term, they return to the fold. All the while in office being salaciously propositioned and coerced by large corporations to enforce a Business point of view. Its almost as if once
elected these ‘politicians’ give up long termism, recognising the limitations of their own short term, they create the best situation for that
period.

The low turn out for elections has emphasised the fanatics power, allowing only the truly funded or fanatical politician into the spotlight. This stat of affairs directly returned another Bush to the White house last year. His ‘victory’ of a few thousand votes, attributable to lack of commitment from a disenfranchised audience and his platform due solely to the investment of media and oil businesses. Oh we forgot to mention that his father was President, which always lends an air of honesty in African dictatorships.

This is the man that leads the US. Marginally more popular than his opposition financed by the leading Multinationals and a stammering xenophobic fool who has rarely been outside of the US. This man is Commander in chief of the largest Military machine on the planet is committed to using it because it is the only policy he has initiated that has brought any boost to his popularity, capitalising on the 911 Fear. His foolish, inhuman assertion that Iraq now is a target because of the threat they represent likens him to Tom Cruise of Minority Report relying on the clairvoyants of Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice to presume Saddam guilty before committing a crime.

His anti corruption Showbiz Strikes were dazzling in their hypocrisy, when he and several of his henchmen are being sued and investigated simultaneously for the exact same crimes. His Homeland Security act and Fast track Bills act to further distance the decision making process from the very people he is supposed to represent.

Old ideas that could play a part in curtailing Americans global social abuse have become ineffective. The UN castrated by the knife of American Veto, the IMF/WB directly pursuing the American financial exploitation principles in deference to scathing internal criticism from within in the form of Nobel Prize winner Josef Stigliz, a former Presidential advisor and member of the World Bank. The WHO toothless in the face of Patent Law. The ICC and Kyoto
agreements boycotted by the Americans. Even the Russian Communism couldn’t stand up to them despite being diametrically opposed unlike these
intergovernmental toothless public relations quangos

This is the World in which we live where, Americans teeter on the edge of social obesity, refusing to share resources or concern. Shall we, proverbially bending over ask ‘How Deep would you like your anal intercourse Captain America? The world cowers in fear of this Military / Economic giant, ostensibly shunning Global Summits, world agreements on International Courts and Environmental control meanwhile dominating us with its Patents and Trademarks, its Brands and Tariffs and Military might. The world is a colony for America. Just one large homogenous market, to dump their rubbish on, flood with products and exploit the resources . The exploitation of Africa and South America, Middle East and Asia, has enabled the US to become reach the height of its Empirical Status. Like all Colonial Masters of old, they will now commence the decline phase as they trip gleefully into war with the Arabs and eventually the EU.
The only current potential balance for the Super US is the EU. This united body of more socially and culturally aware peoples have within its grasp to become the new model for GeoPolitics. However the tendency to impose protectionist tariffs and restrict immigration, are not encouraging. But the less war like attitude the larger social support systems the more democratic approach to solutions, is a far better basic model than the rampant Capitalism of the US.
However if the other regions in the world adopted a similar cluster shape this may give them greater strength against the Master Race US . South America should develop a Union of Southern Americas, giving greater voice and negotiating strength to the people of that region. Asia could do the same. Most importantly if Middle East were to unify and exert their real power on the world by restricting and controlling Oil, they would create an imperative for renewable energy in the west and at the same time control the umbilical chord of the spoilt American child.

These developments are necessary not because of any anti American sentiment but rather to achieve balance and harmony in the world. We should not be dominated by anyone state. We should extend the right of democracy not only to every person in every country, but to each nation participating in global governance. Universal Suffrage!

How is it right that Non Americans die each day from preventable diseases, lack of food and clean water, with no jobs and a polluted earth, allowing the corporate extracting of their resources, corrupt dictators to siphon off funds and beat opposition into the ground, supplied by US military companies, supporting chaos in a covert attempt to control the Globe. US Aid last year was $36m while subsidies to American farmers stood at $350 million. Well done you pollution burping, brain washed clones.

The consumption of the US is out of control and meanwhile kids die every day in situations that just a little bit more giving could eradicate. You USE THE WORLD America! And don’t be surprised if we get sick of it. Your ability to see pictures of starving, Aids ridden, African children while simultaneously stuffing another Big Mac in your ever cavernous mouth is the most positive proof of mans link with animals since Neanderthal Man.




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Our Lady of The Two Towers
19:39 / 19.01.03
Yay! I can tick off homophobia now on my Troll bingo card for ic.

And I probably shouldn't be the one to point this out but treating the US as one homogenous unit isn't that good an idea, Bush is reducing the tax burden on the top twenty percent of their society while increasing it for everyone underneath, a fair bit of what you say the rest of the world suffers from in the last two paragraphs could easily cover chunks of the United States too.
 
  
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