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Re-evolution

 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:49 / 16.01.03
Story here

After examining DNA from 35 species of walking sticks, evolutionary biologist Michael Whiting and his colleagues at Brigham Young University in Utah found that wings had been lost in some of the primitive insects and then re-evolved at least four times over tens of millions of years.

“Traditional thought for the last two centuries has been that wings had only evolved once in evolution, but our study demonstrates that in walking stick insects, wings were re-evolved on multiple occasions,” Whiting said in an interview.

The research, reported in Thursday’s issue of the journal Nature, challenges basic beliefs of evolution — that wings evolved only once in insects and that if a trait is lost it cannot be regained.

He likened his observation to a mammalogist discovering a whale walking around on legs. “It really is quite a remarkable and revolutionary idea,” he added.
 
 
Pirate Ven Will Teach You To Lambada (The Forbidden Dance)
21:51 / 16.01.03
That is really fucking neat.
No wiseass (or further) comments, presently.
 
 
Loomis
11:37 / 17.01.03
After reading the first paragraph with it's reference to "walking sticks" sprouting wings, I suddenly had visions of pensioners taking flight and whizzing all over the city ...
 
 
gotham island fae
16:06 / 17.01.03
Where do I sign up for my tail?
 
 
Cubby
19:01 / 17.01.03
Heard about this on the radio last night.

Wow, the world just so very rocks, doesn't it?
 
 
Elbereth
19:58 / 17.01.03
we have, what is it 3 billion genes in a human DNA strand? with only ten to three percent being "usefull" genes which contribute to how we function the remaining "junk DNA" is probably filled with usefull genetic traits. Most "evolution" is probably just the selecting of different mutations that we have already acquired that have gone dormant in the past waiting for the right time to manifest. it seems like this would be something that people would be expecting. To evolve a trait and have it go dormant until necessary makes much more sense that some other "facts" stated by the dogmatic and ridiculous theory of evolution.
 
 
Lurid Archive
22:35 / 17.01.03
I'm always amazed by the strength of opposition to evolution. Despite being poorly understood, it is one of the better supported bits of science. Its a religion thing, I suppose.

But this is pretty amazing stuff. The point is that traits don't generally go dormant and reappear. I wonder if the fact that insects are genetically simple makes it easier for this to happen? Or is it the short lifespans?
 
 
innercircle
03:08 / 18.01.03
iclones have rights to !
 
 
Elbereth
06:47 / 18.01.03
insects aren't actually that simple genetically speaking ( some are but others are very complex) my guess would be either the short lifespans or its something all species are able to do but it's not visible in all of them because they are not as genetically well known and easy to study. By the way this study was done at Brigham Young University, a notoriously Mormen and creationist/fundamentalist university. It's not always a religion thing.
 
 
Lurid Archive
10:06 / 18.01.03
I meant that the opposition seems to mostly stem from religious objections. Clearly, that doesn't mean religious belief is incompatible with accepting evolution.

Good point about the complexity of insects, Elbereth. I wonder where our sometimes flying friend lies on that scale. Also, I wonder if insects have fairly simple evolutionary pressures that can change overnight - in terms of evolutionary time?
 
 
Elbereth
22:50 / 18.01.03
I found this: http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Evolution/evolution%20segues/insect_evolution.htm
It seems to say that at one time they did evolve very fast indeed. A lot of species do this explosion of species thing with very little fossil record so that we can only guess who evolved from who, and who evolved into and (apparently) back into who. It's a much more confusing and complex process than some people give it credit for.
 
 
Linus Dunce
23:51 / 18.01.03
Ha! Why should the stick insects get all the credit?

Yours sincerely,

A. Dolphin.
 
  
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