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Cricket, Politics, Morality, Zimbabwe

 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:01 / 11.01.03
We're going to go aren't we?

So who's the baddy here? I can't help but wonder what would happen if the English football team announced that it wasn't going to compete in a country with a dodgy human rights record (unlikely considering the unsavoury places it's been in the last few decades), but I'm sure Tony Banks would be leading the charge to make sure that David Beckham wasn't out of pocket from the whole deal.

Or is it the ECC? Why has this issue come up only now, when they have known for years that they would be going to Zimbabwe? Is this mess of their own making and they will have to bite the bullet if they want to make a stand, when cricket lacks the mainstream support of football why should the taxpayer fork out for their mistake?

Or is it the players? Where is morality's place in the modern sporting world? Individually it seems to be secondary to actual ability anyway. But would a cricket game really be that good/bad for Zimbabwe? Is it really Nasser Hussain's place to think about the possible political ramifications of his act?
 
 
Shortfatdyke
10:57 / 11.01.03
If I was in the England cricket team, I wouldn't go.

BUT someone connected with the team (can't remember who, I'm afraid) did point out that he would take the boycott arguement more seriously when there were no English business interests in Zimbabwe.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
11:05 / 11.01.03
It's a toughie, right enough. Myself, I can't see the point to cricket but it is hugely popular around the world. I remember the ecstasy on the streets when India beat Pakistan in a match once. Fireworks, drums, giddy rejoicing, big smiles everywhere.

On the one hand, every individual is responsible for their actions and for having truck with a nation that's an international pariah for whatever reason. And, as captain, Hussain has an extra responsibility to guide his men perhaps. I think he's doing that by making their difficulties over the issue clear and public and asking the fat cats running the whole show to shoulder their responsibilities.

Sporting links with the bigger world can be a force for good in a nation as tightly controlled and insular as Zimbabwe and I can remember encouraging examples such as Jesse Owens putting two fingers to the Nazis racial theories at the Berlin Olympics. And the Brits appeared and competed in the Moscow Olympics despite the US refusing to. Won some medals for once with the competition reduced. Perhaps that played some part in the USSR's incipient perestroika.

I think, in sum, that sport should be capable of being above politics in some sense and that yet the boycott of South Africa for all those years did, I think, throw a big spanner in their works. So it's either above politics or it isn't and since it has often, clearly and recently, not been seen to be above politics, they shouldn't go. I wouldn't.

If they do, they should take Peter Tatchell as chief cheerleader, to encourage brave and direct interaction with Mugabe and his henchmen.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:27 / 11.01.03
Personally, I'd go with a boycott. (Clever cricket pun there, hah! And you thought I knew fuck all about sport...)

I'd ALSO (as Nasser Hussein himself has pointed out) boycott the place not only in sporting events, but in industry & trade.

However, the fact that one bunch of people hasn't done the "right" thing doesn't mean another bunch of people have an excuse for not doing the "right" thing.

Personally, I'd boycott a fuck of a lot of places, but it just ain't gonna happen, is it?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:03 / 14.01.03
They're going. And the Government are telling everyone "It's not our fault!"
 
 
Loomis
19:42 / 25.04.04
I thought I'd resurrect this thread as the situation in Zimbabwe has deteriorated further. This quote is from Wisden, a couple of weeks ago:

The crisis threatening Zimbabwe's cricketing future took a depressing twist late last night when a senior official of the Zimbabwe Cricket Union (ZCU) told reporters that he had sacked up to a dozen white players.

The group understood that they had been given permission by Vince Hogg, the ZCU's chief executive, to miss this weekend's round of domestic matches so that they could try and find a solution to the dispute between players and the board which followed Heath Streak's removal as captain. But Ozias Bvute - the ZCU board member in charge of racial quotas – sent them all messages saying that that he had dismissed them for not turning up to play.


And it hasn't improved since. Those players are still out of the side. At their best Zimbabwe are fairly average anyway (to put it mildly), but they're now a team of amateurs and the situation has descended into farce, with the team being bowled out today by Sri Lanka for 35. Political considerations aside, it's a mocekry of international sport to field a team that is clearly not of international standard.

The situation seems to have improved for the players however, as the Australian cricket board have said that they will not penalize any player who does not feel comfortable participating in their upcoming tour. One player has already opted out and there is talk that maybe some more will, though I'm not sure about that. As far as the govt is concerned, it's the usual story:

Alexander Downer, Australia's foreign minister, has ruled out any federal government intervention in Australia's upcoming cricket tour of Zimbabwe. ... "That's not a matter for the Australian government," he explained. "It's a matter for the cricketers themselves to make their own judgment."
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
20:22 / 25.04.04
IIUC, the international cricketing authority (ICA?)'s rules are very strict. Teams can only pull out of games if there is a clear danger to the lives of the team, death threats etc. If they pull out for any other reason they get fined and the MCC has said that they can't afford to play whatever kind of fine that would be.
 
 
Loomis
11:38 / 27.04.04
It looks like the ICC may be changing their mind given the poor results on the field ...

Ever since the sacking of 15 white Zimbabwean cricketers – including the captain Heath Streak – the ICC has been concerned about the devaluing of international cricket. If yesterday's humiliating result is compounded by a farcical first Test in Harare next week, the clamour for their removal will grow ever louder.

Meanwhile, the escalating crisis in Zimbabwe cricket is something of a deus ex machine for the England & Wales Cricket Board, which had been bracing itself for an inevitable backlash, whatever the outcome of their deliberations. To tour would have flown in the face of government and public opinion; to stay away would have invited the wrath of the ICC, and might have resulted in a year's suspension from international cricket, the cancellation of next summer's Ashes series and up to £50 million losses.

Instead, the prospects of an England suspension have receded dramatically. Senior sources within the ICC told the Daily Telegraph that it would require the backing of seven of the ten Test-playing nations to implement such a course of action. If England can present a good case for staying away, they are likely to escape punishment.
 
  
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