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An Alternative to the Alternative

 
 
Shortfatdyke
15:43 / 17.01.03
I'm in a bad mood, so this is probably a bad time to begin this topic. Basically, I'm chair throwingly fed up of the sf/horror small press. I love the concept and aims of it and I've done very well in getting published in a lot of magazines, but I am tired of editors who act as if they're Gods and make it clear that bribery is necessary if you want your work even read by them. Even if they know and like your stuff.

Is this inevitable? The small/independent press is incredibly important, I think, to writers who don't want to write junk mainstream stuff. Same as with other 'artists' - musicians etc, if you're out of the mainstream, you need a way to get your voice heard. I understand that a small run magazine needs support; it's no good to expect them to keep going without buying some of them, but when a subscription is a requirement for getting a polite e-mail from them.... well, I'm at the stage now of beginning to look for a literary agent.

Is the alternative to the alternative going back to the mainstream?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
22:57 / 17.01.03
Probably. We all know your heart's in the right place but you need an audience for your stuff and there are a lot of good people out there swimming with the sharks and surviving with good grace and hungry people reading their stuff. Go for it, sfd. (But I am so-o-o-o compromised, you probably shouldn't be listening to me).
 
 
rizla mission
15:25 / 18.01.03
Basically, I'm chair throwingly fed up of the sf/horror small press.

So am I .. not that I have any contact with it, but I've always found the vast majority of it pretty rubbish..(possibly as a result of the problems you speak of).

And your self-published book wasn't rubbish, incidentally, it was good. Thus I'd heartily recommend ignoring zine editors if behave like pricks and being safe in the knowledge that you're probably better than them..

Plus, the 'underground' isn't supposed to be one huge single entity .. I don't see why there shouldn't be lots and lots of different, um, branches of it, and if you don't find any to suit your needs there should always be the possibility of starting your own.. I reckon that's a pretty good principle on which to base any variety of DIY culture..
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:02 / 18.01.03
There are indie snobs everywhere...
 
 
that
16:10 / 18.01.03
I told her to start her own, donkeys ago. I think it's a bloody great idea - definitely a gap in the market for a decent horror small press or summat. And I even came up with a cool name.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
18:19 / 18.01.03
Basically I'm frustrated because the small/independent publications have been around for centuries, usually to promote an alternative point of view to the establishment or to thumb one's nose at the big magazines. There has been alterntive religious and political papers since printing was invented. In more recent times, the small press has covered just about everything, and I've been involved with it for over half my life. Music fanzines have been guilty of mutual backslapping, not being able to take criticism, playing it safe etc - and it really gets me that the problems I and others I know are having is not about the writing, it's about whether or not someone can afford to write a cheque or kiss arse. So the point of doing a small press magazine becomes continuing to do the mag rather than discovering and promoting good writers who would otherwise never be heard.

There was talk on Barbelith of starting a new magazine, which I still think is a great idea. Would it go the same way though? Would ego and the 'name' of the mag become more important than what it was created for? I'm trying not to be cynical. Perhaps one offs are the best way forward; the contents would surely be then at the forefront. I do feel a bit of a traitor, turning my back on the small press, but I want to get somewhere with my writing and I've just had enough. But that doesn't mean I intend to compromise on the what I write about. Which means, of course, that the chance of a book deal is virtually zero.

And yes, Chol, if nothing else, 'my' mag would have had a great name!
 
  
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