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Lotsa money and no sense!

 
 
Potguns
17:07 / 17.01.03
What graphic novels should I be reading that a little marvelite like myself wont have heard of. Any recomendations?? The weirder headfuckky yet magnificent type are preffered.

Thanks Pot.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:32 / 17.01.03
When you say "graphic novel," are you only talking about self-contained books with a beginning, middle, and end? Or are you including trade paperbacks—collections of a number of issues of a longer series, which may take five or ten (or more) books to tell the story in its entirety?

What kind of stuff do you read already? What are you interested in? Genre preferences? Do elves and dragons make you puke blood? Does hard science fiction make your eyes glaze over? Are you a superhero fan looking for new and different superheroes? Or would you take it in stride if I handed you a comics novel about, say, a barnstorming Jewish baseball team of the 1930s?

What constitutes "weird"? Weird superheroes? Anything that isn't superheroes?

Are you looking primarily for Anglo-American comics, or would you be open to Japanese manga, or to European graphic albums?

I'll need something to work with, here.

In the meantimes, I can suggest that you visit Artbomb: they've got recommendations and reviews of hundreds of graphic novels and collections, some with sample pages you can view online, and you can browse them all by genre.
 
 
Potguns
19:07 / 17.01.03
Ok im fairly open minded genre wise at the moment tryin to veer away from the superhero thang and sci fi kinda bores me, prefer the kind that span lots of novels as long as the whole series is there. I got back into comics with the Earth X, the Invisibles and Promethea. Im kinda uneducated in this field of comics and would like other quality publications in this tone.

Pot.
 
 
Jack Fear
20:02 / 17.01.03
Okey dokey, then.

Off the top of my head, I'd recommend:

RED ROCKET 7: Hi-fi sci-fi, as an alien clone moves Zelig-like through forty years of rock'n'roll history against the backdrop of a pleasantly whacked fifties-style bug-eyed monster movie. Mike Allred wrote and drew it; not life-changing, but it's executed with great love and enormous energy.

THE ADVENTURES OF LUTHER ARKWRIGHT: written and drawn by Bryan Talbot. Even more than from Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius books, Arkwright is the rich, funky soil from which Gideon Stargrave grew. An adventure that literally spans all of time and space, with nothing less than the next stage of human evolution at stake. Groundbreaking in its use of cinematic techniques: expanded the vocabulary of comics hugely. Done in the mid-1970s, and looks like it was drawn yesterday. Essential.

HEAVY LIQUID: Paul Pope wrote and drew. Takes place in the future, but is only barely "science fiction"—it's a story about love, and art, and addiction—and, most of all, about yearning. Beautiful/ugly artwork, loose and full of life. Sweet and strange.

FINDER: Carla Speed McNeil. Indescribable. Epic. Packed to the gills with ideas, with brilliantly-realized characters and relationships, in a world almost but not quite entirely unlike our own (but human nature never changes...)—and it's the teasing hints of familiarity that so ensnare—a world at once impossibly advanced and fallen to ruin—a world that slowly unfolds itself as you read, with never an indigestible chunk of exposition, but through the careful accretion of detail. You can see the storytelling and the art come into their own before your eyes: the early chapters are a trifle uncertain, but Speed soon hits her stride and just keeps getting better. Huge bravura scenes and tiny intimate details. A phenomenal work.


CHANNEL ZERO and METABARONS would probably be good calls too, but I'll leave it to someone else to pitch for them...
 
 
000
20:12 / 17.01.03
Re: Paul Pope, this link will yield alotta Pope goodness. Get The One Trick Rip Off, if he seems great to you -- it was such a nice surprise when it was serialized in Dark Horse Comics.
 
 
dlotemp
22:14 / 17.01.03
METABARONS is a wild read and probably has much of what you're looking for. To paraphrase Warren Ellis, "There's a mad idea on every page." The METABARONS, published by Humaniods Publishing, is about a clan of beings who become the most feared warlords in the galaxy. The backdrop is epic, spanning thousands of worlds and years, but the motivations are eternal: greed, revenge, honor, and hope. Lots of action, lots of drama, excellent art, and refreshing ideas. One of my particularly favorite bits is that each member of the clan must survive a ritual mutilation, which gives the characters a certain amount of pathos and subtext. Try an issue or two. I recommend buying an odd number issue and its antecedent even issue since they seem to comprise a whole story.

BONE is another great book that combines the grandeur of Tolkein with the fun and wit of Disney. Three cousins are kicked out of their town and end up in a valley filled with strange creatures. At times, it's hilarious and at others it is deadly serious. An all ages book. The author, Jeff Smith, used to be an animator and he has excellent design and storytelling abilities. Just a really good book, not much of a mind wack though.

GHOST IN THE SHELL is a sci-fi manga that delves into serious philosophy about consciousness and identity. It's graceful and frightening at the same time.
 
 
Mr Tricks
22:54 / 17.01.03
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
 
 
Jack Fear
23:33 / 17.01.03
...which is a book that you might enjoy because...
 
 
dlotemp
00:31 / 18.01.03
...cause those guys are ...more than ordinary?

Good conversationalists?

I hear Mr. Hyde is the life of the party but the Invisible Man is too obviously looking for attention.
 
 
dlotemp
00:42 / 18.01.03
I'd feel bad if I didn't mention two Vertigo series that seem fairly interesting: FABLES and 100 BULLETS.

FABLES is a book about all the characters from classic fables, like Red Riding Hood, Prince Charming, Big Bad Wolf, etc. set in the modern day. The characters are now expatriates in NYC because they have been run out of their "homeland" by a tyrant fable. The first trade just came out and was a nice murder mystery that allowed the reader to enter their world. It's not a GREAT book but it's well-done, inventive and respectful to the reader which means it stands a few feet above other books on the market.

100 BULLETS is ostensibly a crime noir about a man - Agent Graves - who gives select individuals a suitcase with an unmarked gun, untraceable bullets, and all the proof you need to know about the person who has messed up your life. That part of the story is a bit gimmicky, at least for me it was, but each story quickly catapults away from there into its own trajectory. HANG UP ON THE HANG LOW was a great story about a delinquent thug who reconnects with the son he abandoned. The writer has an incredible ear for dialogue and atmosphere. Also, HANG UP ON THE HANG LOW, which is the 3rd book, and the 1st book are both cheap collections - $10 us.
 
 
000
00:46 / 18.01.03
Oh, I just realized, if any part of the Jenkins/Phillips run of Hellblazer has been collected as a trade, you could do worse things with your money. Not a lot of people were into their interpretation of John Constantine but to me he was humanized into something I could care about. The other creative teams had failed spectacularly to catch my interest but at some point when the Jenkins/Phillips run was nearing it's end, I discovered it and caught up with the back issues. Nice stories, well thought out art that is deceptive in its looseness, and great colorists.
 
 
Captain Zoom
01:08 / 18.01.03
Gloomcookie v.1 - cute goth fairy tale. won't change your life, but it'll certainly entertain you for a while.

From Hell - The only graphic novel that took me a solid week to read. The most in depth jack the ripper story I've ever read, beautifully stark art and a far cry from the god awful film version. My dad always hated my comic collecting, but he read this and thought it was brilliant.

Animal Man v.1 - if for nothing else then for "The Coyote Gospel", perhaps one of the best stories ever. Still perhaps my favourite of all of GMs series, excepting perhaps flex.

quickly, for more eclectic (sp?) reads: Stranghaven (Twin Peaks in the English countryside), Cerebus:Church & State v.1+2 (from politician to pope, my fave of the cerebus run so far), any Hellboy, 'cause it's what the X-Files could have been.

There are so damn many.

Zoom.
 
 
Potguns
13:51 / 18.01.03
Ta for everyones input think im gonna delve into 100 bullets and bone to start with.
 
 
The Falcon
22:17 / 18.01.03
Unfortunately, none of the Jenkins Hellblazer has been put into trade.

I'd heartily recommend the Milligan/Allred X-Force tpbs. Which is a Marvel mutant comic, but supremely off-the-wall.
 
  
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